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View Poll Results: Ore no Imouto - Episode 11 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 65 | 49.62% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 37 | 28.24% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 14 | 10.69% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 6.11% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 2.29% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.76% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.76% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.53% | |
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2010-12-13, 13:46 | Link #102 | ||
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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As far as my rating, other than Episode 8 (Just b/c I really hate it), I've not rate an episode lower than 8... Quote:
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2010-12-13, 15:41 | Link #103 | |
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2010-12-13, 16:02 | Link #104 | |
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It may make you not like it, it may set it apart from other novels, but calling it flawed is like calling a photo artistically drained of color flawed because it does not have accurate colors. Kirino is awesome, in the way she affects those around her. I, too felt she was going too far in the first half; I'd be angry as hell if someone was like that with me. But, that's her character, and the entertaining interactions between Manami and Kyouske are a direct result of that. As far as how realistic Kirino's portrayal is, I have seen similar: horrible little brothers who are very mean to their older sisters, both IRL and in other stories. And IRL, there is almost *never* an apology scene, making the one in this episode that much more special. |
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2010-12-13, 16:15 | Link #105 |
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Well, this was the best episode of this series yet. I thought once Manami came into the picture, that'd be the perfect time for Kirino to get told off by Kyosuke, but I guess I came later on. I'm glad he was able to get what he was feeling off of his chest to Kirino. It actually should have happened a couple of episodes ago. Even though he explains why he tolerated all her abuse, it still doesn't satisfy me that he takes all of this **** like a doormat =0\.
Oh, and Kuroneko was awesome this episode(as usual), and Kyosuke's mom would have made a better sister (>.>). I was also hoping that he'd be attracted to Saori a little, even if he'd generally only think of her as a good friend, but I guess any future plans for that are pretty much non-existent =0(. |
2010-12-13, 16:17 | Link #106 | |
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But here's the problem, her character draws no sympathy IMO. It's simply a contradiction for a series or novel to expect the reader/viewer to sympathize with a simply unsympathetic character. When we look at episode 11, we see Kirino break way beyond the point of excusable behavior, but then we suddenly transition to a scene where she's apparently apologetic, as if both Kyousuke and the viewer are suddenly able to accept her. The show and/or novel is demanding the viewer/reader to be sympathetic. I could have swallowed this a lot more if they added an episode or two of Kyousuke actually acting depressed, where we get to see Kirino actually feel bad about what she's done. The problem is we got no such scenes. Out of the blue development justified by exposition in the plot. That makes me want to throw up. Would it have killed them to push back an episode like episode 10 back to a possible second season to allow a better transition? Would it have killed them in this series to actually give us a character we can root for? There hasn't been one since episode 6!.
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2010-12-13, 16:47 | Link #107 | |
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NO SAORI WITHOUT GLASSES.
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In the anime, the only times Kirino credits Kyousuke for his help are against their dad, patching up her relationship with Ayase, and for meeting Kuroneko and Saori. In the novels, Kyousuke does much more than that. Then there's Saori... Kyousuke was supposed to find out about her true identity, and the reason why she made up that otaku disguise in the first place. Kirino already got screwed out of her development in earlier episodes. Saori completely got shafted this episode. |
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2010-12-13, 17:09 | Link #110 |
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Where did you ever get the idea that Vagina-chan was a model?
Kirino and Ayase are models, but not her. With Saori's stats, being a model would probably be a problem. Saori obviously doesn't want anyone to find her attractive, so she's wearing those unshapely nerd clothes all the time
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2010-12-13, 17:12 | Link #111 |
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My opinion this episode is:
Lol, Surprised, And In Tears. 1.LOL- Lots of laugh this episode,right from the get go, from Kyousuke's dilemma in how to "escape" a tight situation involving his mother, Manami and Kirino's "traps". Kuroneko's doujinshi presentation is the "truth" and I lol'ed on the siblings reaction. 2.Surprised- Kirino's sudden super dere got me. My body wasn't ready damn it. 3.In Tears- Like Kyousuke's reaction I will definitely cry too, cause of all the experiences he had to go through for his sister (tarnishing his own reputation). A simple "Sorry" and "Thanks" satisfies Kyousuke. Damn Kyousuke your a damn BRO! (BROFIST!) And Kuroneko's supporting Kirino and gives handkerchief for her to give it to Kyou is heart-warming. (Kuroneko your totally in mai waifu's list). Others: 1. We already know it already deviated from the novel so it's no point comparing it to the novel. I'm actually watching it as a separate story from the novel (like a spinoff). 2. I'm actually wary of the "Good ENd". Are they saying that there's a "BAd ENd"? ~thinks of Ayase. 3. Because of this different end, the chance of having season two is very slim. But I am still hoping for a season two now that the OVA will deviate from the anime. And I am hoping it will follow the novel faithfully. Then we can have for season two.
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I think your distaste for incest is blinding you towards the series. Kirino isn't an attention freak in a general sense, she only wants Kyousuke's attention.
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2010-12-13, 17:30 | Link #113 |
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But what good does this do for someone who's only watching the anime? I find the idea of having to dig up information from the source material absurd. A show should present itself so that all necessary elements that are meant to be explained are explained. If not, then the show doesn't do its job of justifying its char's actions.
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But at this point of the story, no such answers are given. We are at the tail end already. We should already be receiving this information. Also, the LN is no justification for anything in the anime. The anime is supposed to be able to stand up on its own. (BTW the end of Kanon was very, very badly written into the story). Quote:
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My distaste of this series has nothing to do with me supposedly raging against incest. So I ask you, how so? She also wants the attention of her friends. An example of this is Kirino constantly badgering Kuroneko about the anime Meruru.
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2010-12-13, 18:05 | Link #115 | ||||
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And about not sympathizing, well, that's the impression I got too. After many debates and discussion with Triple_R and the others in the past episodes, I give up and stop trying to sympathize with her. It works for me, although I have to admit that this episode improves my sympathy for her, if only if could have been shown earlier. Quote:
And while I don't go as far as thinking of the anime as a spin-off, I also doesn't expect it to be perfectly faithful. Yes, a perfectly faithful adaptation would be excellent, but sometimes it's hard to adapt something to another form, and sometimes some changes needed to be made. Sometimes that change really change the story from the original source, but as long as it's still a good story, I don't mind the alternate re-telling. Of course, the problem with that is that you have to make sure that it's really good, as it will no doubt be compared to the original source. And if it's good but not as good, it won't be accepted well. Which...may be the case here, I haven't read the LN but the way I see it, while not a complete butchering some details that are changed / left out makes it compare less favorably than the LN.
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2010-12-13, 19:17 | Link #118 |
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this ep was absolute win for me, the best ep so far i think
the first half i was just dying laughing: Kirino's example of what she would do if she brought a boy home, the mother-in-law comment, Manami finding his porn collection and the laptop, "all the girls have glasses", also calling him onii-chan was priceless the second half was great as well: the harem party sign, and the receptionist sneaking peaks, all of them in maid outfits was nice, but Kuroneko stole the show with her ears an tail, her manga was just too hilarious, also calling Kyousuke nii-san was great, didn't expect the party to be to cheer him up and have Kirino apologize, and only she would get her brother an eroge as a present the new op and ed were nice as well will Saori's identity be reveled soon, because she's definitely hiding her true self maybe? so is next week the last ep?
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2010-12-13, 19:28 | Link #120 | ||
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I loved the part where they actually made it look like a game in the opening (before the epic scene made its return )
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