Ore no Imouto - Light Novel & Manga Discussion Thread

[s0beit]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Part 2 Last Chapter

Spoiler for Part 2 Last Chapter:

- It was still a little bit of time left before the graduation ceremony. I left the lively classroom and strolled in the hallways.
- In the hallway the ruckus from each classroom could be faintly heard.
- The sound of shoes stepping on the lineleum floor truly can only be heard today.
- A special odor drifted through the school yard, when I've become an adult one day, I would still be able to remember it.
- .... when I was thinking about this being my last time here, sentimental feelings like that surfaced uncontrollably.
- At the time of the middle school graduation, I probably wasn't feeling that sentimental.
- At the time of elementary school graduation .... what was it like? I already couldn't remember it.
- From the windows the sun was shining in, with the look of springtime, and even though yesterday it was the same, it left a sence of reluctance to part.
- I slowly walked around this school yard I spent three years in.
- "....... oya, oya."
- Unwittingly I was standing before the door of the Game Research Club. Even though I visited it noticeably less often as of late, and only joined it in the third year, thus there shouldn't be anything worth remembering ---- why would that be, anyway.
- This place also contains many, many memories.

- [---- right, I like homos! I am completely rotten!]

- .... the first thing that I remembered was actually that! It indeed was a too shocking.
- Next

- [------- senpai]

- ".... hah"
- I couldn't help a self-ridiculing sound, honestly, what a guy I am.
- I reached out for the door.
- Even though I knew that at these times the door is locked, I still pulled at it with strength.
- Just like always...
- Kara
- "..... eh?"
- Why is this door open? ----- I didn't even have time to be surprised like that,
- "Ah, good morning ~ Kousaka-senpai."
- "Ya, Kousaka-kun."
- "Ou, brother! Didn't you arrive a little bit late!"
- One after the other greeted me.
- Makabe-kun, President, the other members... all were gathered there.
- "Ah, ah, ah... morning, Sena, Makabe-kun. Good morning ---- president"
- I still kept my opening-the-door stance and replied the greetings of the club members, then asked,
- "Why, why is everyone here?"
- "Could you please not ignore me!?"
- The one protesting with a tear in his eyes was Mikagami, who somehow wore our school uniform.
- "It isn't like I did not notice you~. Then let me ask tentatively, why is a non-member here? Don't you have school?"
- "The graduation ceremony of my school has already concluded yesterday. This is why I came over to congratulate the ones at the Game Research Club who have looked after me."
- "Huh ~ um~"
- The though process was right, the actions though a little bit odd. Mah, but for Mikagami, to get his hands on a school uniform is an easy thing.
- Ignoring Mikagami, Sena then also replied to my question.
- "As for me ---- I don't know why, but I just went towards the activities room. .... Then everybody was here...... hehe."
- "What.... so everybody was just like me."
- "Right. It seems like the people gathered here are all kind of similar."
- Sena and Makabe-kun looked at each other, smiling.
- He~ he~ their relationship is quite harmonious.
- "But ---- that you guys really ended up together."
- "Ahm... ahaha."
- Makabe-kun looked embarrassed, while Sena turned to one side and pouted.
- "What does that mean ~ this statement of yours."
- "No, nothing, but you see. I already thought that Makabe-kun, due to being the victim of Sena's wild imaginations, will never be able to develop romantic feelings."
- "Ahahahahaha....."
- Makabe-kun gave off a hallow laugh. Sena meanwhile poked his face with her finger and said
- "This is mutual! This guy looks nice on the surface, but in reality he is full of surprises and a gross otaku."
- He has no right to complain about me, that's what Sena meant.
- Mhm~ mhm~ the other guys in the Game Research Club nodded their heads in agreement.
- "Wait! Why is Mikagami also nodding!? Isn't it your fault, that looked like utterly shameless in front of the others!?"
- "Ah, ah.... right.... the Kaede-kun back then looked really fearsome~"
- In the past, Mikagami was entrusted by Makabe-kun to help with altering some figurines.
- Because Mikagami changed the big-breasted-Kiara figurine into flat-chested one without authorization, Makabe was very furious.
- [Hah? Hah! You cut it off? You actually cut off the biggest asset of that big-breasted Kiara figurine.....!? I will kill you fool who understands nothing! This aesthetic eye of yours has already rotted into a lolicon! I actually like boobs the most!]
- I remember that he even shouted out these kind of lines.
- Due to the moment of him being shocked by the destruction of his figurine, you think that you are on the same level? I'm stunned. (?)
- If one thinks of them as similar, then perhaps they are truly quite compatible.
- "Mah, no matter what, congratulations. ----- Good luck in your attempt to convice your aniki."
- "Yes! I will give it my best!"
- "Ho, good answer."
- "Can Kousaka-senpai also help convince my onii-chan"
- "Absolutely ~ not. I surely don't want to deal with an aniki whose imouto has found a boyfriend."
- ".... really, spoken in a real sense." (?)
- What do you care.
- "By the way, I heard something from Kirino-chan~"
- "Eh?"
- Sena whispered to me
- "Seems like siblings have become lovers."
- "Puh!"
- That girl really has told even Sena about it!
- No matter how to put it-----, it definitely can't be allowed to reach our parents.
- "Don't worry. I won't tell anybody."
- ".... that I can believe you. Speaking about it.... after hearing it, what's your opinion?"
- What Sena, who is an imouto with an aniki, thinks about me and Kirino's relationship ---- I'm quite interested in that.
- Sena answered very calmly,
- "Mhm.... if it's me and onii-chan ----- even if we drifted into that direction, it would be impossible."
- ".... I see."
- That's true.
- "But"
- Sena seems to have remembered something and shows a tough smile
- "If somebody told me something like a torrent, with a face full of happiness... neh --- it's up to you ---- it isn't something that is bad or so, then I would think about how to put him off.
- Sena and Makabe-kun looked at each other again, then she turned to me with a smile and said.
- "That's why you don't need to worry about us, Kousaka-senpai, good luck. What actions are truly the best, I don't know either .... I can't even say out a [congratulations].... but, I will cheer you on."
- "Ah, ah, thanks."
- Honestly. These words just now, how strongly did they really push me forward.

