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Opening week sales do not appear here; all these figures are per volume. The number of episodes per volume varies, usually between two and four. The ratio of BD to DVD sales gives you an idea whether women are in the audience. Japanese men, especially otaku men, are more likely to own BD players than women. Shows with a high ratio of BD to DVD sales are usually shows that appeal more to men. In contrast, look at these figures a recent installment of the Hakuoki franchise: Hakuouki Reimeiroku *3,818+*1,349=*5,167 (6) (Studio Deen/Sentei Filmworks) Hakuoki is based on a series of otome games about a young woman who becomes involved with bishounen versions of the famous Shinsengumi. The story is a "reverse harem" with a central female protagonist surrounded by a bevy of attractive men. This installment, the fourth I believe, sold more than twice as many DVDs as BDs.
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2013-11-26, 10:40 | Link #1002 | |
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(I thought buying BD or DVD at japan depends on how much you would invest for anime/games) I see... yes, I know about Hakuoki (and obviously it's for the female audience) but I haven't thought about the numbers! Thank you ><! ------ edit: oh.. um.... wait... so the K anime had more male audience.......? what..................lol"???? (isn't it supposed to be for the girls? I mean from the looks of its PV... and my female friends are fangirl-ing all over this anime and pairings and what not lol") or there's just some exceptions in some cases..lol" (like this one)
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2013-11-26, 11:50 | Link #1003 | |
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In short, as with sales, it's more complicated than what people try to condense it down to. Take each series separately.
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2013-11-26, 15:12 | Link #1004 |
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Are these more the exceptions, though?
Browsing through the figures for 2012, most shows have larger BD sales than DVD sales, and for some shows like Girls und Panzer the ratio is huge (34,000 BD to 1,500 DVD). Kuroko no Basuke which apparently had a large female following has a much more even ratio with 13,000 DVDs to about 11,000 BDs. I'm not proposing this as a hard and fast rule, but there is some truth to the notion that a higher DVD/BD ratio => more female viewers.
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2013-11-26, 15:51 | Link #1005 |
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Recently, some BD have different special feature compared to the DVDs. In the case of Space Battleship Yamato 2199, the BD comes with English subtitles while the DVD does not.
Also the BD are either Region A (Japan and the Americas) or Region Free (everyone), while the DVDs are Region 2 (Japan and part of Europe). So when a show has international appeal without a known local release, the BD will sell more. (Space Battleship Yamato 2199's BD are Region Free)
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2013-11-26, 16:10 | Link #1006 | |
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Also, some shows sell BDs with all the LE goods and only a RE DVD (like the GaruPan example you gave, explaining the vast disparity) while others sell a LE DVD (like Magi or Free!). Those shows have lower BD-to-DVD ratios (though BD is still favored). Like I said, it's better to just focus on the show itself rather than try and fit it into a general category.
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2013-11-26, 17:33 | Link #1007 | |
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Kuroko no Basuke: Blu-Ray and DVD LE are the same, but the DVD is 1000 yen cheaper K: DVDs and BDs are exactly the same price Tiger & Bunny: The DVD is barebones, and there's only a Blu-Ray version of the LE (Starting writing this before the latest post so I'll look up the new examples...) Edit: UtaPri: DVD & Blu-Ray exactly the same price Shingeki: DVD is the same, but 1000 yen cheaper Free: DVD is the same, but 1000 yen cheaper (So, in total, half of the examples have special cases that may influence buying habits.)
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2013-11-30, 23:18 | Link #1009 |
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See the Sales Thread, but it really didn't do very well on BD/DVD at any point, and the recent season didn't really do anything to change that either way (it follows directly in line with the sales from the previous two seasons, following the usual gradual slope over time). However, it does seem to be doing reasonably well on the CD/concert front. My guess would be that we'll see more OAD episodes in the future.
