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amOKchen · 2007-03-08, 06:19

That might be a good idea.

chaz017 · 2007-03-08, 09:18

Might be a good idea indeed. Well, I have no problem with a little heated discussion regarding characters but it's gotten a little hectic indeed. I'll wait to post anything else here until some more relevant argument comes up. Don't want beat with the ban stick like so many others

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Luminion Lancer · 2007-03-08, 09:21

-Indeed, closing this thread (for a while at the very least) would be a very good idea. The title itself should serve as an example since it reads "In the end". But the series isn't over and it certainly hasn't answered any questions that would allow us to come to an agreement. I vote this thread closed and to give the people some time to cool their heads.

reloaded · 2007-03-10, 08:24

I think naruto is better than sasuke not because im a fan of naruto but because of what drives both of them, narutos goal of becoming hokage is a goal that will make naruto get better and better and to continue becoming stronger when he reaches it, sasukes goal of defeating Itachi is making him stronger in the short term (obtained CS2, 3rd tomoe in sharingan eyes and drug related training) but once he does fight Itachi and if he defeats him he doesnt have a purpose left for him to live or a reason for him to become stronger whereas narutos attitude will always allow him to grow more and more powerful.

Naruto will become stronger anyway not JUST becuase the shows called naruto but because of his true enemy, I recon fighting the Kyuubi will be much tougher than fighting Itachi and yes i do think the final fight will be Naruto vs Kyuubi and this fight will not be ended by death god this time round. If naruto wasnt stronger than Sasuke then why would Sasuke have been jealous of him the way he was it was that jealousy that lead to the fight on the hospital rooftop.

Spoiler:

Ahiru77 · 2007-03-13, 14:45

Well ehhh....urrehmmm....O_O"

Well Sasuke does look a little better when he's normal...i saw that on an avatar of a friend of mine....there he just smiled gently XD....and Naruto...well he always smiles but often too wide XD.....well ill think ill go with Reloaded since he/she has alot of reasons why....(but if it were about looks...definetly SASUKE)

Naruto...

crazy cute · 2007-05-17, 07:42

naruto b/c saskue own brother is going after naruto and not saskue and naruto beat gaara and saskue couldn't that tells ya something.

Sasuke_Bateman · 2007-05-17, 07:50

whaaaaaaat ....why is this back up......

this should be closed.

reloaded · 2007-05-17, 11:22

I was surprised to see this thread appear on the first page again myself

ChojinLocke · 2007-05-18, 04:20

Because that is what newbies are looking for in these forums in the first place..

Sometimes not only newbies actually..

CoreyPmc1 · 2007-08-24, 14:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingdarkness

Well I definatley would have said Naruto pre-filler, but the absense of anything but a brief helping of Sasuke has proven to me the creator perhaps cares more for his selfish a$$...They could have pulled something out of their a$$ like some Sasuke training (Oro sending him on a random mission) or scenes with Kabuto or SOMETHING that wouldn't have destroyed anything manga, but they butcher Naruto, Rock Lee, Shino, and various other characters yet somehow Sasuke is above all this...I mean we are what around 70 episodes since we last saw Sasuke (The second most important character in the story) do anything of value? I think it's ashame that he's the only character to escape the filler while every other character has had to endure it...On the surface that tells me the creator finds Sasuke to be better (By far more untouchable than his title character), and honestly to me I think it's sucks to some degree..

I Completely agree

Pervert Sennin · 2007-08-24, 15:52

Hmm and again to take a topic from the death?

Sasuke_Bateman · 2007-08-24, 18:21

They are both crap.

iBeast · 2007-08-24, 18:39

Uchiha Sasuke.

BlackShinobi07 · 2007-08-24, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uchiha_hai

Uchiha Sasuke.

Obviously.

