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the_firefly · 2009-04-06, 19:57

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Originally Posted by Klashikari

OTZ. After listening again a sample of Fukuhara as Tsukasa (LS), it boggles me how I could mistake Nonaka and her. My bad my bad *sigh*

And Hisakawa was voicing Kate? She wasn't exactly recognizable in my book, huhu.

It was the closest thing I saw to 'Kate' but I could be wrong,

Sterling01 · 2009-04-06, 20:46

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Originally Posted by Klashikari

Aside of that, I'm surprised they did take their time for the plot, as I was expecting some skipped stuff (especially regarding the whole thing with Kate and Oscar).
I still have hard time to compute Kawasumi as Alice... she still has too much "soft tones"

Yeah I wished they kept Yukari Tamura for Alice.

blitz1/2 · 2009-04-06, 22:50

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Originally Posted by Sterling01

Yeah I wished they kept Yukari Tamura for Alice.

Thirded again. Ayako just makes Alice's voice too soft.

EDIT: I have a feeling that Xebec is just a bunch of Ayako fanboys, refer to To love ru's saki, Kanokon;s Chizuru and now Pandora Hearts >_>. The drama cast was good, why didn't they keep it is anyone's guess.

Tyabann · 2009-04-06, 22:54

Having had no exposure to the Drama CD's cast, I thought her voice was fine...

FlareKnight · 2009-04-06, 23:08

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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Having had no exposure to the Drama CD's cast, I thought her voice was fine...

Yeah I'm in the same boat having no exposure to the Drama CD cast. I personally felt the voice was good so don't have any complaints there. The soft tone worked well especially when things suddenly switched to being much more serious

. Didn't really have a problem with the voices of anyone in the first episode.

evil-samurai · 2009-04-07, 04:57

They did a good job with the episode, the start of the manga was always my least favorite part, up until Oz found the watch, so it can only get better! Art and animation was anything special but I loved the watch melody. It really set up the Alice scene well. Had no problems with the VA, I'm very much of a fan of Alice's voice, and Oz was well.

Shiroth · 2009-04-07, 05:52

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Originally Posted by blitz1/2

Thirded again. Ayako just makes Alice's voice too soft.

Another one from me, though then again i've been saying it since the anime cast was announced.

Ayako does a good though, though she's not the Alice i wanted to hear. Doesn't bother me that much that i wouldn't watch the show though.

Sorrow-K · 2009-04-07, 07:12

Kawasumi is generally a very good seiyuu, and I thought she's handled the role quite well so far.

Ep 1

This has potential. The artstyle is rather unrefined, but I don't think it detracts to any great degree. (It's not hard to be reminded of Kuroshitsuji to a certain degree and, as someone mentioned way earlier in this thread, A-1 is definitely a superior animation studio to XEBEC). But the atmosphere is dark and really heavy and that scene with Kawasumi's character was intense and really well done. I think this show is definitely worth keeping an eye on. It's been pretty quick to set the tone.

Shiroth · 2009-04-07, 07:16

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Originally Posted by Sorrow-K

Kawasumi is generally a very good seiyuu, and I thought she's handled the role quite well so far.

We're not saying she isn't --- personally she's one of my favorites. We are saying that she's not the perfect choice for Alice.

orion · 2009-04-07, 07:38

Maybe the director wants a different Alice. One that is more sympathetic, able to portray romance, moe and psychological trauma including yanderu moments. Kawasumi's version of Alice's yanderu moment I was feeling sorry for her and followed every word. I was also a little scared. I liked the duality of emotions that I felt. Tamura's anime characters that I've been exposed to (Michiru from Air, Minmin from Mushi-uta) tend to have a harsh/brash side to their voices which I don't find very sympathetic or flat with no emotion (Mai from Air).

Her performance made Oz's subsequent reaction more believable. If I was really scared, I would have tossed that watch away. However, Alice being sympathetic (trapped in a room with dolls and getting a little crazy) and crying for help ( the murder attempt since the dolls said that it wasn't his first time there to see her) made him keeping that watch and being inquisitive about it more believable.

Besides, you can't get better than Saber (Fate/stay night) and Kurau (Kurau Phantom Memory), a mixture of nobility, sexuality and tragedy.

I think that this Alice is doing a good job.

fedor mma · 2009-04-07, 11:14

I have read a little of the manga and ep 1 was a pretty decent adaption.
I'm keeping an eye out for this one.

Sinestra · 2009-04-07, 14:27

Though the first episode was vague with whats going on i felt its dark and mysterious tone instantly and liked it. Some of the scenes were just down right creepy especially the girl who seems like some type of apparition and spiteful one at that. I am not familiar with the series but i unrecognized several nice voice talents being used in this one and approve. I will be following Pandora Hearts carefully this one really caught me. I am not too excited about over half of the new spring selection of series so this was a nice touch.

