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[Titan] · 2003-11-06, 18:26

I just noticed some (new?) button at the bottom of my post, and I don't recall seeing that there before. Something about "add post to reputation". I also noted the reputation thing in my Profile, but it seems to be disabled.

So, what's the deal with this reputation thing? Is it enabled? How does it work?

Thanks in advance

NoSanninWa · 2003-11-06, 18:26

I notice that GHDPro has just enabled the user reputation on the forum. This enables people to rate each other's posts. (There's a new icon next to reply.) Positive feedback will raise reputation while negative feedback will lower it. You can only rate each post once. I've also noticed that there is a choice under user options to make reputation visible to others...

I'm curious what other people think about this forum feature.

Is it a good thing?
Do you want others to know your reputation?
It displayed as a colored dot (bar?) under your avatar. Black is disabled, green (maybe other colors?) seems to be enabled?
Do you think everyone's reputation should be automatically visible without an option to turn it off?
Do you think this feature should be disabled.
Do you think this feature will be abused or misused?
Like someone purposefully searching for every post someone made just so that they can rate it badly to lower reputation.

I'd also like it if someone can tell me more about what reputation is and how it is used. Unfortunately I know very little about it. Has anyone else seen this feature used on another VB3 board? If so, how did it work out?

Edit: I just noticed that [Titan] Created a similar thread less than a minute before I created mine.

I merged the two to prevent confusion.

[Titan] · 2003-11-06, 18:32

good thing?
Time will tell...

Others to know my reputation?
Sure, I've got nothing to hide

As long as it's a bit out of the picture, I'd like to see it next to my post, but not as a huge coloured bar, something a bit more subtle would be nice. (in order to prevent competition)

Automaticaly visible?
erm, after NoSanninWa's explanation, no

Should it be disabled?
Let's try it, it can always be turned off if things don't work out.

Abuse?
Again, time will tell...

NoSanninWa · 2003-11-06, 18:34

Ummm... you seem to misunderstand one of my questions. By automatically visible, I meant that you wouldn't be able to turn it off... after all, someone can always turn it off if their reputaion begins to suffer. Then would it mean anything? Or would people who turn off their reputation be suspected?

Incidently a little experimentation and looking at the mod control panel has revealed that reputation begins at 10 and is raised or lowered by 1 point for each feedback. (I can find an exact number instead of a slowly growing bar.)

Do you dare to find out how others rate you by turning it on?

Lefteris_D · 2003-11-06, 18:51

Ratings are bad. They may seem like a good thing at first but they always turn bad.

Flash_Squirrel · 2003-11-06, 19:22

No harm in trying it a little bit.
If it turns out to be a defective feature, Im pretty sure we will deactivate it.

AG3 · 2003-11-06, 19:45

Well, I doubt that everyone is mature enough to use this feature properly. For some people, it's all too easy to negatively rate any post where others disagree with them, regardless of how good, factual and well written the post is. Some people just can't stand others disagreeing with them.

But sure, let's try it for a while.

SirJeannot · 2003-11-06, 19:50

just made a comment for flashmolester

dunno what it is for .. but why not?

edit: let's try it then, and see if it "works"

Flash_Squirrel · 2003-11-06, 19:54

Ehh, how do I read comments now? (>")>

SirJeannot · 2003-11-06, 19:56

i don't have the slightest clue ^^

Flash_Squirrel · 2003-11-06, 20:04

Ah, cool..
User CP --> first page, there is a list with all the comments.

Ah, Im not a molester BTW.

The Small One · 2003-11-06, 20:45

You may also read the comments by clicking on the rating-icon of the post to which the comment was given...
Actually I think this is a nice idea because trolls can easily be identified, presumed that there is enough feedback.
And I think the creators of the board have thought a while about how to implement it so that it is fair.
Actually we have nothing to loose by trying the feature, if it gets abused it can still be deactivated, or not?

Edit: Maybe "I approve"/"I disapprove" aren't really good choices; probably something like "This post was useful"/"unnecessary" would be better.

And: Why is it disabled per default?

NoSanninWa · 2003-11-06, 21:09

I just stumbled into a balance that checks the reputation system. It seems that it doesn't let you do things that are too much out of line, like rate only a single person. It is starting to look better to me.

Shii · 2003-11-06, 21:16

This is available on ChristianForums (don't ask me why I post at ChristianForums... X_x) and it works quite well.

Forse · 2003-11-06, 21:32

I think it's useless, but sure it's fun to play with as long as it's not abused.

AG3 · 2003-11-06, 22:08

There's another thing I was wondering about: The use for this feature. Is there limit to the number of ratings you can do per hour or day? I think there should be.