Eidolon Sniper · 2007-08-25, 11:52

Even if I'm a Sasuke fan, I think Naruto would come out on top, since Sasuke wasn't really going after Naruto, he was going after his brother. All the times he felt inferior, it was because he knew he still wasn't strong enough to beat the man who killed their own clan for his own strange reasons. His crazy drive to become stronger is what made him that way; I guess Itachi really drove that fact right into his brain, and Sasuke was like an 8 year old kid or something when he witnessed all that and it became very clear from that day forth that he WILL become stronger and WILL kill Itachi. Sasuke has all the abilities that made people think that he is a genius: the Uchiha trademark jutsu and bloodline limit, his drive to become stronger = trying to surpass his own limits every single day probably while at that too, and if there is one thing that ties him to Naruto, he also had this incredible will to be strong and train himself to death just to get it (think the Wave or something country episode). So this negates the fact that Sasuke has no will to be strong or anything, or is just trying to be strong for the sake of killing his brother; his intentions may be different, but he is like Naruto in that way.

Spoiler:

Naruto for most part, as the main hero of the series, is blessed with traits that most generic shounen manga characters are endowed with: he is a character possessing immense strength coupled with a rather silly attitude yet at the same time also possessing a noble, never say die attitude and a charisma that inspires all people who misunderstood him at first to step back and see the bigger picture rather than the narrow, preconceived ideas they had at first before meeting him. His never say die attitude could be considered both as his best and worst trait; just as Sasuke's insatiable need for power is as well. For one thing, Naruto always charges headlong into a fight and without thinking too; more so if he is overly come with emotion seeing his friends are in grave danger, making him more of a danger to those around him than letting them all alone by themselves. Sasuke's need for power could grant him the power to not become a burden in a fight with his old teammates; but it could also harm or hurt his friends more than he is willing to admit. Anyway, Naruto wanted to be strong so that he could get Sasuke back; it could be seen as a parallel to Sasuke's need to get revenge on Itachi. He doesn't care what other people think

Spoiler:

he just wants Sasuke back.

Spoiler:

Fangirl view:

Naruto, because he would do anything to save Sasuke, would stop him before he kills himself trying to kill Itachi. He would probably beat the living shit out of him, but who cares. Friends always watch out and look out for each other. Then probably Sasuke would save Naruto's life sacrificing himself after finally realizing what a jerk he was to all his friends and after a gazillion panels of emo and angst. Or maybe Itachi would kill his brother, saying that Sasuke was weak till the end, and would probably drive Naruto nuts and unleash the fury of the new 9 tailed demon form he would probably acquire after witnessing Sasuke's death.

What I think really:

Naruto promised Sasuke that he would take him back to Konoha, and that is what he would probably do at the end; I even think that they might even kill themselves at that climactic battle, or one of them dies to give the survivor enough OOMPH to go against whoever the real mastermind and villain of Naruto is. They each have their own strengths and weaknesses, and as for now, whatever Naruto has acquired during his 2 1/2 hiatus would probably shape up to whatever Sasuke has up his kimono sleeve. So saying that Kyuubi is worthless against Sharingan, or the other way around, is still moot. Kyuubi recognized Sasuke's aura = Madara, even more sinister than his own. Naruto gets more easily prone to Kyuubi modes now. And since Sasuke is just stubbornly going after Itachi, he would not be giving his best in their last battle, or would try to stop Naruto from proceeding because of his importance to the Akatsuki, and wouldn't be able to handle a crazed Naruto by then, triggered by something (maybe Pein or some other Akatsuki member mindraeps him to a point that it would now probably release the Kyuubi), or someone (see my crazy prediction below). Naruto would beat Sasuke, hands down, feet down, hair down, or whatever down, or whoever is still alive from the rampage (after and if my crazy prediction below comes true).

Spoiler:

***Or if hell happens, they could just GATTAI.

KyuubiRocks · 2007-08-28, 08:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Rave

Naruto is better than Sasuke once, around the time of the rooftop fight.

Naruto will never be as good as Sasuke again, and by far Sasuke has alot more potential.

Spoiler:

and if Kyuubi is fully released then Naruto would probably die anyway.

In the end Naruto is just a kyuubi brat and Sasuke ish a handsome genius.

Obviously Sasuke is the far better of the 2.

Spoiler:

Spoiler for manga:

Vizard.King · 2007-08-29, 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackShinobi07

Remeber the valley of the end fight. When they collided the rasengan and chidori they canceled each other out. if what your saying is true, than narutos rasengan should have went through sasukes chidori, defeating sasuke, but it didnt.

th CS2 sasuke is like a 2-3 tailed naruto plus:
rasengan-4th
chidori-kakashi
who's stronger?