Kaoru Chujo · 2009-04-07, 16:13

The discussion of Kawasumi is great. Interesting points all round. As a complete noob to this franchise, I love the way she's doing the character -- to the extent that I might even consider it among the best performances of the year so far -- but we'll see how well her version fits as we get further into the story. And I suppose the people who are put off by her version may get a chance to adapt, too.

Guido · 2009-04-07, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

The discussion of Kawasumi is great. Interesting points all round. As a complete noob to this franchise, I love the way she's doing the character -- to the extent that I might even consider it among the best performances of the year so far -- but we'll see how well her version fits as we get further into the story. And I suppose the people who are put off by her version may get a chance to adapt, too.

I second that opinion.

In fact, I'm amazed about the dexterity and malleability of her voice to play characters with varied personalities.

As of recently, I watched episode 22 of Kuroshitsuji, and imagine my surprise when I recognized Ayako Kawasumi's voice in the role of the lolita version of Queen Victoria. It was such a nice treat to listen.

Spoiler:

Ashlotte · 2009-04-07, 19:52

Intriguing first episode and thankfully the lead isnt near as shota as he appeared on the website (I blame the shorts and lack of others near him in statics to give a sense of scale

).

Hopefully they can maintain this air of mystery and intrigue for atleast alittle while. Long enough hopefully to come to understand the characters at the very least.

NakedAngelX · 2009-04-09, 19:44

Awesome episode 2!

Spoiler for Ep 2:

Anyone know the melody from when the watch is opened, is it original? Or it's copied from somewhere. Would be nice for a Pandora Hearts Music Box hehe.

serenade_beta · 2009-04-09, 20:05

Hau...~ Oz, switch with me. Why do only you get to get stepped on by Alice?! (；´Д｀)ハァハァ

Spoiler for ep2:

Manic · 2009-04-10, 02:07

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Also it seems from Oz's view she's a girl, but from other people's view she's the black rabbit?

yeah its the same in the manga too and it never explains it, they have a deep connection so it might be why he sees her as her human appearence

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Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Hau...~ Oz, switch with me. Why do only you get to get stepped on by Alice?! (；´Д｀)ハァハァ

Spoiler for ep2:

Here s some answers to your questions without spoiling much

Spoiler:

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Though the animation sure tried to exaggerate Alice's facial expressions a bit too much

haha they didnt really exaggerate she looks that insane in the manga as well actually i think she looked even more insane in the manga. Its just the way alice is which is why she is awesome

serenade_beta · 2009-04-10, 04:50

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Originally Posted by Manic

Its just the way alice is which is why she is awesome

You understand!

Sterling01 · 2009-04-10, 08:30

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Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for ep2:

It's Sharon

2009-04-07, 07:12	Link #248
Sorrow-K Somehow I found out Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 40	Kawasumi is generally a very good seiyuu, and I thought she's handled the role quite well so far. Ep 1 This has potential. The artstyle is rather unrefined, but I don't think it detracts to any great degree. (It's not hard to be reminded of Kuroshitsuji to a certain degree and, as someone mentioned way earlier in this thread, A-1 is definitely a superior animation studio to XEBEC). But the atmosphere is dark and really heavy and that scene with Kawasumi's character was intense and really well done. I think this show is definitely worth keeping an eye on. It's been pretty quick to set the tone. __________________ .:The Nihon Review:.:Ikoku Meiro no Croisée:.:Tamayura: Hitotose:. .:Behind The Nihon Review:.:Understanding Guilty Crown’s Failure:. .:MAL:.:Twitter:.

2009-04-07, 07:38	Link #250
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	Maybe the director wants a different Alice. One that is more sympathetic, able to portray romance, moe and psychological trauma including yanderu moments. Kawasumi's version of Alice's yanderu moment I was feeling sorry for her and followed every word. I was also a little scared. I liked the duality of emotions that I felt. Tamura's anime characters that I've been exposed to (Michiru from Air, Minmin from Mushi-uta) tend to have a harsh/brash side to their voices which I don't find very sympathetic or flat with no emotion (Mai from Air). Her performance made Oz's subsequent reaction more believable. If I was really scared, I would have tossed that watch away. However, Alice being sympathetic (trapped in a room with dolls and getting a little crazy) and crying for help ( the murder attempt since the dolls said that it wasn't his first time there to see her) made him keeping that watch and being inquisitive about it more believable. Besides, you can't get better than Saber (Fate/stay night) and Kurau (Kurau Phantom Memory), a mixture of nobility, sexuality and tragedy. I think that this Alice is doing a good job. __________________

