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Old 2007-08-25, 05:10   Link #1
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[Manga] Whirlpool

Just a thought as i read through the latest chapter. We found out that Naruto's mother (Uzumaki Kushina) was from the "former" whirlpool country.

obviously, whirlpool was an old water country, that possibly went under a revolution, or was destroyed in some other manner. I theorize that the it transformed into the rain country. and that the internal war going on there right now is between the newer country, and the remnants of the whirlpool country.

just to throw it out there, if i am lucky enough to be right, we do know that pain is leading one faction, perhaps he is a remnant of the whirlpool country? the timing with the introduction of this past country, and jiraiya's trip to pain, is too close to be a coincidence really, at least in my mind.

I apologize if there is already a similar thread, i didnt find one....
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Old 2007-08-25, 06:10   Link #2
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Well.. if the whirlpool was destroyed, it was very likely that the remaining ninja joined different villages.

Maybe Pain wants to take revenge against the world, for destruction of his village or wants to change the world, for a more peaceful one.

Strange that Naruto´s mom behaves like him, when she must have suffered much for the destruction of her village. The idea of a Fourth´s gaiden becomes more interesting.
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Old 2007-08-25, 06:18   Link #3
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I too doubt that it's coincidence, considering the style of the Naruto series I would be surprised if the "Whirlpool" relation didn't become a relevant point. The Whirlpool having some relation to the Rain village, and in turn Pein, seems the most likely possibility. Pein leading the remnants of the Whirlpool, as you mentioned, seems perfectly possible.
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Old 2007-08-25, 06:35   Link #4
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but hidden rain is not a new village.it is said that they were always in some kind of war...
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Old 2007-08-25, 12:59   Link #5
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Some more info on Naruto's parent's names:

Naruto's father:
- 波風ミナト
- Namikaze Minato
- Wave Wind Minato
- 波風湊
- Could be translated as: Gathering Torrent (of water)

Naruto's mother:
- うずまきクシナ
- Uzumaki Kushina
- Whirlpool Nine Levels
- 渦巻九品
- Could be translated as: Whirlpool (of the) Ninth Level
Interesting that at that Naruto was born the same time as the Nine attack the village.

Another poster theorize and i agree that the Nine-tail was originally seal inside Kushina. When she die in child birth, the nine tail was release. Which would make the Nine-tail the jinnruki for the Whirl-pool country.

Anyone else think the Nine-tail had something to do with the destruction of the Whirlpool country.
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Old 2007-08-25, 13:00   Link #6
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It's highly possible that the lady with Pein is Naruto's Mother just because of the village she's in right now. I don't think it's a coincidence that Pein and Naruto look alike. I'm sure they're related somehow.
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Old 2007-08-25, 13:07   Link #7
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It's highly possible that the lady with Pein is Naruto's Mother just because of the village she's in right now. I don't think it's a coincidence that Pein and Naruto look alike. I'm sure they're related somehow.
it is impossible.that woman have blue hair.narutos mother have red.









omg. i am sory, it turned to blue cuz she is evil now right?
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Old 2007-08-25, 14:02   Link #8
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it is impossible.that woman have blue hair.narutos mother have red.









omg. i am sory, it turned to blue cuz she is evil now right?
Or she could have dyed it.
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Old 2007-08-25, 14:24   Link #9
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Or she could have dyed it.
you said it to be funny right?
oh she used the same hair dyer same as AL.
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Old 2007-08-25, 16:52   Link #10
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That's a good point. A reference to the former Whirlpool Country, just after the revelation of the civil wars in Mist, seems like too much to be a coincidence, especially considering the possible family connections with Pein. My theory is that Pein is Kushina's brother, and though she left to be in Konoha with Minato he stayed behind and became involved in the wars.
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Old 2007-08-25, 17:19   Link #11
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I think AL being naruto's uncle would be cool...
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Old 2007-08-25, 17:35   Link #12
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but hidden rain is not a new village.it is said that they were always in some kind of war...
we really dont know how old it is at all tho, or when the whirlpool country was destroyed.It could have been destroyed years before naruto's birth, and his mother went to konoha where she met the fourth.

I also think/hope that pain is naruto's uncle. So say while kushina went to konoha, pain decided to fight the village of mist (as someone else here said i think...) and recreate the whirlpool county or something.

my point in all this lol, is that the two faction could have been fighting for 20 or so years, which would definatly give anyone license to say they are always at war.
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Old 2007-08-25, 18:00   Link #13
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i dont buy the uncle thing. there isnt any clue about it..also the similarity between pain and naruto is much more then pein and 4th.
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Old 2007-08-25, 18:10   Link #14
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i dont buy the uncle thing. there isnt any clue about it..also the similarity between pain and naruto is much more then pein and 4th.

muahahaha!!! pain is the son of naruto!!! lol, jk
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Old 2007-08-25, 22:42   Link #15
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muahahaha!!! pain is the son of naruto!!! lol, jk
I think you meant naruto is the son of pein, but if not...an interesting theory. I dunno about babies kickin out babies while still in the womb, but I guess anything's possible.

I'm more of the belief that Pein is Naruto's brother or half-brother. Born before Kushina left the whirlpool country and met Minato, he stayed behind to help attempt the restoration of his home country, but lost his way and now only seeks power and fame, plus lots of money.
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Old 2007-08-25, 22:57   Link #16
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it is impossible.that woman have blue hair.narutos mother have red.









omg. i am sory, it turned to blue cuz she is evil now right?
Ummmm.... where does it say or show that Narutos mother had Red hair????
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Old 2007-08-25, 23:02   Link #17
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Ummmm.... where does it say or show that Narutos mother had Red hair????
Jiraiya said that when he was explaining who Kushina was.
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Old 2007-08-25, 23:59   Link #18
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I think you meant naruto is the son of pein, but if not...an interesting theory. I dunno about babies kickin out babies while still in the womb, but I guess anything's possible.

I'm more of the belief that Pein is Naruto's brother or half-brother. Born before Kushina left the whirlpool country and met Minato, he stayed behind to help attempt the restoration of his home country, but lost his way and now only seeks power and fame, plus lots of money.

I was only joking around lol.
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Old 2007-08-26, 00:23   Link #19
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I was only joking around lol.
Yeah, I know...I just had to do it because I'm an always-gotta-be-right, screw-everyone-else bastard like that
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Old 2007-08-26, 18:13   Link #20
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Uncles, brothers...where do you guys get all these theories from?
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