2010-04-16, 14:39 | Link #2381 | |
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I assume barrier jackets use magic to channel at least some of the kinetic impact force off elsewhere so it it doesn't kill you, but you can still be knocked around. |
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2010-05-07, 02:50 | Link #2382 | |
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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Spell Rank = Energy consumed (and eventually launch) Mage Rank = Rank based out of trial test MAGE RANK We only have seen the B-rank trial test so far, so we don't know yet. But supposedly, the mage rank doesn't indicate how MASSIVE their mana is, but HOW EFFICIENT a mage use their mana and overall skill. We have seen Caro, a super summoner (ten years old as of StrikerS start) that destined to bear the task to handle Silver Dragon (lil Fried, yeah). What rank she is? C+, yeah. All about skill, I guess. Here's Subaru, a girl with high strength and defense, super speed, and rather high firepower, and still in B-rank? Because she still unable to use her advantage effectively. Then we saw Erio. His spell aren't as devastate compared to either Teana or Subaru (same rank), but he handles anything purely by judgement and speed. As with Teana, she doesn't have any special traits, just hard work to cope with everyone, but her overall skill surpass all the specialist, not to mention her sharp wit of course. However, there also lies confusion with my statement above, as Lutecia, 'somewhat illegal' super-summoner are S-rank, and actually hasn't any self-defense abilities aside massive number of insect summon (Caro have decent offensive spells and defensive one), what factor determining "Enemy's rank" is rather vague. Same goes for Hayate, nuke-throwing mage without a shield and close combat ability at all, are SS rank (and highest rank of all living mages presumably). Maybe there's a possibility that raw mana output is, indeed, needed in the subsequent test. And (Professor) Yuuno Scrya, somewhat forgotten boy armed with nothing, hasn't offensive spell whatsoever (creative usage of bindings is exception), and usually act as backup unit. AMAZED us with his borderline Memetic shield strength, which took SURPRISE Starlight Breaker or THREE spell or the same scale (and everything was only on side material, not on TV Series/DVD). For the time being, he's A rank (Yes, A rank with 1 or 2 points of firepower out of 10 points scale) I agree with Kaijo that actually, mage rank is more vague than everything. SPELL RANK As with Spell rank, it's directly in context of Power x Complexity. Starlight Breaker usually assumed as SS-rank, it requires massive amount of mana, which is drained from previous spell/ cartridge boosted even for Nanoha. As with Variable Barret, it's Complexity gets in the way, Teana had to force herself for doing so on the first virtual battle. To note that Vice's rank isn't lower than Teana, actually he's higher, at B+, but it was his Mana that actually lower than Teana (to be more ridiculous, half of her). And he easily do it because of pure skill. Sniper, indeed. |
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2010-05-07, 02:56 | Link #2383 | |
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At episode 5 of StrikerS, the train stated to be moving at 70 unit, whatever is that means |
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2010-05-07, 02:57 | Link #2384 | |
Adeptus Animus
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Not to mention that there was little testing done to measure Nanoha and Fate's AAA-ranks. |
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2010-05-07, 03:10 | Link #2385 | |
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2. Producing a Linker core that synchronizing with the owner's Linker Core (why Arf turned into a little brat as of StrikerS is to counter this effect) 3. Of course, since Familiar are created for specific purpose (as with Linith, to make Fate strong enough) 4. ...... (poor Linith) 5. Profit! (ENFORCER FATE T. HARLOWN, DAMMIT!!!!!) |
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2010-05-07, 03:28 | Link #2386 | |
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IS is specialized magic than occurs on a combat cyborg naturally, and differs ACCORDING TO THE FRAME (yeah, not genes). Subaru and Ginga (and actually, Nouve too) had Wing Road thanks to Type Zero Frame (and Nouve IS created using Subaru as prototype model), and none said Quint actually used Wing road before. Nouve's Airliner actually reverse-engineered version of Subaru's wing road based on her combat data. So, Quint DOESN'T have Wing road, (for now, except there are proof or statements in future) |
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2010-05-07, 03:57 | Link #2388 | ||
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2010-05-07, 04:32 | Link #2389 |
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Well, the part about Hayate only notes a lack of shielding and close combat, not her efficiency in mana usage. To that I'll add that Hayate has never been confirmed to lack shields, only close combat. And close combat is a non-factor in mage rank.
The tests are only one way to get ranks. Nanoha and Fate were slapped with AAA-ranks with only raw combat data and powerlevel scans. I'm still wondering where you are getting all this info though. Especially the part about combat cyborgs. |
2010-05-07, 10:05 | Link #2390 | |
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It would be like you watching the Olympics and seeing the time that 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place runners came in. Then you watch me run on a normal day, and go "Wow, you run like an Olympic Silver medalist." I haven't won any medals, and I'd actually need to compete to see for sure, but based on your experience, you can judge how fast and how well I run and compare it to what you've seen. |
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2010-05-08, 02:14 | Link #2391 | |
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And Numbers slotted forwards in manga as "AA area of speciality, A overall" yet they still were officially B/C... Tests and estimate are different things.
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2010-05-08, 20:39 | Link #2392 |
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All this mentioning of ranks and stuff suddenly just served as a catalyst for something when I was reading the analysis.
Besides the various types of magic: Circle (Mid-Childan), Triangle (Belkan), Summoning (Square)...I know I mentioned this in one of my posts somewhere in the Nanoha section in one of the threads...fanfiction if I'm not mistaken, a character of mine has a different but similar interpretation of the whole ranking method, just described differently since I created a magic type of my own. I thought back to one of the episodes of StrikerS and what stood out for me is when Signum mentions that Subaru and Teana (I think she also mentioned Teana) somehow utilized and combined the elements from Mid-Childan and Belkan and somehow made their own style. I decided to use that analysis to make my own magic type with that very same concept. @Nanya01: When you mean Sound Stage...are you referring to Sound Stage X? |
2010-05-08, 23:41 | Link #2395 |
Random Translator
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StrikerS SS04
Track 22: Hayate: I guess we can’t call the newbies, newbies any more. Alto: Yeah, if they keep that up, they can clear the A rank exams/tests without any problems. Hayate: A rank? No, well other than Caro, I don’t think anyone will be reaching A rank. Alto: Huh? Shamal: The three of them will be skipping to the AA combat rank test, that’s what Nanoha and Vita are training them for. Hayate: Caro will be a composite/artificial/synthesized A-ranker but she’ll have a plus tacked on because of her specialty/experience. Alto: Oh, I see. Hayate: But keep this a secret from them, okay? Alto: Okay!
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2010-05-18, 05:30 | Link #2400 |
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Not going to bother digging through the 121 pages here because we all know how much DRAMA took place in the past, so i might as well ask straight out anyway.
question is on devices. their weight, to be precise. for example, Cross Mirage has a Two-Hand mode, but when the second one is not in use, is its weight added to the original body, making it twice the weight of one gun, or is it stored in a pseudohammerspace(or whatever the equivalent is in nanoverse. that'll be another story, though i remember it being discussed here once) and thus the weight is negligible?
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