2009-03-11, 22:49 | Link #1802 | |
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conventional missiles are pretty easy to stop. we just need to work on stopping ICBMS
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2009-03-11, 22:49 | Link #1803 |
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The thing with fallout, it's actually dirt and debris that was lifted into the air by the blast. It's not a part of the bomb itself. If you shoot down a nuclear missile, the only thing you have to worry about is the actual radioactive material of the warhead itself, whic is probably going to be too dispersed to cause much of a problem. There won't be any fallout unless the warhead is successfully detonated.
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2009-03-11, 22:58 | Link #1804 | ||
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Otherwise it could be a waste of taxpayer money.
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2009-03-11, 23:03 | Link #1805 |
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the weapon is currently designed to overload guidance systems in missiles.
it can be adjusted to overload the nervous system in humans to stun or kill. the articles states the project has been categorized as top secret. kinda scary
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2009-03-11, 23:07 | Link #1806 | |
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2009-03-11, 23:09 | Link #1807 | |
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I thought about the food issue for awhile, and its true that I made some understatements. Without Chinese supplies, North Korea is screwed in a couple years. However, thinking that an invasion and occupation of North Korea, even w/out nukes, is feasible, is incredibly naive. It's a fact that thousands of pieces of artillery and missiles are pointed at Seoul and every other South Korean city. It's a fact that North Korea has a huge army and an extremely disproportionate amount of weapons and fortifications considering their nation's size. It's a fact that many of their military personnel are hardcore patriots, and that the entire country has been bombarded by all kinds of propaganda for 50 years, which is impossible to avoid, particularly when the nation is completely isolated. So many people would die if there was a war. And not just North Koreans. If the American people are getting whiny about 4000 dying in Iraq, they'll probably start rioting like crazy when tens of thousands of shell and rockets wipe out the entire 38000 troops stationing near the DMZ, along with Seoul. The South Korean Army would be struggling to feed its sown people, let alone feed North Koreans, while at the same time dealing with the 100,000-man special forces army of the North, and all the resistance they would encounter simply because of 50 years of indoctrination. A quarter of a million people would die? Try in the ballpark of ten times that number for starters. North Korea doesn't need years to fight the South. All they need is enough time to launch missile and fire artillery, and South Korea's already lost a lot of its potential. And this wouldn't be in some African nation that no one particularly cares about. It would be one of the most advanced countries on earth taking the toll, in probably less than a month's time. Once South Korea is in ruins, I'd like to see how the occupation and rebuilding effort (if there is one) is going to go. I'm sure people understand that a war would be terrible, but you surely cannot compare it to Iraq or any other war that has occurred since... well, the 1st Korean war. EDIT: Actually, you know what? What the hell do I know? What the hell do any of us know? Nobody knows how much food the North Koreans really have, nobody knows how loyal their people are. We don't know if China will help them or not at all. All we can do is speculate. All of us are probably going to be wrong in some major way. |
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2009-03-11, 23:23 | Link #1808 |
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communism is falling, the chinese know it, hell the whole world knows it. The social experiment failed and the chinese government is having a hard time dealing with the reality. Actually it would be safe to say that most typical chinese are fed up with the government, and the high amounts of corruption. If you look at the earthquakes in guandong, the only buildings left standing are government buildings whereas schools were the first things to collapse. Fighting a war of people that the chinese are not too particularly fond of is not gonna releive the anger from corruption which has been increasing since the inception of the chinese government after the the warring states era.
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2009-03-11, 23:37 | Link #1809 | |
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2009-03-11, 23:38 | Link #1810 | |
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Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles
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2009-03-12, 06:39 | Link #1811 | |
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ICBMs are considered sub-orbital weapons, since it moves above the atmosphere before coming down to achieve its range of above 5500km. As for NK's new missile, it should be considered an IRBM (intermediate-range ballistic missile) since it has a range above 3500km (approx 4000km). It can more or less hit central Alaska. It would be good of Japan shoots down the missile. Kim needs to shut up and take care of his stroke before someone gives him a good buttstroke.
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2009-03-12, 09:51 | Link #1812 | |
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The wars in Iraq and Afganistan on the other hand are going on right now. The actual lessons learned are still fresh in the minds of the soldiers who served there. Even if we assume it'd be a completely new force sent in with no combat experience in either nation, the people who trained them will have had that experience and can pass on quite a bit in terms of procedures of what works and what doesn't.
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2009-03-12, 14:11 | Link #1813 | |
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2009-03-12, 14:24 | Link #1814 | |
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And by the way, the North has 100000 guys it calls "Special Forces". But what is it that makes them so special? Last edited by Anh_Minh; 2009-03-12 at 14:38. |
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2009-03-12, 15:27 | Link #1816 |
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North Korea would have to somehow mobilize its forces without being noticed and then Rush south into Seoul and use the citizen population as a shield in order to have any kind of chance of winning a war.
Otherwise we'll just see a repeat of the Iraqi war. North Korean Radar and Airbase installations will be the first targets to be bombed. If the North tries to Rush, they will quickly find themselves bombarded with incendiary, and cluster bombs. Once air superiority has been guaranteed, you will see US ground forces sweep through the nation to take out any remaining forces. Like i said earlier, you simply cannot use strategies from decades past and expect to win. not to mention use equipment decades old.
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2009-03-12, 18:37 | Link #1817 | |
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The special forces are special not because of their weapons , but because they have better training than other soldiers, more loyalty, and more to the point, would probably make the best use of the tunnels and the rations which are probably stored inside them to facilitate an insurgent war against the South. The kind of worldview they have would encourage them not to surrender in huge droves like Iraq's Republican Guard did, and instead they would probably try to keep other North Koreans from surrendering. |
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On another, did anyone else get the feeling the article was a joke when you got to the PHASER part? "Set your phasers to stun" is a classic Star Trek line, and the fact that they didn't make a joke about that in the article made it seem like deadpan humor. |
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I really don't understand why you are so fixated on North Korea. Quote:
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