2008-10-10, 12:32 | Link #1 |
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Gundam 00 Mecha, Weapons, and Technology
As the title suggests, the purpose of this thread is to discuss the Gundam 00 Mecha, Weapons, and Technology
Please keep discussion about plot and storylines in the relevant Episode Discussion threads, not here. It's also a good idea that this thread discuss things that have shown up on the show or the manga - discussion of things that have only been announced should stay in the news thread. Note that because of the nature of this thread, there may be spoilers for non-anime Gundam 00 works. Please keep such spoilers to a minimum, and use well-titled spoiler tags whenever possible. [spoiler=title]Don't forget to use a title to let everyone know what you're spoiling![/spoiler] Be polite to your fellow forum members and try and keep the discussion on topic and above all, enjoy.
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2008-10-10, 13:11 | Link #5 |
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GN Science 101
Anyways, onto the GN Drives themselves, sometimes refered to as Solar Furnaces or Reactors in the dialogue. That said, we have to look at the GN Drives in the terms of a 'Reactor.' The Solar Furnace may be a reference to part of the reaction catalysts or environment, but calling it a Drive is a non sequitur, other then the fact that it 'drives' the suit's systems.
What information we have been given on the GN Drives, states that they "harnesses the photon and positron discharge of the non-evaporative decay of baryonic matter as an energy source." GN Particles are a byproduct of this process. Now, I will say it's disappointing, surfing the web and finding people supposing that simply because the dialogue, in reference to GN Tau Drives states that they are required to 'recharge' after certain period of time is likely inaccurate by translation. More accurately, it's likely 'refueled.' Stop and think about it. Why would you 'charge' a generator in any electrical generation system? And make no mistake, that is what we are talking about; an electrical system. Generators typically produce electrical power, not require it to run. Otherwise it's nothing but a glorified battery. And GN Drives, like any reactor, would require 'fuel.' In this case, in the form of some type of non-specified baryonic matter to be used in whatever reaction takes place within the core GN Element. But we need to get away from this misconception that the Gundams and other GN Mobilesuits are powered by GN Particles. Yes, GN Particles are a major component in many of the operations of these suit's systems. But by and large, most of the systems are run by the Electricity produced by the GN Reaction. GN Particles are either used to reinforce armor, jam communications and sensors, possibly aide in the impulse propulsion systems of the suit, aswell as the weapons systems, for either shooting or cutting. There are any number of other systems, like computer, sensors, communications, bipedal drive locomotion, ect that run on electrical power, and electrical power alone. ... -grumbling- Alright, I'm going on 20 hours awake, so my focus is kinda lax... But I guess this is all a start for the thread, eh? |
2008-10-10, 13:19 | Link #6 | |
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I think Japanese scientist are working on that project. Wikipedia has stated Japan scientist are working on weapon or defense system that use Dragoon-like system. Maybe right now they build gundam-like mecha in their underground facility. |
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2008-10-10, 13:20 | Link #7 |
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On the use of GN particles in weapons. What's not really clear to me is if the various weapons are tapping directly into the suits generator thus having an almost infinite source of particles or are they stored in battery line devices (UC = e-caps). Now we did see the GN Flag have it's beam saber linked via cable to it's GN drive (ala Epyon).
It's a minor point but limited ammo was one thing that made the previous gundams feel more "real type" instead of "super robot". |
2008-10-10, 13:33 | Link #8 | |
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We have to remember, that these GN Drives are pepetual reactors. Even though they might be set to an idled state, drawing little from the GN Reaction, they're always producing power and GN Particles. Those particles either have to be stored, or vented. But we've also seen the GN Reaction magnified during extreme use, such as Exia in Moraillia and Virtue blowing the stuffing out of the Asteroid durring Operation Fallen Angels. Just because there's a type of GN Battery between the drive and the weapon, doesn't mean the flow from one to the other is slowed down simply because the battery is there. But from an engineering standpoint, you'd want that capacitor there to smooth the transfer and prevent overloads. |
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2008-10-10, 13:34 | Link #9 |
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Gundam that use GN Drive Alpha has unlimited operation time but their pilot don't. Maybe the pilot make the gundam in 00 series a "real robot" instead of "super robot".
Many people say SFreedom is "super robot",hopefully someone crazier than Rau Le Cruset own it in Seed movie. |
2008-10-10, 15:18 | Link #17 | |
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Besides, why would the Federation ever want mobile suits to be able to act independently? It's far better to control the spread of the new generation of mobile weapons by controlling 95% of the energy that would be necessary to power the units. |
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2008-10-10, 15:29 | Link #18 | |
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2008-10-10, 15:37 | Link #19 | |
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(Federation office A: "Hey! Lets make deathbots that are programmed to kill every living thing they come across with high caliber automatic weapons!" Federation officer B: "Brilliant!") In other words, you can always deal with lower operational time by having standby units, and deal with a single powerful enemy by having multiple weaker units. So the Federation has no real need to make the weapons more powerful by putting themselves in the dangerous position of making the weapons autonomous. |
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