2006-09-03, 16:33 | Link #41 |
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Well, the way the strike rouge got totalled was totally due to equipment problems. First remember there are 50~ enemies around with an underpowered big ship to protect, that kira needs to block an attack for eternal is not that surprising. The shield for the rouge simply is not up to par with impulse's, so it got totalled. Now, nobody can do anything about that as a pilot, unless they have massive plot chakra to channel to the shield . Then Kira was pretty defenseless without the gun and the shield, and was trying to get back to the ship. So he got shot from behind when he's not looking, that's no big deal, just a small twist to take up time.
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2006-09-03, 16:36 | Link #42 | |
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Not to mention that Impulse has technically a longer operation time since it both has a Hyper Deuterion battery, which can store a higher amount of energy compared to the conventional models, VPS and Hyper Deuterion Beam Power Transmission System. SR only has VPS - it seems that it replaced GS' 'power extender' or it simply has changed names.
Strike Rouge would be the first to power down in a battle with Impulse, should they both fight each other to a standstill and dredge themself into a battle of attrition. And...it's not like SR has chest and legs flyers to replace damaged parts. But should we exclude the Minerva's presence somewhere near the battlefield, pilots skills aside, Impulse has the technological upper hand. Quote:
...But then again, Strike's shield still stood its ground against a full-fledged Lohengrin blast...so: ZAKU Gunner's gun = Lohengrin?
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2006-09-03, 16:45 | Link #43 | |
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Pound for pound, every version of the Impulse is superior to Strike Rouge. It can outgun it, it can outfly it, it can outstab it, it can outlast it. The Igelstellungs in Rouge have difficulties penetrating GINN armor, while Impulse's CIWS make swiss cheese out of Dagger II's - you DON'T want to power down while fighting Impulse, and even if the pilot is outstanding that's bound to happen sooner or later. Quote:
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2006-09-03, 16:49 | Link #45 |
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Strike's shield is basically a metal plate, but since impulse's shield is shown to have green chak...er..field around it we could presume that it is of a higher level. The scene itself was really plot based, since there should be more attacks coming from 50+ enemy units. Maybe they got lazy drawing a strike with pink shield and just want to get out the S-F in time for lacus dust pwnage.
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2006-09-03, 17:01 | Link #47 | |
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Strike Rouge isn't really an upgrade of the Strike it just has more batteries IIRC and besides it only has one kind of equipment the Aile pack. Indeed it has the same stuff as Force Impulse but it's at least 2 years old and in C.E that is a bit long.Even though Impulse is obviously based on Strike I think that its performance has been tuned up compared to the Strike. What's the point in keeping Strike Rouge now? Scenario wise it had to be smashed up so that Kira could get into his new MS X20A Strike Freedom and that also opened a path for Akatsuki Of course Kira could trash those grunts but Strike's rouge armament is weak it's not really what Kira uses normally Kira the Spamminator lol |
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2006-09-03, 17:28 | Link #48 | |
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I guess that 'power extender' was changed into VPS in SEED Destiny...but it still remains that it cannot match or outlast Impulse's Hyper Deuterion batteries...and VPS.
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2006-09-03, 18:03 | Link #49 | |
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either way it will run a bit longer right? by the way what does VPS stand for ? |
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2006-09-03, 18:14 | Link #51 | |
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Aren't the VPS and weapons linked to the batteries so if you use the beam gun and the beam sword much it will end up draining the batteries right? |
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2006-09-03, 20:08 | Link #52 | |
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2006-09-04, 05:30 | Link #53 | |
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yes that seems true it seems like Strike Freedom and ∞ Justice have no power issues while Destiny runs out of power if Wings of Light are often used I think Strike Freedom and ∞ Justice reactor's are based on their former suits while Destiny and Legend are based on a completely different thing |
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2006-09-04, 05:32 | Link #54 | |
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2006-09-04, 05:50 | Link #55 |
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...Could you please specify what you're talking about?
I recall from somewhere (I think it was speculation, I don't remember if it ever was confirmed) that ZGMF-X numbers were reorganized according to the series/class they belonged to: - 20 series: air superiority MS - 30 series: naval superiority MS - 40 series: multipurpose/conventional MS - 50 series: transformable/combining MS - 60 series: DRAGOON-enabled MS? - 70 series: ?? - 80 series: ground superiority / multilegged MS Note: I can't vouch for this since I don't remember it being part of official spoilers or info. However, according to GundamOfficial EA reorganized its GAT-X series into three classes, based on the MS' frames: - 100 series: conventional MSes with one-block frame. - 200 series: Mirage Colloid/magnetic field technology-enabled MS - 300 series: transformable MS The suffixes 'A', 'S' and 'T' are respectively for 'atomic-powered' (although it should be 'nuclear-powered'), 'secondary stage' (Hyper Deuterion batteries) and 'third stage'. According to the Destiny model package, Durandal made ZAFT's engineers change the 'A' behind the -X42 to 'S' so as to hide the fact that it had a nuclear reactor and show that he was circumventing (much like EA, on top of using Mirage Colloid technology for the WoLs) the J7 treaty. ...Which means that Destiny was already in ZAFT's armories by the time EA attacked Armory One since the J7 treaty went through the window right after that, otherwise Durandal wouldn't have cared less about an umpteenth infringement of a now bygone treaty.
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2006-09-04, 06:01 | Link #56 |
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Wasn't Destiny made (at any rate, started) before the treaty, then shelved when they realised they'd need the newly forbidden nuclear power? And, uh, completed when the fit hit the shan, so that they were allowed to put in a nuclear power supply?
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2006-09-04, 07:08 | Link #57 | |
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2006-09-04, 10:09 | Link #59 | |
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And ZGMF-X19A, those classifications are only for the Second Stage suits. |
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2006-09-04, 10:31 | Link #60 | |
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ok thanks for the info I don't think Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice plans were part of ZAFT they were made by Terminal of course heavily based on Freedom and Justice and Destiny I'm not so sure either since the Chairman did say that Destiny was designed for Shin |
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