Weird D · 2007-08-29, 15:02

Naruto for a simple reason : if you remove Kyubi from Naruto (provided he survives), he's still something, he still has his huge chakra capacity and can still use his techniques, he however loses some of his stamina and cannot recover as fast.

Without the abilities granted by the Sharingan, Sasuke is absolutely NOTHING. The Chidori becomes useless, he cannot foresee any movement, and he isn't better than anyone in Genjutsu. Moreover, if Sasuke was ever to lose his precious eyes, he's just whine forever about no longer being able to kill his brother without even TRYING to do it.

That won't ever happen unfortunately, since Kishimoto is number one Sasuke worshipper.

shadowyondaime · 2007-08-29, 15:02

Naruto def he selfish and funny and never gives up and he aint a emo kid and who laughs has a longer life span then a person that doesnt smile, and naruto is one of a kind, Sasuke had a whole clan that were like him.

7thFonon · 2007-08-29, 15:08

Naruto's rasengan wins over chidori. Even though they both have natural talent (Sharingan/Kyuubi), Naruto has way more determination and a "hard work" mentality. Sasuke got his powers handed to him and never worked half as hard as Naruto. So when it comes down to it, the winner of a battle where both are equal, the one who has the most determination to win will come out as the victor.

2007-03-08, 09:21	Link #743
Luminion Lancer Time-diver Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Location is all relative.	... -Indeed, closing this thread (for a while at the very least) would be a very good idea. The title itself should serve as an example since it reads "In the end". But the series isn't over and it certainly hasn't answered any questions that would allow us to come to an agreement. I vote this thread closed and to give the people some time to cool their heads. __________________ -When all else fails, ram them with a force of an 18-wheeler.

2007-03-10, 08:24	Link #744
reloaded skywalker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London	I think naruto is better than sasuke not because im a fan of naruto but because of what drives both of them, narutos goal of becoming hokage is a goal that will make naruto get better and better and to continue becoming stronger when he reaches it, sasukes goal of defeating Itachi is making him stronger in the short term (obtained CS2, 3rd tomoe in sharingan eyes and drug related training) but once he does fight Itachi and if he defeats him he doesnt have a purpose left for him to live or a reason for him to become stronger whereas narutos attitude will always allow him to grow more and more powerful. Naruto will become stronger anyway not JUST becuase the shows called naruto but because of his true enemy, I recon fighting the Kyuubi will be much tougher than fighting Itachi and yes i do think the final fight will be Naruto vs Kyuubi and this fight will not be ended by death god this time round. If naruto wasnt stronger than Sasuke then why would Sasuke have been jealous of him the way he was it was that jealousy that lead to the fight on the hospital rooftop. Spoiler: When naruto went in his four tails state he was able to hold his own against Orochimaru, I dont recon that Sasuke can fully surpress the kyuubis power, i dont think that Sasuke would have held his own against Narutos four tailed state and if you think about it the kyuubi has 9 tails, the 9th tail will probably be the full external release of the kyuubi at the end so i think that naruto has 8 tailed modes so if he can equal orochimaru in just his 4th tailed mode then thats less than half his true potential and thats disregarding his natural elemental abilities aswell.