2009-04-07, 14:27	Link #252
Sinestra ション (^^) IT Support Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Freedom Guard Ship Amaterasu	Though the first episode was vague with whats going on i felt its dark and mysterious tone instantly and liked it. Some of the scenes were just down right creepy especially the girl who seems like some type of apparition and spiteful one at that. I am not familiar with the series but i unrecognized several nice voice talents being used in this one and approve. I will be following Pandora Hearts carefully this one really caught me. I am not too excited about over half of the new spring selection of series so this was a nice touch. __________________

2009-04-07, 16:13	Link #253
Kaoru Chujo Yuuki Aoi Join Date: Jul 2004	The discussion of Kawasumi is great. Interesting points all round. As a complete noob to this franchise, I love the way she's doing the character -- to the extent that I might even consider it among the best performances of the year so far -- but we'll see how well her version fits as we get further into the story. And I suppose the people who are put off by her version may get a chance to adapt, too. __________________ YUUKI Aoi 悠木碧. b92.03.27 (age 29). 2008 Kurenai (Murasaki). 2009 Yumeiro Pâtissière (Ichigo), Kiruminzuu (Riko), Yutori-chan (Yutori-chan). 2010 Vampire Bund (Mina Tepeş), Shiki (Sunako), Samurai Girls (Juubee), Pokémon: Black and White (Iris). 2011 Madoka Magica (Madoka), Gosick (Victorique), A-Channel (Tooru). 2012 Symphogear (Hibiki). 2014 Pilot's Love Song (Claire/Nina), Nanatsu no Taizai (Diane). 2015 Owari no Seraph (Krul Tepes), Rokka no Yuusha (Fremy). 2016 Boku no Hero Academia (Tsuyu, Froppy). 2017 Kino no Tabi (Kino). 2021 Kumo desu ga (watashi), Kaizoku Oujo (Karin), Heike Monogatari (Biwa), etc., etc. Total of 513 roles in anime and games.

2009-04-07, 19:52	Link #255
Ashlotte Clockwork Join Date: Oct 2006	Intriguing first episode and thankfully the lead isnt near as shota as he appeared on the website (I blame the shorts and lack of others near him in statics to give a sense of scale ). Hopefully they can maintain this air of mystery and intrigue for atleast alittle while. Long enough hopefully to come to understand the characters at the very least. __________________ No matter what enemy. No matter what ally. Mowing everything down with maximum destructive power. That is... "The White Devil of the Administration Bureau"

2009-04-06, 22:54	Link #244
Tyabann Homo Ludens Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Age: 34	Having had no exposure to the Drama CD's cast, I thought her voice was fine...

2009-04-07, 04:57	Link #246
evil-samurai ...... Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 37	They did a good job with the episode, the start of the manga was always my least favorite part, up until Oz found the watch, so it can only get better! Art and animation was anything special but I loved the watch melody. It really set up the Alice scene well. Had no problems with the VA, I'm very much of a fan of Alice's voice, and Oz was well.

2009-04-07, 11:14	Link #251
fedor mma Member Join Date: Jan 2009	I have read a little of the manga and ep 1 was a pretty decent adaption. I'm keeping an eye out for this one.

2009-04-09, 19:44	Link #256
NakedAngelX Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Canada	Awesome episode 2! Spoiler for Ep 2: Alice's entrance into the human world had great momentum. It was fcuking awesome! Though the fight between her and the three shinigamis is a bit weak. Also it seems from Oz's view she's a girl, but from other people's view she's the black rabbit? The show has a lot of explanations to do, and I'm too lazy to read the manga xD Anyone know the melody from when the watch is opened, is it original? Or it's copied from somewhere. Would be nice for a Pandora Hearts Music Box hehe. __________________

2009-04-09, 20:05	Link #257
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Hau...~ Oz, switch with me. Why do only you get to get stepped on by Alice?! (；´Д｀)ハァハァ Spoiler for ep2: Well, it was interesting. Definitely want to see want happens next! Umm~, but I was a bit lost at the end... Which is more of something to be answered in the future, I guess. Why Gilbert prevented Oz from killing the masked person, Alice is...?, where in the world Shallon(sp?) and the other two were (looks like an abandoned version of the building Oz was in before he got blown to somewhere), etc... Animation for the action wasn't particularly amazing, but OK, it works. Though the animation sure tried to exaggerate Alice's facial expressions a bit too much, But it was a good episode, even if a few parts feel a bit iffy here and there. Looking forward to the future~ Ah-ah... Gilbert died... Gufufu... Alice, kawaii yo, Alice... I wonder what happened to the people all in the temple...? So the black bunny is Alice? Oh! Oz, you understand, don't you! Younger! Definitely girls younger than you, right? Sounds like you and me need to have some tea time together, hahaha~! __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)