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2013-12-01, 07:57 | Link #1010 | |
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2013-12-01, 18:41 | Link #1011 | |
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2013-12-01, 18:55 | Link #1012 |
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To be honest I would not be surprised for more TWGOK OADs simply because of the time skip between s2 and s3 - prolly a fair number of folks would like to see what happened in between the two, esp those who follow the manga. What they have released so far that both held and deviated to the manga story line so far though ... I am not sure of their success per se, but producing them would be more inexpensive than airing a whole new season, I'd guess.....
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2013-12-23, 06:02 | Link #1013 |
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I decided to go through the list and was quite surprised at sales of some TV anime...
Spoiler for above 5,000:
I was expecting Shingeki no Kyojin to sell well, since it is both approachable from different market pools, but to sell 50+k copies was totally unexpected. Monogatari Series is holding strong despite the source material diverted its attention from the two most popular (in the anime) characters. Then we get two fujoshi anime, which have been ignored by most studios in favor of countless ecchi anime that follow. As for the worst sales... Spoiler for below 1,000:
The long running TV anime are expected here, but several NoitaminA, GAINAX and the comeback of GONZO should tell something about how their "alternative" approach to the audience is perceived. Also there are several sequels that changed staff and plummeted their sales.
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2013-12-23, 12:05 | Link #1015 |
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I think that Fantasista Doll and Genei were probably hurt a bit by going head-to-head with Prisma ILLYA, which had more clear-cut magical girl genre appeal.
In addition to this, Fantastista Doll really did feel to me like it was meant for a young girl audience (i.e. girls between 7 and 13). It's a subtle different that's hard to put into words, but as a seasoned anime viewer I can kinda tell that Love Live! and K-On! are meant for adult males, whereas Fantastista Doll was just missing something that would make it feel that way to me (not enough clear moe sex appeal, maybe?) Genei's artstyle might have hurt it. Galilei Donna was a bit of a mess, so I'm not surprised it sold poorly. KKK had cute character designs, but was probably too 4Koma-esque in its presentation (I suspect that much the same thing probably undermined Nichijou some time ago). I think most of us here knows what hurt Aku no Hana. I'm kind of surprised that Milky Holmes sold so poorly. Maybe I'm confusing it with something else, but wasn't Milky Holmes pretty big at one time?
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Fantasista Doll and Genei weren't exactly praised. In fact, in 2ch, it was more or less the laughing stock, especially FD. Quote:
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GAINAX is more of a dissappointment in my eyes, all anime they put out since Panty and Stocking have sold below 1000 copies. I mean they were not good, but also not <1k bad
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I am of the same opinion on this. Though I hear that that the second series' story is a lot more involving.
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I disagree. Shows in the same genre going head-to-head can easily hurt the sales for one or more of those shows. I think that's why ef and True Tears had poor/middling sales - Going head-to-head with Clannad hurt them badly, I think.
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You have an incredible huge pool of kagiko, while Minori doesn't have a fanbase as big as the latter. I never saw any glaring difference in term of sales when several "usual" series of the same genre are "competiting" on the same season, especially the usual harem ones, save those with a rather major source material (such like IS and HS DxD). Quote:
And frankly, using F/Z sales figure to put up this argument doesn't make sense at all. We are talking about a spin off, compared to a prequel of a major title over there. That's arguably not the same weight. If I had to take in consideration the difference in term of production values and marketing, I really don't think you can claim the genre made the difference.
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I think you're putting a bit too much weight in the importance of source material popularity (it's important, but it's not as totally overriding as you seem to think it is), and not enough weight in how DVD/Blu-Ray sales are a zero sum game. Given how pricey these are, there's only so many of these that your average otaku is going to be buying in any one season, so head-to-head same-genre competition can have adverse sales impacts. Harem is perhaps an exception because it's such a massive genre to begin with. Quote:
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These sales discrepancies suggest to me that brand name is not the main factor here in sales success for either of these Type Moon titles.
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