2012-09-21, 00:52 | Link #81 | |
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A lot better than learning them in Churches, which is majority of the case in the West, in my opinion.
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2012-09-21, 01:17 | Link #83 |
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But that's the thing. Isn't this the kind of thing you learn on a normal social environment? The only way you wouldn't know what constitutes common sense would be if you were an extremely sheltered child.
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2012-09-21, 01:29 | Link #87 |
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I'm not talking about Japan. I'm talking about the world. A child may understand common sense without going to school. So long as they live with their families and friends, they will surely learn common sense and morality. Perhaps the latter not in the same degree as a properly educated kid, though.
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2012-09-21, 01:44 | Link #89 |
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But.... we are.
I was replying to someone who said there's no moral education in Japan. I told him he's wrong, it's actually a required class in Japan. We're talking about Japan. If you're not, then you're butting in with unrelated topic to the current discourse.
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2012-09-21, 01:52 | Link #90 | ||
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Compare the above to Germany, where the rate ranges from a high of 19.8 per 100,000 in 2003 to a low of 13.7 per 100,000 in 2009. Curiously, there was again an increase between 2009 and 2010, from 13.7 to 14.4. Sweden presents an unexpected contrast. The rate of sexual violence against children there ranges from 37.1 per 100,000 in 2005 to a "shocking" 73.6 per 100,000 in 2010. The footnotes point out that there has been changes in definitions and/or counting rules, which may explain the alarming spike. Back in 2003, Sweden's rate of sexual violence against children was a more "normal" 5.2 per 100,000. So, right away, these figures highlight something of great concern whenever we look at these studies. The UNOCD wisely makes this very clear in its footnotes to the data: Quote:
It comes back to what SeijiSensei had correctly observed: There is an extremely high chance of selection bias when we look at such data. I would very much hesitate to definitively claim that "more porn means less sex crimes". But, of course, the converse is also true: "More porn doesn't necessarily mean more sex crime." In the end, we just don't know for sure, and have to rely more heavily on local knowledge of the circumstances of each specific country when passing judgment. And, as for "moral education" classes, they're pretty common. I had those too, at pre-primary and primary school. In my case, the focus was on Confucianist virtues, though of course they weren't packaged as such in the textbooks. There was, for example, material about filial piety, that is, how we should show respect for parents and elders. How we should be honest and not steal, for example. They aren't moral education in the sense that we weren't taught moral philosophy, and we certainly didn't debate major moral questions. And there was certainly no mention at all of sexual morality, be it in a Confucian context or not. Last edited by TinyRedLeaf; 2012-09-21 at 02:10. |
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2012-09-21, 02:18 | Link #94 | |
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Random conspiracy theory: Could it be because of yakuza links to government? Just floating that up out of curiosity. I'm by no means suggesting that it is even remotely true. |
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2012-09-21, 02:19 | Link #95 | |
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All I can think of is there never had been a major issue with it because the line between modelling and pornography was definite. Most actual representation child porn that initially spread in Japan were made from outside of Japan, and then it spread into domestic versions. |
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2012-09-21, 02:20 | Link #97 |
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Child pornography banning laws are welcomed in Japan, and would get support of the majority no problem.
The problem is, they keep trying to include FICTIONAL depiction in the law. Because you know, a child drawn on paper has human rights. /sarcasm If they didn't so insistently include that retarded section, the law would have passed ages ago. Yeah, I'm talking to you Ishihara. Which is funny, becuase I'm reluctantly defending his rights in another thread right now.
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2012-09-21, 02:46 | Link #99 | ||
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Instituting laws only forces it underground. It is kind of a tricky issue because ethics and moral education may not have any effect on a society that prizes good grades over proper ethics in life. You can't inject conscience into a child without letting him experience the short end of the stick (not intended to sound twice as wrong as it is, so don't read between the lines). Sex education is certainly one hell of a tricky issue. Quote:
There is a fine difference between people who prefer small-sized women and sexually-motivated pedophiles. Putting them under the same banner of shotacon/lolicon is demeaning.
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2012-09-21, 06:21 | Link #100 |
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Be carefull about such idea, you would have to establish clear and fixe parameters of what would be condidered ''petite'' sized. Age restriction is simple and clear, size restriction would be a nightmare.
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