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babohtea · 2010-01-10, 12:38

Can somebody please answer these questions?

How isn't Yoshii useless? Most of his classmates have an excuse for their low scores (can't read kanji, etc.), but Yoshii sure doesn't. What good is he?

Are Yoshii and Yuuji actually friends? I can't really tell -_-

Avisch · 2010-01-10, 12:47

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Originally Posted by babohtea

Can somebody please answer these questions?

How isn't Yoshii useless? Most of his classmates have an excuse for their low scores (can't read kanji, etc.), but Yoshii sure doesn't. What good is he?

Are Yoshii and Yuuji actually friends? I can't really tell -_-

1. Because his Summoned Beast is low tier, it can interact with the physical world. I imagine this is a good case of Chekov's gun. Meh more needs to be revealed anyway as to why he has low scores (other than being an "idiot").

2. The manga clearly labels him as his "evil best friend" so yeah they are friends in the usual half-fighting dynamic.

Raiga · 2010-01-10, 13:43

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Shin Oonuma (the director of Baka Test has worked under Akiyuki Shinbo in the past, plus he also directed an episode of Bakemonogatari, so it's not surprise.

Yeah the OP and ED, especially the ED with the background text and all, reminded me a lot of the OP and ED of Ef (which he also directed).

Clarste · 2010-01-10, 13:55

I'm pretty sure Yoshii's just an idiot. Remember when he was walking to his classroom and thinking that he was sure he did well, after all he must've have gotten at least 10% right... Yeah, he's that kind of idiot who doesn't even realize how stupid he is compared to everyone else.

babohtea · 2010-01-10, 14:49

So he's only useful because he's a total idiot? Does he have noble character traits or something? Is there ANYTHING to like about him?

Raiga · 2010-01-10, 14:50

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Originally Posted by babohtea

So he's only useful because he's a total idiot? Does he have noble character traits or something? Is there ANYTHING to like about him?

Well he did stand up for Himeji when she had a fever during the test.

babohtea · 2010-01-10, 14:55

He also had a major crush on the girl. Standing up for the person the hot smart girl isn't exactly something out of the ordinary.

Kaioshin Sama · 2010-01-10, 15:56

So am I right to say this is kind of like Yugioh only with girls and a slightly different goal instead of a dude with multi-coloured hair trying to win a card tournament. Looks like it might be up my alley if it has some actual stat crunching and rules.

OceanBlue · 2010-01-10, 15:57

In my opinion, it's hard to know a lot about a character from the first episode, especially when half of it was gags and the other half was a battle. This episode was to set up the setting and draw in interest; finding out more and empathizing with the characters should come later.

Shiroth · 2010-01-10, 16:02

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Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

So am I right to say this is kind of like Yugioh only with girls and a slightly different goal instead of a dude with multi-coloured hair trying to win a card tournament. Looks like it might be up my alley if it has some actual stat crunching and rules.

No.

The only similarity it has to Yu-gi-oh is that the characters use a summon. That's it.

Kaioshin Sama · 2010-01-10, 16:10

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

No.

The only similarity it has to Yu-gi-oh is that the characters use a summon. That's it.

But I actually liked the card battle aspect of Yu-Gi-Oh since it actually had a cohesive structure to it beyond the second season.

Oh well even if it's everything's made up and the points don't matter as they go I think I can get a larf out of the prole F Class girl trying to struggle up the ol' social status ladder to join the bourgeois A class. Sounds about as unbalanced as Rise of The Robots tier of ever escalating and impossible battles with the gimped dude they give you to play as.

mechdra · 2010-01-10, 21:27

I like this series so far and the jokes is fun .

Shimada Minami really resembles Hayase Mina from Sexfriend. No wonder she looks familiar when I first saw her.

I would like to thank Minatsu from Seitokai no Ichizon for introducing this series to me.

Yuuko is the best!

Traece · 2010-01-10, 21:48

Hm... It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad at all.

Apparently I'm the only person on the forums that actually saw some reason to like Yoshii. It seemed to me like he was a sensible and respectable individual, and that he didn't seem to really be stupid. But then it is only the first episode so...

Normally an anime like this with an amazingly unrealistic concept like the battle system wouldn't interest me but I somehow found it to be entertaining. There is yet more to watch.

Claies · 2010-01-10, 22:37

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Hm... It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad at all.

Apparently I'm the only person on the forums that actually saw some reason to like Yoshii. It seemed to me like he was a sensible and respectable individual, and that he didn't seem to really be stupid. But then it is only the first episode so...

Normally an anime like this with an amazingly unrealistic concept like the battle system wouldn't interest me but I somehow found it to be entertaining. There is yet more to watch.

Stupid in some ways, not so much in others. As far as I know, the series doesn't delve much into personal histories, which makes me sad. That's part of why I liked Hayate no Gotoku.

tsunade666 · 2010-01-10, 22:55

yoshii is stupid and so is yuuji if you ask me and together they are idiot duo.

no matter what cool front they show it will still end up with a deadly comedic scene. I can't keep saving my lungs every time I laugh.

Tyabann · 2010-01-10, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Claies

Stupid in some ways, not so much in others. As far as I know, the series doesn't delve much into personal histories, which makes me sad. That's part of why I liked Hayate no Gotoku.