That is a Skype conversation I would like to have seen. I can only imagine the cuteness.

[Sakuratsuki]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

It's mostly just a translation issue. There's nothing about "you can comment your own views", he's just saying that he's adding his own comments as the author.

The question is commenting on how the end of the light novels has the feel of a galge, and the sense of a return to the start.

And the author says:
That's true. I wrote it to be similar to scenes from Volume 1. Writing an intense story that clearly goes down the forbidden path is really difficult in Dengeki Bunko, but given that I decided to give Kirino a happy ending, I still needed to set her future on as good a path as possible. It was extremely tricky. The result is as you can see in the book, but if I were to add my own redundant comments for those who want to re-read it, I would say:

- A Complete Kirino Ending
- Just like the Life Consultations that started it all, the story ends with the siblings having a shared secret.

That's what Volume 12 is about.


---

As he said, his summary doesn't really say anything the novel didn't already imply, but he just makes it a bit more clear that the Life Consultation at the end is because they have a new secret to share (linked to Kyousuke's kiss), and that the ending gives Kirino the happiest ending he figured he could get away with.

But, in the end, although this points to the author's intentions in writing it that way, it obviously still doesn't stop people from forming their own predictions about what they believe will happen after that.

I love this author even more. That totally confirms it for me. Live counseling is the key . Can't wait for his next work.

[zubalikei]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

It's mostly just a translation issue. There's nothing about "you can comment your own views", he's just saying that he's adding his own comments as the author.

The question is commenting on how the end of the light novels has the feel of a galge, and the sense of a return to the start.

And the author says:
That's true. I wrote it to be similar to scenes from Volume 1. Writing an intense story that clearly goes down the forbidden path is really difficult in Dengeki Bunko, but given that I decided to give Kirino a happy ending, I still needed to set her future on as good a path as possible. It was extremely tricky. The result is as you can see in the book, but if I were to add my own redundant comments for those who want to re-read it, I would say:

- A Complete Kirino Ending
- Just like the Life Consultations that started it all, the story ends with the siblings having a shared secret.

That's what Volume 12 is about.




