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View Poll Results: Who is the ultimate shinobi? | |||
The 1st | 24 | 5.99% | |
The 2nd | 3 | 0.75% | |
Sarutobi | 117 | 29.18% | |
The 4th | 119 | 29.68% | |
Jiraiya | 27 | 6.73% | |
Orochimaru | 10 | 2.49% | |
Tsunde | 4 | 1.00% | |
Itachi | 73 | 18.20% | |
Other...[Please State Who] | 24 | 5.99% | |
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2004-05-23, 09:23 | Link #81 | |
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2004-05-23, 09:41 | Link #82 |
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It's not that Itachi's not strong, it's just that I don't think he's as strong as Itachi fanboys make him out to be.
Is he stronger than Oro? Oro thinks so...after all, he's a jutsu-whore and who would be a worse opponent for a jutsu-whore than a Sharingan master? Is he stronger than Jiraiya? *shrugs* We haven't seen enough of him to know, so...who knows? Personally, I don't think he's QUITE at Jiraiya's capabilties - but being not quite Jiraiya means you're still better than 80-90% of the ninja population - so what's wrong with that? |
2004-05-23, 10:38 | Link #83 | |
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All seems to be different translations to me, I just went with the ones I remember most. |
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2004-05-23, 10:52 | Link #84 | |||||
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raikage, see, I don't care if others think Jiraiya is stronger by opinion (hell, I even share it!); it's when that they try to justify it with this absurd notion of "fear" that I simply cannot agree with.
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2004-05-23, 11:13 | Link #85 | |
KAWAIII-III!!!! >^_^ >
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2004-05-23, 11:13 | Link #86 |
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Havent read through the whole tread, so ppl don’t be mad with me if I repeat this. From the manga series, and I don’t know if i misinterpret this, but I think there’s someone else stronger than itachi (who you think is pretty strong).
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2004-05-23, 11:27 | Link #87 | |
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Knowing so little, from all we know, Akatsuki is probably a fairly peer-based organization with one specific "leader" or two who calls the shots, but because the group is so tightly-knit, the members probably have a lot more weight on their inputs and opinions; thus orders and missions are more flexible. This is just my personal interpretation, of course. Now, it was the entire organization's decision that securing the Kyuubi chakra source was important, but was the decision made with the assumption that someone like Jiraiya would've been invovled? No. It was simply "shark and weasel--you two infiltrate the Hidden Leaf, nab Naruto, and run back home. Sharky, you get to kill a few people if you want, but Itachi please bring back some green tea" or something like that. Had they known beforehand AND Itachi still retreated, then yes, he didn't do his job, but such is not the case. I'll put it this way: do you think any of the other members or the leader(s) of this group will blame Itachi and Kisame for retreating? Disappointed, probably. Extremely disappointed, perhaps. But if they are so badass, why not track down Jiraiya and beat him senseless? That is simply not a way "ninjas" should fight, and definitely not the best course of action for such a TINY criminal organization; losing a single member might be too much of a risk. Oh, and just to humor your interpretation, people giving orders from above aren't necessarily "stronger." Since the Leaf's high council and feudal lords make the decisions, they must be stronger than Kakashi and Gai and everyone else? Or Gato is stronger than Zabuza? That is simply illogical. Last edited by sarcasteak; 2004-05-23 at 11:35. Reason: rewording, restructuring |
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2004-05-23, 11:43 | Link #88 | |
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And my comment about Sasuke being God, did not mean Itachi was a God. All I'm saying is, if those two are the only ones that can defeat the mange sharingan, and one of them should die, the other one would become a God becauce no one will be able to counter it. However, considering this show is called Naruto, I doubt that the author will make the mange sharingan such a high level technique that even Naruto will not be able to defeat and from that I can conclude there are ways of countering the mange sharingan without being a sharingan user yourself. |
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2004-05-23, 11:52 | Link #91 |
KAWAIII-III!!!! >^_^ >
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Basically, what the Itachi fanboys are saying is: Take a normal kid, give him a fully developed Sharingan (Mangekyo) and he's not even rivaling with the strongest people in the world, he owns them! Sharingan > Other potential, which can be interpreted this way: Sharingan > All / Sharingan = God...
Before we can make any conclusions, Kishimoto needs to compare the Uchiha abilities to others abilities...
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2004-05-23, 11:59 | Link #93 | |
KAWAIII-III!!!! >^_^ >
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Also, for your information: To me, Itachi is the coolest person in the whole series and I'm such a fan, but I don't see how you all can be so sure about your assumptions.
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2004-05-23, 12:06 | Link #95 | ||
KAWAIII-III!!!! >^_^ >
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2004-05-23, 12:14 | Link #96 | ||
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Judging from his speed and calmness in judgement, I find him to be above mere jounin-level even without Mangekyo Sharingan. Add Sharingan to the mix...he might be pretty darn strong; otherwise why would someone so confident in his power and enjoy fighting like Kisame actually listen to and respect everything said by Itachi, this 17-year-old brat? Yes, they were at Itachi's home turf, but I find genuine respect from Kisame's tone. |
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2004-05-23, 12:44 | Link #98 |
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i thnk its pretty obvious that we all will say 4th after some time. because, we havent seen much of the 4th in his prim..which was after Oro left. Oro isnt much stronger then Jiraiya, and the 4th mange to do something what not even Sarutobi manage to do.
anyway, in their prime status...Naruto will kick ass. btw, does anyone know something about the uzumaki clan? the greatest of all clans. they landed on earth..when a metriod clashed upon mt fuji. they had a tail..and when the full moon was shown, they showed the true selfs!!!!!! spooky, indeed. |
2004-05-23, 12:50 | Link #99 | |
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2004-05-23, 13:11 | Link #100 | |
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