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so no, they don't like Iran any more then the Arabs do.
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2011-12-10, 03:41 | Link #18142 |
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Hospital fire kills at least 84 in eastern India
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7B80EH20111209
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Improvised guns and ammunition would require people going back to musket quality guns, not something i'm particularly worried about. Also, if you looked at my plan, the public isn't disarmed first, the supply of weapons is eliminated first, while the supply of weapons is being eliminated, the police continue to eliminate criminal's weapons (as they already currently do), eventually, with no new guns coming in, then the only guns left will be those still held by citizens. Quote:
Absolutely true. Japan doesn't have guns either, I'd guess. Nor does China. |
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2011-12-10, 12:38 | Link #18148 | |
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2011-12-10, 12:38 | Link #18149 |
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The UK and Japan are islands....they don't have borders with anybody besides the sea. The only land border the UK has is with Ireland at Northern Ireland.
The China example doesn't follow because it was totalitarian. As for removing the guns via getting the manufacturing first? Well that would hurt a bunch of political districts economically, since I doubt the remaining gun industry can get by on just military and police contracts alone. Especially with international competition like Glock (Austria) and Buretta (Italy). (Browning, Barret, Ruger, Smith & Wesson, Winchester (are now made in Belgium and Utah by other companies), Kel-Tec, and Colt are just some examples.)
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2011-12-10, 12:48 | Link #18150 | |
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As for the gun industry, companies involved with defense contracting can always outsource their activities, which is something they're already doing. Raytheon has plenty of activities outside of the US, for instance, even in Saudi Arabia. They could also get into other industries in order to spread the risk of their business and have some kind of insurance if they were to lose civilian contracts within the US. |
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2011-12-10, 13:03 | Link #18151 | |
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The largest obstacle against further integration is the lack of mobility of the people in Europe. Language, legislative, and social barriers prevent people form taking up work and residence in other member states easily. It's slowly changing, but it's still mostly restricted to the highly educated who work for international corporations. The US never had this problem. |
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2011-12-10, 13:38 | Link #18152 |
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England needs to get out of the EU before it causes more resentment. That would be more gentleman-like than fucking over the EU when it's trying to do the only sensible thing as far as keeping itself alive goes.
English interests are fine by me and a great majority of the English public are euroskeptics anyway. Just get out already.
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2011-12-10, 13:41 | Link #18153 |
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Nope..... the island countries mentioned above have it real good these days.
The Southwest U.S./border mexican states is riddled with sophisticated tunnels to transport illegal substance and arms. and what's crazy is that federal agents like ATF were "encouraging" honest American gun dealers to arm criminals down south... crazy indeed!!! Last edited by flying ^; 2011-12-10 at 14:01. |
2011-12-10, 14:15 | Link #18154 | |
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Keep the trade agreements and easy travel/immigration. No need to throw out the baby with the bath water. |
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2011-12-10, 14:38 | Link #18156 | |||
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The illegal arms trade can only exist because of the presence of the legal arms trade. Once a gun is sold legally, it can no longer be kept track of. Likewise, once a dealer is dealing in thousands of legal arms, it's not so hard for him to sell some illegal guns on the side. It's very difficult to eliminate something like drugs on the supply side, because any piece of land can be used to grow it. For guns, you need advanced factory equipment, that only exists in a few hundred locations worldwide. Very easy to keep track of and regulate. Now I can admit, there may be an ethical argument regarding gun control, but there are no practical issues with it, so long as the elimination is near total. In Britain and Ireland, there are still people who can legally own guns. These are mostly farmers and people with hunting and game licenses, and they're mostly rifles and shotguns. |
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2011-12-10, 14:47 | Link #18158 |
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I don't think the UK wants to sink the whole European project, the UK has received special treatment in the past, and I see nothing wrong with it. It's a large enough country to merit it if it's required, and I think it's better for them to be half in, then totally out.
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2011-12-10, 16:41 | Link #18159 |
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If the UK does get out, I think all such treaties should be renegotiated, with the understanding that it would be a negotiation between foreign powers, rather than a union deciding internal rules for itself.
It might not change much - the EU is for free trade and all, anyway. But it's the principle of the thing. |
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What really annoyed me with Britain all the time were their constant attempts to have the cake and eat it. Paying just a minimal share compared to their size. Opting out of reasonable treaties like Schengen (so much for all this "free market" mantra - Britain is all about protectionism when you look closely). Always trying to prop up those countries who wanted their pseudo-veto bribed away. And finally, using the Euro crisis to get a veto blank cheque for anything financial in the future. This isn't the bazaar of constantinople here. I need to giggle at the "unelected bureaucrat" meme though. It's very popular in the anglosphere media, but it's BS. They're anointed by people who have democratically been elected into office. Very much like ministers are assigned in other countries, too. Those unelected bureaucrats. Quote:
Nah, the Euro won't sink. In the end, when push comes to shove, the ECB will just take the easy US way out: Print more Euros and call it "quantitative easing". That was the whole point of the summit (and I'm surprised that this isn't understood by most English news sources): Germany demanded that efforts were be made to make sure that opening the ECB coffers would NOT result in wild spending in Club Med et cetera. So, controlled financial union against relaxation on the ECB valve. Example: Do you remember how George Soros was railing like mad against Germany, and how they were wrecking the Euro, and how everything would be going to hell? He just recently bought Euro bonds for 2 billion. Go figure. |
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