2007-08-25, 11:52	Link #755
Eidolon Sniper Tsubasa No Kami Artist Join Date: May 2004 Location: Returning to my Place as the QUEEN...XD	Even if I'm a Sasuke fan, I think Naruto would come out on top, since Sasuke wasn't really going after Naruto, he was going after his brother. All the times he felt inferior, it was because he knew he still wasn't strong enough to beat the man who killed their own clan for his own strange reasons. His crazy drive to become stronger is what made him that way; I guess Itachi really drove that fact right into his brain, and Sasuke was like an 8 year old kid or something when he witnessed all that and it became very clear from that day forth that he WILL become stronger and WILL kill Itachi. Sasuke has all the abilities that made people think that he is a genius: the Uchiha trademark jutsu and bloodline limit, his drive to become stronger = trying to surpass his own limits every single day probably while at that too, and if there is one thing that ties him to Naruto, he also had this incredible will to be strong and train himself to death just to get it (think the Wave or something country episode). So this negates the fact that Sasuke has no will to be strong or anything, or is just trying to be strong for the sake of killing his brother; his intentions may be different, but he is like Naruto in that way. Spoiler: Sasuke never really intended to hurt Naruto, or maybe that was Kishimoto's half-assed way of saying that he will have hotter NaruSasu action later. LOL. anyway, during that fight in the Valley of End, he didn't intentionally kill Naruto, for he believes that Naruto would just get seriosuly hurt if he allowed him to interfere with his plan. It was very clear that Naruto has now become more important to him than he is also willing to admit; which is not surprising, since they were alike in a lot of ways. He even acknowledged Naruto's strength in the Chuunin exams; well, there goes your arrogant, emo, WHINEY Sasuke hime. He might be saying that "I didn't kill you just because I didn't feel like killing you" bit when they met each other again after 2 1/2 years as a way of saying to Naruto that he must still stay away from him because he doesn't want him to get hurt because he still had to go after his brother. His intention was only defeating Itachi, he wants his friends out of the way so there'll be no more guilt emo tripping later. Possibly. Or he really just wants to suffer alone because he knew that he was already too dark to be with his Naruto anymore. Naruto for most part, as the main hero of the series, is blessed with traits that most generic shounen manga characters are endowed with: he is a character possessing immense strength coupled with a rather silly attitude yet at the same time also possessing a noble, never say die attitude and a charisma that inspires all people who misunderstood him at first to step back and see the bigger picture rather than the narrow, preconceived ideas they had at first before meeting him. His never say die attitude could be considered both as his best and worst trait; just as Sasuke's insatiable need for power is as well. For one thing, Naruto always charges headlong into a fight and without thinking too; more so if he is overly come with emotion seeing his friends are in grave danger, making him more of a danger to those around him than letting them all alone by themselves. Sasuke's need for power could grant him the power to not become a burden in a fight with his old teammates; but it could also harm or hurt his friends more than he is willing to admit. Anyway, Naruto wanted to be strong so that he could get Sasuke back; it could be seen as a parallel to Sasuke's need to get revenge on Itachi. He doesn't care what other people think Spoiler: (he probably doesn't listen to what Jiraiya says about him and Orochimaru, urmm.. ) he just wants Sasuke back. Spoiler: As Naruto now knows that it was Itachi who was hurting Sasuke, then maybe he would go after him too, in order to stop Sasuke from hurting himself even more. And as we all guessed or would guess already, Sasuke would not hear any of it. AWWWWW. Fangirl view: Naruto, because he would do anything to save Sasuke, would stop him before he kills himself trying to kill Itachi. He would probably beat the living shit out of him, but who cares. Friends always watch out and look out for each other. Then probably Sasuke would save Naruto's life sacrificing himself after finally realizing what a jerk he was to all his friends and after a gazillion panels of emo and angst. Or maybe Itachi would kill his brother, saying that Sasuke was weak till the end, and would probably drive Naruto nuts and unleash the fury of the new 9 tailed demon form he would probably acquire after witnessing Sasuke's death. *What I think really: Naruto promised Sasuke that he would take him back to Konoha, and that is what he would probably do at the end; I even think that they might even kill themselves at that climactic battle, or one of them dies to give the survivor enough OOMPH to go against whoever the real mastermind and villain of Naruto is. They each have their own strengths and weaknesses, and as for now, whatever Naruto has acquired during his 2 1/2 hiatus would probably shape up to whatever Sasuke has up his kimono sleeve. So saying that Kyuubi is worthless against Sharingan, or the other way around, is still moot. Kyuubi recognized Sasuke's aura = Madara, even more sinister than his own. Naruto gets more easily prone to Kyuubi modes now. And since Sasuke is just stubbornly going after Itachi, he would not be giving his best in their last battle, or would try to stop Naruto from proceeding because of his importance to the Akatsuki, and wouldn't be able to handle a crazed Naruto by then, triggered by something (maybe Pein or some other Akatsuki member mindraeps him to a point that it would now probably release the Kyuubi), or someone (see my crazy prediction below). Naruto would beat Sasuke, hands down, feet down, hair down, or whatever down, or whoever is still alive from the rampage (after and if my crazy prediction below comes true). Spoiler: Naruto was still, in the beginning of Shippuuden anyway, not comfortable and adept with his Oodama Rasengan; he would probably master it as soon as the series progresses (he now has the Rasen Shuriken or whatever it's called). The Seal Jiraiya put to counter Orochimaru's seal, or maybe the Yondaime's seal, is already weakening, and Jiraiya is afraid that the Kyuubi is poisoning Naruto more and more every single day, as he loses himself to him; it would definitely increase Naruto's power in a VERY big way, and could unleash a plethora of new skills, or become even more destructive and Naruto would most likely be the one saved by Sasuke if it happens and could get killed by it. **Or if hell happens, they could just GATTAI. __________________ Ethereal Exiled Queen. NATCH~~~!!!