This means it probably won't fall into useless badly-written angst too much. Good.

I loved this first episode, by the way. Strongest start of any of the shows this season.

Duo Maxwell · 2010-01-10, 23:04

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Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

But I actually liked the card battle aspect of Yu-Gi-Oh since it actually had a cohesive structure to it beyond the second season.

Better playing the game than watching the anime. Way much better

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Btw, I don't think we will have a deep battle system, because I believe that's not the main thing in this show. Mostly it's character interaction and the jokes.

mechdra · 2010-01-10, 23:14

Yoshi is just pure stupid and Yuuji have an intelligent of an elementry student. However, all of them is strong in their own way.

For those who are interested, volume 1 is translated in baka tsuki. Beware of spoilers!

ac3y · 2010-01-10, 23:35

I can't stop thinking how implementing such a system would dramatically increase motivation to study.
Okay, it probably wouldn't work that well, but I'd have to do some more serious thinking to winnow out exactly why.
At a glance though, making studying fun and giving a short-term payoff (whipping rival classes in exam summoning wars) rather than a vague long-term payoff (go to university yay) might work better for secondary students.

Clarste · 2010-01-10, 23:38

It gives them a reason to get good grades, but it doesn't help them study. Quite the opposite in fact. By deliberately punishing the weaker students, they get a lower quality education and fall even further behind. It's unlikely we'd see the kind of turn-around they portrayed in the anime very often, since the system is self-reinforcing. The bad students will stay bad, and the average students will stay average. It's possible that the students on top will benefit though, since a disproportionate amount of funding is spent on them.

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Traece :cool: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Idaho Age: 32	Hm... It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad at all. Apparently I'm the only person on the forums that actually saw some reason to like Yoshii. It seemed to me like he was a sensible and respectable individual, and that he didn't seem to really be stupid. But then it is only the first episode so... Normally an anime like this with an amazingly unrealistic concept like the battle system wouldn't interest me but I somehow found it to be entertaining. There is yet more to watch. __________________

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ac3y Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vancouver	I can't stop thinking how implementing such a system would dramatically increase motivation to study. Okay, it probably wouldn't work that well, but I'd have to do some more serious thinking to winnow out exactly why. At a glance though, making studying fun and giving a short-term payoff (whipping rival classes in exam summoning wars) rather than a vague long-term payoff (go to university yay) might work better for secondary students. __________________ Tsunderes are less fun in real life.

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babohtea Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	Can somebody please answer these questions? How isn't Yoshii useless? Most of his classmates have an excuse for their low scores (can't read kanji, etc.), but Yoshii sure doesn't. What good is he? Are Yoshii and Yuuji actually friends? I can't really tell -_-

2010-01-10, 13:55	Link #224
Clarste Human Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37	I'm pretty sure Yoshii's just an idiot. Remember when he was walking to his classroom and thinking that he was sure he did well, after all he must've have gotten at least 10% right... Yeah, he's that kind of idiot who doesn't even realize how stupid he is compared to everyone else.

2010-01-10, 14:49	Link #225
babohtea Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	So he's only useful because he's a total idiot? Does he have noble character traits or something? Is there ANYTHING to like about him?

2010-01-10, 14:55	Link #227
babohtea Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	He also had a major crush on the girl. Standing up for the person the hot smart girl isn't exactly something out of the ordinary.

2010-01-10, 15:56	Link #228
Kaioshin Sama Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Neither Here nor There Age: 39	So am I right to say this is kind of like Yugioh only with girls and a slightly different goal instead of a dude with multi-coloured hair trying to win a card tournament. Looks like it might be up my alley if it has some actual stat crunching and rules.

2010-01-10, 15:57	Link #229
OceanBlue Not an expert on things Join Date: Jun 2007	In my opinion, it's hard to know a lot about a character from the first episode, especially when half of it was gags and the other half was a battle. This episode was to set up the setting and draw in interest; finding out more and empathizing with the characters should come later.

2010-01-10, 21:27	Link #232
mechdra Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	I like this series so far and the jokes is fun . Shimada Minami really resembles Hayase Mina from Sexfriend. No wonder she looks familiar when I first saw her. I would like to thank Minatsu from Seitokai no Ichizon for introducing this series to me. Yuuko is the best!

2010-01-10, 22:55	Link #235
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	yoshii is stupid and so is yuuji if you ask me and together they are idiot duo. no matter what cool front they show it will still end up with a deadly comedic scene. I can't keep saving my lungs every time I laugh.

2010-01-10, 23:14	Link #238
mechdra Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	Yoshi is just pure stupid and Yuuji have an intelligent of an elementry student. However, all of them is strong in their own way. For those who are interested, volume 1 is translated in baka tsuki. Beware of spoilers!

2010-01-10, 23:38	Link #240
Clarste Human Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37	It gives them a reason to get good grades, but it doesn't help them study. Quite the opposite in fact. By deliberately punishing the weaker students, they get a lower quality education and fall even further behind. It's unlikely we'd see the kind of turn-around they portrayed in the anime very often, since the system is self-reinforcing. The bad students will stay bad, and the average students will stay average. It's possible that the students on top will benefit though, since a disproportionate amount of funding is spent on them.