The thing is what the members of the forums think this feature is for. I'm sure some will try to rate every single post they read; "I think this one's good, so is this, this one's a little bad" etc. While other, dare I say "more sensible" people, will rate only posts they find exceptional, be it good or bad, posts that stand out from the crowd, that there is special reason to rate. Posts that add to (or detract from) the overall quality of the forums. I think such a use would be a lot more useful for this board.

kcl822 · 2003-11-06, 23:52

I think that this feature should be disabled for it is very easy to abuse it (same with the post count-last time it created so many useless threads and posts that it was impossible to tell which one was worth reading). I know that there are some good points about it, but unfortunately, in the real world, there are more "bad" people than "good" people.

The Small One · 2003-11-07, 03:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by AG3

There's another thing I was wondering about: The use for this feature. Is there limit to the number of ratings you can do per hour or day? I think there should be.

AFAIK there is a limit of 10 ratings per day per default and you can only rate the person a second time, after I think 20 others rated the same person in the meanwhile... or was it like you have to rate 20 others until you can rate this person again?

However, to all those people fearing that the feature could be abused: Like I already wrote I'm pretty sure the developpers thought about all this possibilities and made it hard to abuse it.

BTW, I think the fullquote-checkbox in the quick reply field is worth more worries.

SirJeannot · 2003-11-07, 04:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash_Squirrel

Ah, cool..

User CP --> first page, there is a list with all the comments.

Ah, Im not a molester BTW.

he he

***GHDpro*** · 2003-11-07, 05:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

I notice that GHDPro has just enabled the user reputation on the forum. This enables people to rate each other's posts. (There's a new icon next to reply.) Positive feedback will raise reputation while negative feedback will lower it. You can only rate each post once. I've also noticed that there is a choice under user options to make reputation visible to others...

I'm curious what other people think about this forum feature.

Is it a good thing?
Do you want others to know your reputation?
It displayed as a colored dot (bar?) under your avatar. Black is disabled, green (maybe other colors?) seems to be enabled?
Do you think everyone's reputation should be automatically visible without an option to turn it off?
Do you think this feature should be disabled.
Do you think this feature will be abused or misused?
Like someone purposefully searching for every post someone made just so that they can rate it badly to lower reputation.

I'd also like it if someone can tell me more about what reputation is and how it is used. Unfortunately I know very little about it. Has anyone else seen this feature used on another VB3 board? If so, how did it work out?

Edit: I just noticed that [Titan] Created a similar thread less than a minute before I created mine.

I merged the two to prevent confusion.

Now this is odd, because... I really can't remember turning the reputation system on.
So my guess is somebody else did.

[...checking Administrator logs...]

Seems like Mb81 has been doing a TON of changes to my forum.

2003-11-06, 18:26	Link #1
[Titan] Tenshi Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Heaven Age: 40	Reputation I just noticed some (new?) button at the bottom of my post, and I don't recall seeing that there before. Something about "add post to reputation". I also noted the reputation thing in my Profile, but it seems to be disabled. So, what's the deal with this reputation thing? Is it enabled? How does it work? Thanks in advance

2003-11-06, 18:26	Link #2
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	Reputation I notice that GHDPro has just enabled the user reputation on the forum. This enables people to rate each other's posts. (There's a new icon next to reply.) Positive feedback will raise reputation while negative feedback will lower it. You can only rate each post once. I've also noticed that there is a choice under user options to make reputation visible to others... I'm curious what other people think about this forum feature. Is it a good thing? Do you want others to know your reputation? It displayed as a colored dot (bar?) under your avatar. Black is disabled, green (maybe other colors?) seems to be enabled? Do you think everyone's reputation should be automatically visible without an option to turn it off? Do you think this feature should be disabled. Do you think this feature will be abused or misused? Like someone purposefully searching for every post someone made just so that they can rate it badly to lower reputation. I'd also like it if someone can tell me more about what reputation is and how it is used. Unfortunately I know very little about it. Has anyone else seen this feature used on another VB3 board? If so, how did it work out? Edit: I just noticed that [Titan] Created a similar thread less than a minute before I created mine. I merged the two to prevent confusion. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2003-11-06, 18:34	Link #4
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	Ummm... you seem to misunderstand one of my questions. By automatically visible, I meant that you wouldn't be able to turn it off... after all, someone can always turn it off if their reputaion begins to suffer. Then would it mean anything? Or would people who turn off their reputation be suspected? Incidently a little experimentation and looking at the mod control panel has revealed that reputation begins at 10 and is raised or lowered by 1 point for each feedback. (I can find an exact number instead of a slowly growing bar.) Do you dare to find out how others rate you by turning it on? __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2003-11-06, 18:51	Link #5
Lefteris_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 41	Ratings are bad. They may seem like a good thing at first but they always turn bad. __________________ ...