---

As he said, his summary doesn't really say anything the novel didn't already imply, but he just makes it a bit more clear that the Life Consultation at the end is because they have a new secret to share (linked to Kyousuke's kiss), and that the ending gives Kirino the happiest ending he figured he could get away with.

But, in the end, although this points to the author's intentions in writing it that way, it obviously still doesn't stop people from forming their own predictions about what they believe will happen after that.

Thanks Virox and Relentlessflame.
I am more calm after your reponses.
I think a happy end to Kirino's point of view really would be stay together with who she loves. Its the reason because I strongly inclinated to believe that she and Kyousuke will develop more the romantic side of their relationship.
It not makes me totally satisfied but it was ever the most probably thing to happen.

Lets wait more news!

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

It's mostly just a translation issue. There's nothing about "you can comment your own views", he's just saying that he's adding his own comments as the author.

The question is commenting on how the end of the light novels has the feel of a galge, and the sense of a return to the start.

And the author says:
That's true. I wrote it to be similar to scenes from Volume 1. Writing an intense story that clearly goes down the forbidden path is really difficult in Dengeki Bunko, but given that I decided to give Kirino a happy ending, I still needed to set her future on as good a path as possible. It was extremely tricky. The result is as you can see in the book, but if I were to add my own redundant comments for those who want to re-read it, I would say:

- A Complete Kirino Ending
- Just like the Life Consultations that started it all, the story ends with the siblings having a shared secret.

That's what Volume 12 is about.


---

As he said, his summary doesn't really say anything the novel didn't already imply, but he just makes it a bit more clear that the Life Consultation at the end is because they have a new secret to share (linked to Kyousuke's kiss), and that the ending gives Kirino the happiest ending he figured he could get away with.

But, in the end, although this points to the author's intentions in writing it that way, it obviously still doesn't stop people from forming their own predictions about what they believe will happen after that.

Very happy with this conclusion as it supports our evidence from the final Volume.
Now to send off this great series,make sure you animate it completely,anything but that would be a disappointment.

[s0beit]

Also should be mentioned that their relationship was hardly a secret before, as they told [almost] everyone about it. I think there's only one shared secret they can have, but I wonder if people will deny it~

[seangel92]

Is this a win to the KirixKyosuke's fans?

[tommythecat]

Originally Posted by s0beit

Also should be mentioned that their relationship was hardly a secret before, as they told [almost] everyone about it. I think there's only one shared secret they can have, but I wonder if people will deny it~

I wonder who you mean

Edit: Also no one ever answered my question as to whether the marriage ceremony they had was a secret. (before you hit me for being stupid remember I'm waiting on full translations so details escape me)

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by tommythecat

Edit: Also no one ever answered my question as to whether the marriage ceremony they had was a secret. (before you hit me for being stupid remember I'm waiting on full translations so details escape me)

I'm still going to hit you for being stupid. This is a novel thread. Read the information presented about what's in the novels so you can be part of the discussion. If you won't read the novels or the summaries, then wait until the full translations before you participate in discussion or speculation, because otherwise you're operating without the necessary information to make informed commentary.

[seangel92]

I want to see all the cuteness of Vol.12 animated in 3 OVAs :3

[tommythecat]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

I'm still going to hit you for being stupid. This is a novel thread. Read the information presented about what's in the novels so you can be part of the discussion. If you won't read the novels or the summaries, then wait until the full translations before you participate in discussion or speculation, because otherwise you're operating without the necessary information to make informed commentary.

Nice, well hey man I've read a lot of the spoilers and some of the quick translations but excuse me for having opinions that don't match yours and wanting to read a translation that isn't done quickly. You've said many times we have to wait for the full translations to be sure about things.

Didn't even bother answering the question either

[kentasaiba]

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[Sakuratsuki]

Originally Posted by seangel92

Is this a win to the KirixKyosuke's fans?

Let me answer it this way. The author wanted to give kirino the best ending possible. In other words he wanted her to be happy. And what makes Kirino to be happy: to be with her onii chan forever (just like in her recordings).

So everyone his conclusion

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by tommythecat

Nice, well hey man I've read a lot of the spoilers and some of the quick translations but excuse me for having opinions that don't match yours and wanting to read a translation that isn't done quickly.

