2008-09-08, 18:31 | Link #2242 | |
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ama_vs_mccain/ Even with the bump, he is still behind in some of the background states and there is no toss up states, Obama/Biden would still win but by a slim margin
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2008-09-08, 19:06 | Link #2243 | |
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Never be sure until the race is over. It seems Palin is McCain's Teddy. |
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2008-09-08, 19:17 | Link #2244 | |
Kuu-chan is hungry
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Anyway, popular vote is meaningless unless you have a huge % lead. Election of 2000 showed us that. |
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2008-09-08, 19:23 | Link #2245 | |
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... my god, they both have Mc in their name... Someone better tell McCain that he is going to be assassinated... |
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2008-09-08, 19:42 | Link #2246 | |
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I don't hate McCain, but I feel that he wouldn't complete his term if he gets elected. |
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2008-09-08, 19:44 | Link #2247 |
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Yep, and it seems like that this Election will be like the one in 2000. I know that all the Republicans is all hyped up about Palin but until we know about her views about the issues in her debate, it is just hyped beside the contest is between Obama and McCain not Obama and Palin.
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2008-09-08, 20:39 | Link #2248 |
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The basic election calculus still favors Obama (and I doubt this post-election bump will last any longer than Obama's did.)
Look at the state-by-state breakdown: Iowa, a tight race last election which went to Bush, is solidly Democratic. North Dakota, Montana, Virginia, and Indiana, all of which which were solidly Republican to one degree or another last election, are all close enough for Obama to have a decent shot at them (and in some cases, favoring him slightly.) Obama's not going to win all those, no -- but he doesn't have to. Those are states where traditionally, a Republican shouldn't even have to campaign beyond raising cash; McCain is going to have to spend significant resources defending them. Even just two would be enough for Obama to win without Florida or Ohio. If McCain loses either of those two key states, meanwhile, it's almost impossible for him to win -- and Obama leads very slightly in Ohio, enough for him to be in danger there, while Flordia has been steadily growing closer as the delegate issue fades into the past. |
2008-09-08, 20:42 | Link #2249 | |
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a slight chance in Virgina and good chance in Indiana and Ohio.
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2008-09-08, 21:36 | Link #2250 | |
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I'm also not sure why you say Obama has a better chance in Virginia than in Indiana. If you look at the polls, Obama's actually been doing better in Virgina, out of the two. It has a fairly sizable black population, and has been edging increasingly Democratic as its northern urban areas grow. (Don't confuse it with West Virginia, mind. The two states are very different. Virginia is much more urban, especially today.) If you're just talking about gut feelings and the way the states "usually go", that's the point. Virginia is not quite so surprising for the reasons I mentioned, but North Dakota and Montana are very surprising. |
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2008-09-08, 22:39 | Link #2251 |
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The polls in my opinion aren't really that interesting. They just show how popular/cooler they are in each state. What really counts in my opinion is the official election day. Man, too bad I'm too young to vote yet ><. Guess I have to wait for the next election in 2012 (when I'm almost 20 years old xD).
I wanna hear from some of the high schoolers on here how do they think about the election, and who do they like more. Now thats gonna be interesting for the next election in 2012!
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2008-09-08, 22:41 | Link #2252 | |
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Sadly, my country will listen to the every whim of the US government. That's why I'm trying to get out of Canada. On a last note: most Canadians don't see wild polar bears. xD Nor do we all live in igloos.
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2008-09-08, 23:20 | Link #2255 | |
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Just went back to read his post again, and am pretty sure it was a joke. |
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2008-09-09, 01:22 | Link #2256 | |
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2008-09-09, 04:25 | Link #2257 | |
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2008-09-09, 04:58 | Link #2258 | |
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Back to topic, still waiting for debates. That's what's going to help the voters. As Niki Ecko says, this is all about Obama vs McCain. |
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2008-09-09, 08:28 | Link #2260 |
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It is most assuredly not "all about Obama vs McCain." It's all about the coalitions of interest that stand behind the two political parties and how those interests will be expressed in the organs of government. I, for one, don't want to see the administrative agencies of the Executive Branch, or the Federal court system, again under the control of a bunch of people who routinely favor the interests of large corporations and care little about the general welfare.
The perception that the election is all about the candidates comes directly from television. TV coverage can't, or won't, delve into issues like who the candidates will bring with them to staff the next government. The important issue of Supreme Court nominations gets some coverage, but only because abortion continues to be a "hot-button" issue for some groups in the electorate. Lifetime appointments to the rest of the Federal court system? Nope, never hear about it. Who will staff the Federal Housing Finance Administration? What do you think? Do these things actually matter to most Americans? In reality, yes they do -- a lot. People whose pension funds had substantial investments in Freddie and Fannie which are now worth zero should be very concerned about the performance of Federal regulatory agencies. Workers who've lost jobs through outsourcing might be concerned about how subsidies to corporations exacerbated these changes. People living in New Orleans probably would have preferred to see the Federal Emergency Management Agency staffed by people who cared about the effects of hurricanes on the poor. Yes, these things matter a lot, much more in fact than the identities of the candidates themselves.
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