2011-04-26, 17:39 | Link #1041 |
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Refused.
Should I give you one it would be from a book, not from the ass of the internet, and frankly I don’t see a reason to go though the trouble and prove it you; considering even if I should give one to you, chances are you can’t check it. And there’s the thing you wrote immediately after you ask for a citation. You proved to me you completely and utterly missed the mark: Did I say anything about “serious business”? Try reading what you wrote, all of that falls into the definition I gave you. I’ll just say it again, most comedy is just normal plot/story/scene/etc exaggerated, that doesn’t mean the characters have to act stupid or unnatural or the moon has to fall from the sky; but they could. The element being exaggerated can be something almost unnoticeable at first. To put it in negative form, it’s very very hard to have humor with normal characters, doing normal routines/things, in an normal environment, talking perfectly normal, having a normal/usual conversation, etc (but sometimes it happens). If you still don’t agree, well that’s that, we can’t agree on everything.
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2011-04-26, 19:00 | Link #1042 | |
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Jiromaru clearly shows that he's no serious threat (lol ), and maybe he has more talent than what he thinks in how he was able to so quickly and accurately read a perfect stranger in Ohana.
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2011-04-26, 19:20 | Link #1043 | ||
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Of course, they're all normal things. I might find cranes flying into my way funny - where I'm from, birds usually avoid humans. But it might be normal for cranes to be confrontational in Tokyo. Therefore, you can't really speak of a single normality. What's normal here might be abnormal there. You might think the writers are exaggerating Minko's personality for some laughs, but it's how Minko naturally feels toward people. |
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2011-04-26, 19:46 | Link #1044 | ||
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And I'm not talking about the line,even if I accept that maybe it's considered normal to tell people you've never talked to before to die,the way the face is drawn just makes it look exagerated for laughs.
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2011-04-26, 23:49 | Link #1046 | ||
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The only one of interest is Kou, and well, which is why I want him in the story soon. Quote:
Anyhow, on another topic, about being a serious drama or not, I see no reason to not expect this series could manage to do both. Another series, Steins;Gate, has many casual lighthearted moments but it still is overall a serious story; I don't think that particular one has sacrficed any storytelling integrity to get the silly stuff on the screen. It troubles me, because PA works last production, Angel Beats, also had this odd mismash of drama and comedy that would work sometimes and not other times. Now, this is a completely different writer that everyone has lauded, so I honestly was a bit hyped up. It makes me suspicious that someone doing the editing or directing is screwing up somewhere.
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2011-04-27, 03:48 | Link #1047 | ||||
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So yeah, I think there's good grounds for saying she was embarrassed about being tied up. And we both know Tomoe would yap about it for months if she found out. Quote:
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And while I agree Ohana is the best character in the show, I think Nako is adorable and I actually like Tomoe and her soap opera/pulp romance novel fantasies.
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2011-04-27, 09:01 | Link #1050 | ||||
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I really don't see Ohana as someone who would be more worried about being embarrassed than simply getting out of being tied up, in bondage, by a creepy stranger who is writing her into erotic fiction (and may well try to rape her, given all of the above, as far as Ohana knows). Quote:
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I mean, I don't even consider myself cynical or jaded, but I can totally buy a mother like Ohana's, who would be willing to send Ohana off to live with another relative while she runs off with her boyfriend to help him avoid debt collectors. There's nothing the least bit unrealistic that I find in any of that. There are mothers like Ohana's. There are plenty of guys who get into serious debt issues (I personally know people who claimed personal bankruptcy). There are people who run inns. It's a slightly unusual confluence of circumstances, but neither individual part of it is that out of the ordinary, imo. Quote:
Nako has received a bit more hate than what she deserves, imo.
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2011-04-27, 13:35 | Link #1052 |
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Me too actually, lol. But if we try to see deeper into it, then it can be said that the Nako of the first two episodes (the girl who seemed too shy to even talk, the girl who omitted important informations to Ohana regarding room cleaning etc.) wasn't the same of the third and the fourth. Still nothing to "hate" there, imho, but perhaps something to be disappointed with. The Nako of the latest 2 episodes was presented with several more layers (from being a pro swimmer to the cute nicknames' detail, from her kind and caring personality to the temple visit) making her one of the most appealing to the audience as of now.
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2011-04-27, 16:39 | Link #1056 |
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Nako is improving. She’s improving at a snails pace, but I say we should be happy with any character development we get when it comes to her; because chances are she won’t really play any major roles.
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2011-04-27, 19:37 | Link #1057 |
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I understand why people dislike Nako - Ohana and Minko are practically pushing their own unique personalities out in the open; they're being bold and showing their true selves. Ohana especially; she's very much forcing everyone at the inn to accept her role. Not just as the owner's granddaughter, but also as an actual worker like everyone else there. In doing so, she's been put down by several people (Minko and Tohru are the obvious ones, Nako in a more subtle way) but Ohana refuses to back down. I believe this is why everyone is rooting for Ohana.
Nako, on the other hand, is very very reclusive. She's nice, but she's also quite shy and wouldn't have opened up to Ohana if Ohana weren't so eager to be friends. There's not much we can extol about Nako, because she hasn't shown us what's hiding behind the closed veil. In episode 4, we learned she likes the lantern festival... but lots of people like the festival. Nako can be bold at times - she risks her own life in episode 3 (well, not really) to save some half-washed writer who really didn't mean anything to anyone. But even then, Nako still kept the same introverted aura around her. Nako does get angry a couple of times, but immediately reverts back to passive Nako. Personally, I can see why people find it annoying. Nako doesn't quite face the same pressure as Ohana, who is struggling to adapt to a new environment. Or Minko, who is struggling to deal with love (could just be a miscommunication, however). I'm not going to emplore Nako-haters to give Nako a chance - hate who you want to hate. Still, I do think she's going to gradually improve over the next 20 or so episodes. Mainly because I believe Ohana's going to try and draw out the other side of Nako we haven't seen yet. Just leave it to Ohana... she's going to shake up just about everyone at the inn. |
2011-04-28, 00:14 | Link #1059 |
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I will compile a list of Ohana's mistreatment. This will be even worse than Angel Bullies
Episode 1: Mom runs out on her, Ohana gets slapped thrice by grandma, recieves death threats from Minko Episode 2: Gets scolded by Grandma, harassed by Mr. Writer Episode 3: Gets bound and gagged, victim of terrible fanfic. Episode 4: Attacked by Heron, strangled by Minko WHAT NEXT?
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2011-04-28, 00:26 | Link #1060 | |
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As for what the Tolkien-fan said a couple of posts above, I tend to agree, Ohana seems somewhat M, probably the reason things never progressed with Kou |
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