2003-11-06, 19:45	Link #7
AG3 Inactive ex-WoW addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Trondheim, Norway Age: 44	Well, I doubt that everyone is mature enough to use this feature properly. For some people, it's all too easy to negatively rate any post where others disagree with them, regardless of how good, factual and well written the post is. Some people just can't stand others disagreeing with them. But sure, let's try it for a while. __________________ Is this why dubs suck?

2003-11-06, 18:32	Link #3
[Titan] Tenshi Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Heaven Age: 40	good thing? Time will tell... Others to know my reputation? Sure, I've got nothing to hide As long as it's a bit out of the picture, I'd like to see it next to my post, but not as a huge coloured bar, something a bit more subtle would be nice. (in order to prevent competition) Automaticaly visible? erm, after NoSanninWa's explanation, no Should it be disabled? Let's try it, it can always be turned off if things don't work out. Abuse? Again, time will tell...

2003-11-06, 19:22	Link #6
Flash_Squirrel F&C Fanboy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saiph	No harm in trying it a little bit. If it turns out to be a defective feature, Im pretty sure we will deactivate it.

2003-11-06, 19:50	Link #8
SirJeannot AT Field Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: #animesuki Age: 14	just made a comment for flashmolester dunno what it is for .. but why not? edit: let's try it then, and see if it "works" __________________ "facts Jeremy, facts!" - non factual Jeremy. Last edited by SirJeannot; 2003-11-06 at 19:51. Reason: didn't read grumpy hat post

2003-11-06, 19:54	Link #9
Flash_Squirrel F&C Fanboy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saiph	Ehh, how do I read comments now? (>")>

2003-11-06, 19:56	Link #10
SirJeannot AT Field Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: #animesuki Age: 14	i don't have the slightest clue ^^ __________________ "facts Jeremy, facts!" - non factual Jeremy.

2003-11-06, 20:04	Link #11
Flash_Squirrel F&C Fanboy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saiph	Ah, cool.. User CP --> first page, there is a list with all the comments. Ah, Im not a molester BTW.

2003-11-06, 20:45	Link #12
The Small One Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Germany	You may also read the comments by clicking on the rating-icon of the post to which the comment was given... Actually I think this is a nice idea because trolls can easily be identified, presumed that there is enough feedback. And I think the creators of the board have thought a while about how to implement it so that it is fair. Actually we have nothing to loose by trying the feature, if it gets abused it can still be deactivated, or not? Edit: Maybe "I approve"/"I disapprove" aren't really good choices; probably something like "This post was useful"/"unnecessary" would be better. And: Why is it disabled per default? Last edited by The Small One; 2003-11-06 at 21:17.

2003-11-06, 21:09	Link #13
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	I just stumbled into a balance that checks the reputation system. It seems that it doesn't let you do things that are too much out of line, like rate only a single person. It is starting to look better to me. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2003-11-06, 21:16	Link #14
Shii Afflicted by the vanities Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fish-shape Paumanok Age: 36	This is available on ChristianForums (don't ask me why I post at ChristianForums... X_x) and it works quite well. __________________ Learn to define and spell moé Shii (formerly known as ashibaka)

2003-11-06, 21:32	Link #15
Forse r00t for life Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: /dev/null	I think it's useless, but sure it's fun to play with as long as it's not abused.

2003-11-06, 22:08	Link #16
AG3 Inactive ex-WoW addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Trondheim, Norway Age: 44	There's another thing I was wondering about: The use for this feature. Is there limit to the number of ratings you can do per hour or day? I think there should be. The thing is what the members of the forums think this feature is for. I'm sure some will try to rate every single post they read; "I think this one's good, so is this, this one's a little bad" etc. While other, dare I say "more sensible" people, will rate only posts they find exceptional, be it good or bad, posts that stand out from the crowd, that there is special reason to rate. Posts that add to (or detract from) the overall quality of the forums. I think such a use would be a lot more useful for this board. __________________ Is this why dubs suck?

2003-11-06, 23:52	Link #17
kcl822 Queen of the Underworld Fansubber Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere in Hell	I think that this feature should be disabled for it is very easy to abuse it (same with the post count-last time it created so many useless threads and posts that it was impossible to tell which one was worth reading). I know that there are some good points about it, but unfortunately, in the real world, there are more "bad" people than "good" people.