Nice try. This isn't even about "having options that don't match mine" or anyone else's. It's about your not reading up about the basic factual elements of the story (that I and others correct you on repeatedly), but still drawing wild conclusions and arguing about it anyway. It's a waste of everyone's time.

Once you read the story, and have evidence in the text, then come back and justify your claims. Otherwise, you're arguing theories and wilfully ignoring evidence. I could understand that at first, when details were sparse, but it's been a week now.

[seangel92]

Originally Posted by mayid

Let me answer it this way. The author wanted to give kirino the best ending possible. In other words he wanted her to be happy. And what makes Kirino to be happy: to be with her onii chan forever (just like in her recordings).

So everyone his conclusion

Happiness is invading me!

[tommythecat]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Nice try. This isn't even about "having options that don't match mine" or anyone else's. It's about your not reading up about the basic factual elements of the story (that I and others correct you on repeatedly), but still drawing wild conclusions and arguing about it anyway. It's a waste of everyone's time.

Once you read the story, and have evidence in the text, then come back and justify your claims. Otherwise, you're arguing theories and wilfully ignoring evidence.

How does knowing the major elements of the story already mean I have no room to discuss? Sorry but just because I don't know a detail in a 392 page translation shouldn't make me unable to participate and I've been pretty respectful of other peoples opinions. Because I interpret the story differently doesn't make me wrong, as well as not know every minute detail does not make me wrong. I simple asked whether the ceremony was a secret to everyone but Kirino and Kyousuke, instead you choose to berate me because you don't like what I have to say. If you don't like it then don't respond if I say something that is factually inaccurate that is fine correct me but most of the responses I've gotten from you tends to be your own conjecture about events and not a factual correction.

[DevG]

New episode tommarow! Lets see if i can read volume 3 from start to finish by tommarow :P

[seangel92]

Originally Posted by tommythecat

How does knowing the major elements of the story already mean I have no room to discuss? Sorry but just because I don't know a detail in a 392 page translation shouldn't make me unable to participate and I've been pretty respectful of other peoples opinions. Because I interpret the story differently doesn't make me wrong, as well as not know every minute detail does not make me wrong. I simple asked whether the ceremony was a secret to everyone but Kirino and Kyousuke, instead you choose to berate me because you don't like what I have to say. If you don't like it then don't respond if I say something that is factually inaccurate that is fine correct me but most of the responses I've gotten from you tends to be your own conjecture about events and not a factual correction.

The autor said that he wanted to give the best happy ending to Kirino and he did it but the rest is just for our imagination (how they gonna fight in secret with their love). He gave to Kirino that she wanted (Kyosuke love)

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by tommythecat

How does knowing the major elements of the story already mean I have no room to discuss? Sorry but just because I don't know a detail in a 392 page translation shouldn't make me unable to participate and I've been pretty respectful of other peoples opinions. Because I interpret the story differently doesn't make me wrong, as well as not know every minute detail does not make me wrong. I simple asked whether the ceremony was a secret to everyone but Kirino and Kyousuke, instead you choose to berate me because you don't like what I have to say. If you don't like it then don't respond if I say something that is factually inaccurate that is fine correct me but most of the responses I've gotten from you tends to be your own conjecture about events and not a factual correction.

You can interpret it the way you want,but I think you have something to do with moral issues which makes you not accept the ending although its CLEAR now,we have enough evidence throughout the Volumes to support it and there is no going back. Moral issues are hindering you from accepting the ending.

[s0beit]

Originally Posted by tommythecat

You've said many times we have to wait for the full translations to be sure about things.

Didn't even bother answering the question either

Pretty sure he can read Japanese, though...

[tommythecat]

Originally Posted by Wilshere

You can interpret it the way you want,but I think you have something to do with moral issues which makes you not accept the ending although its CLEAR now,we have enough evidence throughout the Volumes to support it and there is no going back. Moral issues are hindering you from accepting the ending.

Evidence is subject to interpretation, besides what ending is clear? That they love each other? I've not disagreed with that for a while once the quick translations came out. Where they go after the epilogue will never be clear but everyone will point to evidence that supports their thoughts about where it ultimately leads.