Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The MOVIE 1st

[RadiantBeam]

Originally Posted by Kaijo

I think understanding Nanoha's family, lends a great deal to understanding Nanoha, and their reactions to her. Removing them is quite a loss.

I agree completely. Part of understanding Nanoha, her personality, and her motivations was knowing her backstory with her family and how they treated her. It's understandable they got cut, but it still causes some major confusion for first time fans when trying to figure out why Nanoha is the way she is at only nine years old.

[Mushi]

Originally Posted by RadiantBeam

I agree completely. Part of understanding Nanoha, her personality, and her motivations was knowing her backstory with her family and how they treated her.

Ditto.

The first four episodes of MGLN boring? I thought they were paced very well and gave an important backdrop to Nanoha's world. There is a good mixture of side characters and action in those episodes.

[leodamine]

Originally Posted by Mushi

Ditto.

The first four episodes of MGLN boring? I thought they were paced very well and gave an important backdrop to Nanoha's world. There is a good mixture of side characters and action in those episodes.

Usually when shows set up for things people find them boring. So many people stopped Umineko (the game) while it was still introducing characters. >_>

The impatience these days, hmph.

[krisslanza]

Originally Posted by Mushi

Ditto.

The first four episodes of MGLN boring? I thought they were paced very well and gave an important backdrop to Nanoha's world. There is a good mixture of side characters and action in those episodes.

Statistically speaking, and from what I've seen from some people, most people don't finish watching Nanoha based on the first three episodes or so of MSLN. Mainly because during those episodes, it comes off as extremely generic. MSLN doesn't pick up until Fate shows up in EP4 really.

Some people who recommend Nanoha suggest starting with A's, or skipping the first three or four episodes of MSLN.

[mokoufanatic]

that is a bad idea personally cause without it you could get lost in some of the back story that happens later on in the series then people are confused and start disliking the series more cause they didn't want to sit through the first what ever episodes that tell them what is happening

[Blank-Mage]

Originally Posted by krisslanza

Statistically speaking, and from what I've seen from some people, most people don't finish watching Nanoha based on the first three episodes or so of MSLN. Mainly because during those episodes, it comes off as extremely generic. MSLN doesn't pick up until Fate shows up in EP4 really.

Some people who recommend Nanoha suggest starting with A's, or skipping the first three or four episodes of MSLN.

I agree, I only got that far because I have this ridiculous system wherein I always finish what I start. This time it payed off! Yeah, everything leading up to Fate is stupid cheerful Magical Girl fare. Throwing in child abuse, hardcore fight scenes, and interdimensional warships is what got my attention.

[mokoufanatic]

bright and flashing lights have a tendency to do that that is what gets me on alot of anime's i dont know about everyone else

[Mushi]

Originally Posted by krisslanza

Some people who recommend Nanoha suggest starting with A's, or skipping the first three or four episodes of MSLN.

*facepalm*

Why not just explain that the first three episodes contain background info important to the main character and suggest that you just stick with it for the best experience?

The impatience these days, hmph.

Ditto... again.

[krisslanza]

Originally Posted by Mushi

*facepalm*

Why not just explain that the first three episodes contain background info important to the main character and suggest that you just stick with it for the best experience?

It's tough to convince some people? *shrug*
Plus MSLN does kind of overuse the whole transformation sequence, which turns off some viewers a lot. I mean, I like a transformation sequence too but MSLN uses it like every other episode...

[Mushi]

Ah, yeah... the transformations. Not having a lot of familiarity with magical girl shows, I just considered them to be part of the genre and took them in stride. I did think the effects were pretty cool and they seemed to make the MGLN transformations something a little different (better) than others I'd seen.

[Rising Dragon]

I was able to put up with the transformations because I'd seen a few seasons of Sailor Moon, which is way too many transformation scenes anyone should be put through. Knowing it was only 13 episodes helped much in that regard.

[MeisterBabylon]

Originally Posted by hinakatbklyn

There's only one addition Fate has that a real predator doesn't have, a small hint of compassion.

Arguable, if you consider Aliens vs Predator.

[mokoufanatic]

but not every transformation had its whole "transform cut scene" if you will it stopped around the 8th episode which is true it did help alot

[RadiantBeam]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

I was able to put up with the transformations because I'd seen a few seasons of Sailor Moon, which is way too many transformation scenes anyone should be put through. Knowing it was only 13 episodes helped much in that regard.

Though to be fair, Sailor Moon had transformation sequences for girls that were 14-16, not counting Setsuna's age. Still strange to watch, but at least I didn't feel like a pedophile, in contrast to Fate and Nanoha's transformation sequences in the first season and A's... then Erio and Caro in StrikerS.... ugh.

[itanshi1]

Originally Posted by krisslanza

Statistically speaking, and from what I've seen from some people, most people don't finish watching Nanoha based on the first three episodes or so of MSLN. Mainly because during those episodes, it comes off as extremely generic. MSLN doesn't pick up until Fate shows up in EP4 really.

Some people who recommend Nanoha suggest starting with A's, or skipping the first three or four episodes of MSLN.

That doesn't make sense to me. she ran from the cops! that sold it for me, have i not watched neough mahou shoujo, or what? x_x

[mokoufanatic]

dont worry most people wouldn't know that cause most people dont watch the first few episodes

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by RadiantBeam

Though to be fair, Sailor Moon had transformation sequences for girls that were 14-16, not counting Setsuna's age. Still strange to watch, but at least I didn't feel like a pedophile, in contrast to Fate and Nanoha's transformation sequences in the first season and A's... then Erio and Caro in StrikerS.... ugh.

The age wasn't the issue for me in either. I don't care about transformation sequences (even if it involves younger characters, because dammit, I'm the only one whose gonna see it in this household anyway), so long as they don't happen every episode. Which got really old in Sailor Moon. It was just a way of filling up space so they didn't have to animate that much more, in my opinion. Same thing happened in G-Gundam; seeing Domon put on his Mobile Trace suit every episode got really old (never mind the fact that he's a guy and thus I'm not interested in seeing a naked guy stuffed into black spandex).

[RadiantBeam]

Originally Posted by mokoufanatic

dont worry most people wouldn't know that cause most people dont watch the first few episodes

Which is a shame, really, since they miss out on a lot of background exploration and development of the side characters.

[mokoufanatic]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

The age wasn't the issue for me in either. I don't care about transformation sequences (even if it involves younger characters, because dammit, I'm the only one whose gonna see it in this household anyway), so long as they don't happen every episode. Which got really old in Sailor Moon. It was just a way of filling up space so they didn't have to animate that much more, in my opinion. Same thing happened in G-Gundam; seeing Domon put on his Mobile Trace suit every episode got really old (never mind the fact that he's a guy and thus I'm not interested in seeing a naked guy stuffed into black spandex).

lol that is how i feel except it was the dragon ball series with the fight sequences

[leodamine]

Well, it's not that easy to convince people to watch the show from the beginning. A friend of mine is somewhat interested in watching this show (because I'm about to do another rewatch, which is rare for me) but, he's the kind of guy who only likes shows like TTGL. I told him not to even bother with it, which, is not cool on my part. Any idea how I can approach this without getting him to ragequit within the first 5 minutes?