2007-03-08, 06:19	Link #741
amOKchen duel me Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 39	That might be a good idea.

2007-03-08, 09:18	Link #742
chaz017 Senior Member...ish Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: CA Age: 39	Might be a good idea indeed. Well, I have no problem with a little heated discussion regarding characters but it's gotten a little hectic indeed. I'll wait to post anything else here until some more relevant argument comes up. Don't want beat with the ban stick like so many others .

2007-03-13, 14:45	Link #745
Ahiru77 あひる Join Date: Feb 2007	Well ehhh....urrehmmm....O_O" Well Sasuke does look a little better when he's normal...i saw that on an avatar of a friend of mine....there he just smiled gently XD....and Naruto...well he always smiles but often too wide XD.....well ill think ill go with Reloaded since he/she has alot of reasons why....(but if it were about looks...definetly SASUKE) Naruto...

2007-05-17, 07:42	Link #746
crazy cute crazy cute Join Date: May 2007 Location: dreamland Age: 32	naruto b/c saskue own brother is going after naruto and not saskue and naruto beat gaara and saskue couldn't that tells ya something.

2007-05-17, 07:50	Link #747
Sasuke_Bateman No Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: England	whaaaaaaat ....why is this back up...... this should be closed.

2007-05-17, 11:22	Link #748
reloaded skywalker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London	I was surprised to see this thread appear on the first page again myself

2007-05-18, 04:20	Link #749
ChojinLocke Year 2 Author Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 18	Because that is what newbies are looking for in these forums in the first place.. Sometimes not only newbies actually..

2007-08-24, 15:52	Link #751
Pervert Sennin Pervert Sennin Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Netherlands Age: 34	Hmm and again to take a topic from the death?

2007-08-24, 18:21	Link #752
Sasuke_Bateman No Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: England	They are both crap.

2007-08-24, 18:39	Link #753
iBeast Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006	Uchiha Sasuke.

2007-08-29, 15:02	Link #758
Weird D Just existing... Join Date: Aug 2007	Naruto for a simple reason : if you remove Kyubi from Naruto (provided he survives), he's still something, he still has his huge chakra capacity and can still use his techniques, he however loses some of his stamina and cannot recover as fast. Without the abilities granted by the Sharingan, Sasuke is absolutely NOTHING. The Chidori becomes useless, he cannot foresee any movement, and he isn't better than anyone in Genjutsu. Moreover, if Sasuke was ever to lose his precious eyes, he's just whine forever about no longer being able to kill his brother without even TRYING to do it. That won't ever happen unfortunately, since Kishimoto is number one Sasuke worshipper.

2007-08-29, 15:02	Link #759
shadowyondaime Sponsor: Naughty Konoha! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ladies bathroom Age: 33	Naruto def he selfish and funny and never gives up and he aint a emo kid and who laughs has a longer life span then a person that doesnt smile, and naruto is one of a kind, Sasuke had a whole clan that were like him.

2007-08-29, 15:08	Link #760
7thFonon seventh Join Date: Dec 2006	Naruto's rasengan wins over chidori. Even though they both have natural talent (Sharingan/Kyuubi), Naruto has way more determination and a "hard work" mentality. Sasuke got his powers handed to him and never worked half as hard as Naruto. So when it comes down to it, the winner of a battle where both are equal, the one who has the most determination to win will come out as the victor.