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2007-05-10, 08:32 | Link #163 | |
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I do belive that the inital exhaustion is due to her not customed to the energy drain by RH, after she is adpted to it she is fine. I belive this was implied when they only showed Nanoha exhausted after a sealing for the first few Eps |
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2007-05-10, 08:34 | Link #164 | |
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By the timeline in A's, she was used to it. Cheers.
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2007-05-10, 08:50 | Link #166 | |
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It is implied in the novel that Nanoha at least planned SLB up with alot of thought since one of the requirments for SLB is magical particles distributed in a way that is easy for recollection. |
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2007-05-10, 10:30 | Link #167 |
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Going into artificial life and the replicate theme in MGLN:
In S1 there was Fate as an augmented clone and introduced the concept of intelligent devices. Arf can also be considered an artificial lifeform because of her status as a familiar. S2 pushed it a little further with the Wolkenritter. The guardians show the full range of human emotion, independent thought through their rebellion and packed into a physical body. Sentient entities of tremendous power, their individual personalities are likely flawless copies of the Tome of the Nightsky's original guardians. Ageless, immortal and virtually indestructable due to their link to the book- they would rank amongst the most powerful humanoid replicates ever created. On a lighter note, we can safely call Rein II Carbon Copy [C.C. ] S3 has thus far been showcasing a growing war between man and machine. Hints have so far led back to the artificial life experiments that created Fate. What is Fate exactly? Is she Human or a Perfect machine? One that is able to physically mature and have emotions, yet fights with superhuman speed, focus and precision. Thoughts here because the lack of information means the girl can be either. [my money is on another breed of human, unless they show the growing up bit to be part of the program ] |
2007-05-10, 18:15 | Link #168 |
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Well, in S2 Lindy did tell Fate that she was fully biologically human, and the only difference was that she had been born a different way, so I'd think that Fate is just a genetically modified test tube baby rather than any sort of a organic robot or anything more exotic....
Although with this "Project F" thing in the latest episode, I have a feeling that there will be a little more to it than that, but anything beyond this is just going to be speculation as nothing has been revealed as of yet. |
2007-05-11, 10:31 | Link #169 |
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Going upon my magic-circle=computer theory, I'm going to expand on it: First and foremost, I didn't mean it literally but metaphorically. Thinking the circle itself as a computer chip rather than a computer in its entirely, we could think the circles that are a part of the magic circle to be individual processing units. The band that connects the smaller circles together could be considered the connecters between the processors. The processing units work together to convert magical energy into actual magic. This would mean that there would be many different possible types of magic circles. The common Mid-Childa and Belka styles of magic circles would probably be ones that have proven efficiency and power, not to mention many of the spells are probably based on these standards. The Mid-Childa circle has a central circle in the middle, with an outside circle containing four more circles, each containing a symbol. The circle in the middle is a small "band" surrounded by a larger band on the outside. In addition to transfering magical energy around, these could also double as processors. The smaller one with its tighter band creates the "core" of the spell, while the larger one adds to the spell with the other four processors. This can create spells with a wide variety of effects, but would be generally slower to start up. In contrast, the Belka has only four circles period, of roughly equal size all connected together. The each have a dedicated band connecting to each other circle, which can equate to faster transfer of magical energy and more coherency. Again, there's one main circle in the middle and this time three supports. This probably can translate into faster processing of power, but at the expense of more added effects to the spell. …though I just made all this up, how's it for a theory? |
2007-05-11, 10:43 | Link #170 |
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As a theory, very well. I had the same idea about the magic arrays, as circuits using magic as energy conduits, and that their shape determined the magic functions they can perform. Although yours is the first time anyone has tried to explain the actual geometry as it applied to the spells themselves.
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2007-06-01, 21:32 | Link #171 | |
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Like for example, Halo. Even a beginner could tell you that the Elite's shield goes down faster when you're using plasma weapons. But people still uses conventional weapons because it does more damage to their unprotected bodies. Same case here. Magic does more damage to magic base properties, while physical does more damage to physical base properties.
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2007-06-01, 21:36 | Link #172 |
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Continuing from Episode 09 discussionBarrier jacket also uses barriers and fields for defense. In other words, there's more than you can see.
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2007-06-01, 21:45 | Link #173 | |
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Falling from that height could also be lethal... And even if Mach Caliber could save her by creating another wing road, the threat of the Drones was still at large. Either way, I can't imagine it to be a pleasant experience
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2007-06-01, 21:48 | Link #174 | |
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But certainly not for elemental or physical damage. Take Fate's injury to the leg in A's when fighting Signum in planet X. Her barrier jacket seemed ok.
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2007-06-02, 01:52 | Link #176 | ||
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You cannot use physic to explain the balls, which are by right magic-base in property. (As in they're created by magic) Hitting the ball with her hammer is like a program that triggers the attack. It's the 'starting' move. Quote:
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2007-06-02, 02:40 | Link #177 | |
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I find hitting a ball with a hammer to be far more believable then that. @Magic damage versus Physical damage. I'm still saying this whole 'attacking the soul, not the body' stuff is rubish. We know magic deals damage on a physical damage (if it hurts, the damage is physical. The method, however, is magical). Back to punch references: I can punch someone so hard, that I break the bones in his body. I can also punch someone so softly that he merely falls down, or falls unconcious without bleeding. Why the hell would I regulate my punches to attack his soul, needlesly complicating everything, if I can merley hit him hard enough to fall unconcious? The beam of energy makes a physical impact, which delivers a physical blow. The barrier jacket makes sure that said physical blow does not tear through the body. Of course, the blow can tear through and destroy the body as well, as long as the caster puts in enough energy. |
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A spell, created by magic, can damage an object Physically, magically, or even both properties. It's all depends on what the user wants. Quote:
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Oh, another example: Nanoha fighting Vita the first time. Nanoha was confused as to why Vita was attacking her, and retaliated. Seeing Nanoha's personallity, she would not go for a deathblow without knowing why Vita attacked her. Now, according to the 'attacking the soul' theory, this would be the perfect time to attack the soul. But wait! What happens? Vita's hat is torn to shreds. That means this attack delivered physical damage through magical means, as the hat should have remained untouched. |
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Attacking someone's soul comes handy when you want him unconscious but with the body left all clean and shiny Anyway I myself find the conception "99.99% of the damage dealt by that huge pink beam which caused an explosion a 10-megaton warhead could only dream of and a 30-m tsunami was purely magical so everyone is barely scratched but unconscious" is totally lame. Just posting arguments for fun |
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