Episode 88 Discussion Thread

[hi no ken Jebus]

Spoiler:

-Ririn makes it back to urahara's to get help for ichigo who is already there
-the four shinigami regroup and head to the bount hideout
-kariya tells to the glasses guy to take care of the intruders
-the kid renji saved is in critical condition, meanwhile urahara asks ichigo if he can win without doing bankai
-in SS, yamamoto asks Byakuya to search for info about the bount and tells him there might be a traitor among them
-ichigo and co depart to join up with the shinigami who left ahead of them
-the glasses guy takes care of the shinigami just as ichigo and co are about to enter
-episode ends with uryuu trying to use his power and failing then nemu appears before him
-shinigami cup was kind of lame this week

Please do not discuss anything past episode 88, or else you risk a ban. Don't even post future episode titles. Even tags are no defense.

[Omniscient]

Episode 88 Screencaps and Summary

Spoiler:

Meh, first half of the episode was unimportant talk/everyone regrouping and the fight in the second half wasn't that exciting. Rather boring episode for me.

[Hitsugaya_OWNS]

it came out already?

[fizzmaister]

Originally Posted by Hitsugaya_OWNS

it came out already?

the RAW did.

[Guido]

What is the highlight for me will be the exchange meeting...

Spoiler:

between Nemu and Ishida that ends the episode in a cliffhanger before she starts to deliver the errand that Mayuri ordered her to settle with the Quincy boy.

[Ddadain]

XD Looking good so far

[astrallionheart]

Seemed like a total filler, there was very little plot progression, nor the trademark fighting. The only actual progression it seemed occured in the last scene between Ishida and Nemu. The animation for the first half of the episode was also pretty rock bottom. Seems like a "we took a break this week" ep.

[physics223]

If some things happen in the next episode or two, I believe Bleach can become great again.

[Deathkillz]

it got very boring...dragging-on-the-floor-using-the-face-over-glass-type of boring -__- only good bit in this eps was seeing Nemu

[physics223]

Yes, and like you, I love Nemu.

[Thewanderer]

Originally Posted by physics223

If some things happen in the next episode or two, I believe Bleach can become great again.

That guy talks like these episodes aren't even canon The story can't move forward? WTF? The Bound arc is a story...

Anyway Physics, I hope you're not gitting your hopes up too high. IMO, Ishida and Nemu aren't exactly on perfect terms, even though Nemu gave him the antidote to Mayuri's poison. I mean Ishida tried to kill her Captain/father... At the least, Nemu will initiate a fight to get it out of her system.

And if you were looking for romance, there was Ishida/Yoshino thing, which might be the closest thing you'll get to a romance considering Bleach's shonen status. Though it is possible, and I hope something happens between those two as well.

[physics223]

I expected that much from the filler-defender. Canon is defined to be a criterion or standard of judgment. The manga is a good canon when judging the anime. The story doesn't move forward because it's roundabout. What, seriously, has changed within the characters? It's simply addition and subtraction, basic operations that Kubo has mastered that has slowly become a chore to watch. With this occurrence, there may be a development long-needed by this slowly degrading and decadent series (so far).

It's a matter of perspective, but I think manga-based episodes are better than anime-original episodes (filler). With some character development to pepper the common stagnation of characters found in a lot of shounen (other than Adachi, I guess), some development between Nemu and Ishida will be very welcome.

[Thewanderer]

Originally Posted by physics223

I expected that much from the filler-defender. Canon is defined to be a criterion or standard of judgment. The manga is a good canon when judging the anime. The story doesn't move forward because it's roundabout. What, seriously, has changed within the characters? It's simply addition and subtraction, basic operations that Kubo has mastered that has slowly become a chore to watch. With this occurrence, there may be a development long-needed by this slowly degrading and decadent series (so far).

It's a matter of perspective, but I think manga-based episodes are better than anime-original episodes (filler). With some character development to pepper the common stagnation of characters found in a lot of shounen (other than Adachi, I guess), some development between Nemu and Ishida will be very welcome.

Dude, I was making one simple comment before the rest of my post. Why get so hostile? You're saying it like I'm the only one that don't discriminate episodes. If aanyone should be complaining, it's me because you ppl are ruining my experience with this show. No offense.

And plenty could happen in "filler" between manga arcs. Say if a character appeared in the 2nd manga arc with a haircut, in the "filler" they could show that character getting the haircut. As long as there's unexplained events that supposed to have happened when the filler arc is happening, the filler arc can explain them. This is the case for Ichigo's lack of Bankai at the begining of the Modsoul arc(which the manga didn't explain).

You probably think I'm nothing but a filler-hugging animetard, but I just want to watch, discuss, and enjoy each episode equally. You'd be suprised, but I DO like most manga episodes better than the anime episodes. But there are some manga episodes I dislike and some anime episodes I like.

[Cooldude]

Originally Posted by Thewanderer

That guy talks like these episodes aren't even canon The story can't move forward? WTF? The Bound arc is a story...

Anyway Physics, I hope you're not gitting your hopes up too high. IMO, Ishida and Nemu aren't exactly on perfect terms, even though Nemu gave him the antidote to Mayuri's poison. I mean Ishida tried to kill her Captain/father... At the least, Nemu will initiate a fight to get it out of her system.

And if you were looking for romance, there was Ishida/Yoshino thing, which might be the closest thing you'll get to a romance considering Bleach's shonen status. Though it is possible, and I hope something happens between those two as well.

Yes, Bount arc is a story, but a boring, flawed and poorly contructed story

The episodes nowadays are just dragging on and on without much actually happening, it has the feeling that they're trying to waste as much time as possible just to fill in the 22 minutes. The pacing of each episode is so slow, so un-bleach like that watching paint dry is actually more entertaining.

The animation's quality has declined so much that it makes you think they're saving up their budget for the real stuff. Characters doing out-of-character stuff and saying out-of-character lines, actually feel sorry for the seiyuu who have to put up with some of the lines, well at least they get paid for it.

Some people defend fillers for the sake of being different, but really, whether it's a filler or not, it's a fact that the current arc is crap.

I only watch on due to my loyalty to Bleach, but it doesn't take away the fact that the past 20 episodes have been mostly trash.

[Varis]

Is it just me or can Gesells special abilities only work in the shade of that light? Seems pretty situational. Sounds like he will be just keeping the good guys entertained until they figure out where he is and to stay away from the shade.

Also, I know Matsumoto is well endowed... but come on.. when she got roped, her rack increased to gigantic size... wth... do they plan on having those eyes orbit her chest?

I don't know about the Ishida x Nemu hype. There was some chemistry or at least a level of respect going on in soul society but that was largely the result of the circumstances. She was sent to deliver something and comming from the mad, messed up scientist, it will be something bad. At best she will hold back and allow Ishida to defeat her in order to have an excuse to fail her mission. So even if something might happen given time, I doubt she will end up on all 4's anytime soon.

Silent waters run deep eh... to me it looks more like she is a extremely introverted and submissive "individual" that may or may not have a soul... She was created and raised by a very cruel person after all. I don't know how far she take a relationship even if she wanted to.

[Thewanderer]

Originally Posted by Cooldude

Yes, Bount arc is a story, but a boring, flawed and poorly contructed story

The episodes nowadays are just dragging on and on without much actually happening, it has the feeling that they're trying to waste as much time as possible just to fill in the 22 minutes. The pacing of each episode is so slow, so un-bleach like that watching paint dry is actually more entertaining.

The animation's quality has declined so much that it makes you think they're saving up their budget for the real stuff. Characters doing out-of-character stuff and saying out-of-character lines, actually feel sorry for the seiyuu who have to put up with some of the lines, well at least they get paid for it.

Some people defend fillers for the sake of being different, but really, whether it's a filler or not, it's a fact that the current arc is crap.

I only watch on due to my loyalty to Bleach, but it doesn't take away the fact that the past 20 episodes have been mostly trash.

Now this is some constructive criticism. Though the animation has gotten a lot better recently, and there's a few cool things in this arc.

And no, I'm not one who defends anything for the sake of being different. I just don't understand how normal episodes that so happen to be original to the anime gets almost everyone pissed off, even as far as to try to disrupt the discussions about the episodes. Most of them do it just for the sole fact that the episodes aren't in the manga, which is IMO, flawed logic.



Anyway, I just watched the ep. The Bound with glasses is by far the most annoying... I hope he dies first. They seem to be entering the final battle, so it'll probably happen soon. Another clue is that...

Spoiler:

Ichigo told Urahara that he can feel his Bankai comming back.

The scene with Ririn and Ichigo was pretty cute. She's almost like another little sister to him. Renji was a tard in this ep, getting all shook up over the injured kid(though I can understand). Matsumoto is getting cooler in my eyes now that she's using her abilities more often. Overall I think this episode is one of the better episodes in this arc.

[Raihen]

About that Mister Four-Eyes(by Kon-sama ^^') he probably use Shadow to cast "spells". About Ichigo and Urahara I though he was going to say about his "Hollow Side", but nope :<

[Shunsui]

This arc needs more me.

Anyway, dork/total nerd Bounto is definetly the least cool character in the entire running of Bleach. He needs to go jump off a cliff or something. Not only does he have a mehtastic personality, but he's a wuss, even compared to the other Bounto. At least the other ones are in the general area when their dolls are fighting, dork Bounto hides in a little secluded room.

[Psychoray]

"Dork bounto"

LOL!

[physics223]

Originally Posted by Thewanderer

Dude, I was making one simple comment before the rest of my post. Why get so hostile? You're saying it like I'm the only one that don't discriminate episodes. If aanyone should be complaining, it's me because you ppl are ruining my experience with this show. No offense.

This was hostile.

Originally Posted by Thewanderer

That guy talks like these episodes aren't even canon The story can't move forward? WTF? The Bound arc is a story...

It's not like I said something against you before that. I was simply expressing an opinion, and that wasn't being hostile to you.

Originally Posted by Thewanderer

And plenty could happen in "filler" between manga arcs. Say if a character appeared in the 2nd manga arc with a haircut, in the "filler" they could show that character getting the haircut. As long as there's unexplained events that supposed to have happened when the filler arc is happening, the filler arc can explain them. This is the case for Ichigo's lack of Bankai at the begining of the Modsoul arc(which the manga didn't explain).

You probably think I'm nothing but a filler-hugging animetard, but I just want to watch, discuss, and enjoy each episode equally. You'd be suprised, but I DO like most manga episodes better than the anime episodes. But there are some manga episodes I dislike and some anime episodes I like.

I was aiming for discussion with that take of mine. Must you denigrate it with a sharp comment? I honestly didn't start the hostilities. You did.