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Old 2012-12-24, 22:51   Link #181
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I like how Eltnum's theme is an arrangement of the MBAA opening theme.
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Old 2013-01-01, 19:45   Link #182
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So, after just finding out about this game a and watching a few match vids (and listening to the awesome OST), I can say I'm pretty damned hyped. Any word on console release?
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Old 2013-01-01, 22:30   Link #183
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None at all. However, it's not unlikely.
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Old 2013-01-02, 09:37   Link #184
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At least French Bread confirmed that they might port this to a console, better than nothing. I hope this gets a PC release, since I don't have any console nor a computer powerful enough to emulate one.
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Old 2013-01-03, 08:41   Link #185
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Ideally, French Bread should port UNIB to all 3 major platforms if they really want to get the game off the ground. Looking at the Arcade Modes and other info, it's pretty clear they have big things planned for this game and want to turn into a new franchise.
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Old 2013-01-05, 22:17   Link #186
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I would think that making a new Melty Blood instead of UNiB (with the same production quality, of course) would have garnered a crap-ton more interest from the get-go. Not sure why they'd make UNiB to get interest in a new MB.
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Old 2013-01-05, 23:00   Link #187
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Same reason why they made Blazblue instead of GG3.
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Old 2013-01-05, 23:06   Link #188
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It is not the same.

French Bread can't make a new MB because Mushroom is sluggish as always.

On the other hand, Arc can't make a new GG yet because the copy right issue wasn't settled until too long ago, and there are various preparation before they can reboot the project.
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Old 2013-01-06, 01:14   Link #189
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Same reason why they made Blazblue instead of GG3.
Seeing what GG2 was...you sure you want GG3?
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Old 2013-01-06, 06:50   Link #190
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Same reason why they made Blazblue instead of GG3.
Wasn't the primary reason for making blazblue instead of another GG that Sega ended up having the rights for guilty gear and Arksystem works bought the rights back in 2011?
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Old 2013-01-06, 11:44   Link #191
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Seeing what GG2 was...you sure you want GG3?
Meant as in GGXXX, the next fighting game lol

Leaving the copyright issues aside, it's pretty obvious by now that you can't attract new players/interest with sequels.
GGXXX would've been a bad move. As would MB2.
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Old 2013-01-06, 13:26   Link #192
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Meant as in GGXXX, the next fighting game lol

Leaving the copyright issues aside, it's pretty obvious by now that you can't attract new players/interest with sequels.
GGXXX would've been a bad move. As would MB2.
At the same time, you have no established fanbase that would give the game a chance even when the game is new.

Anyway, both MB and GG are bad examples. Eltnum's arcade story in UNiB showed that French Bread wanted to make Melty Blood HD, but Nasu was still busy with other projects as always. For Guilty Gear, there were copyright issues as mentioned before.
Therefore, it's not really right to say that they willingly stopped making sequels but that neither one of them had much of a choice.



As for MB and GG's diminished community overseas, that is also a little more complicated than just being an old series. Melty Blood was never localized, which already limits player access, and in addition the PC version of the newest Melty Blood was only a limited edition bundle coupled with the third Carnival Phantasm BD set, so it's not even possible to legally import a copy anymore. In addition, needing PC set-ups for tournament scenes is a lot more problematic than the typical console set-up.
For Guilty Gear, you have a small portion that sticks to Guilty Gear because they don't like BlazBlue mechanics, and you have another portion moving onto BlazBlue simply because it's the "newest" ArcSys game. Repeat this fragmentation for BlazBlue and Persona 4 Arena.

Then if you consider the already stagmatized notion of "anime" games in Ca$hcom gaming central America, you have an already dimished fanbase being diminished even further.
If there's only one good thing to say about the Capcom fighting game community, it's that they at least stick to only one game: the latest version of Street Fighter or Marvel vs Capcom. With "anime" fighting gamers, they are all over the place. Sure, having variety and being able to experiment with other games is great, but at the same time it doesn't sustain a consistent community which is also needed to keep a fighting game alive.
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Old 2013-01-06, 15:59   Link #193
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Well, one doesn't stop playing a game... they just play something more since his main game isn't competitive as it used to be. That's why GG people play BB.
A new sequel was needed to re-awaken the old players. However GG is hard to get into, therefore, the chances of AC+R bringing new players are slim.

You could say that Capcom is being "lazy" right now, by not bringing new games. But that's only because they don't need to work their asses! They conquered a large and loyal fanbase.
Back then though, Capcom had made tons of games to attract new players. SNK as well.

And as you can see, only Street Fighter, Marvel and KOF had success. Afterall, who wouldn't like to see a new Garou, Samurai Shodown, Capcom vs SNK, Alpha or Darkstalkers?
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Old 2013-01-06, 23:48   Link #194
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I would think that making a new Melty Blood instead of UNiB (with the same production quality, of course) would have garnered a crap-ton more interest from the get-go. Not sure why they'd make UNiB to get interest in a new MB.
Nothing wrong with branching out and making new IPs. If anything this should be encouraged more especially considering the problems both companies have with their sister series. Better than ASW and French Bread sitting on their ass and letting talent go to waste. It's risky venture sure, but when has not been in such a high violate market? UNiB's current position wasn't too different from BB when it started, but smart marketing and awareness allowed it to become what it is today. As long as French Bread plays their cards right and keep reasonable expectations they can carve out a loyal fanbase.

And who knows? Perhaps we might even see something similar to Street Fighter and King of Fighter rivalries of 90's.
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Old 2013-01-06, 23:54   Link #195
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As I've mentioned before, French Bread mentioned (in an interview) that they wanted to make a new Melty Blood, but they couldn't because Nasu was (and still is) busy with other projects.

At that point in time, it was either start a new project or do nothing.
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Old 2013-01-07, 11:54   Link #196
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And who knows? Perhaps we might even see something similar to Street Fighter and King of Fighter rivalries of 90's.
UNiB is meant to be BB rival.
However BB is a much more mature game, and I'm afraid UNiB is late for the party.
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Old 2013-01-07, 14:08   Link #197
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Mature? What do you mean?
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Old 2013-01-07, 14:57   Link #198
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By that I mean, the game has been around and played for some time.
That reflects in a better game with less balance issues, and therefore, more competitive.
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Old 2013-01-07, 22:15   Link #199
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Arcana Heart was made by Examu and published by ASW.
And quite honestly, doesn't feel like a quality title... It's good as a fighter, but the setting (Only girls and tons of fan service) made it appear less serious as a contender.

AH is part of "B-Rated" fighters that aren't meant to be popular. These also include:
-Aquapazza
-Chaos Code
-Ougon
-Akatsuki
-Vanguard Princess
-And many others you probably never heard about, for obvious reasons!

What UNiB is trying to do is exactly the opposite of BB, which is to attract new players from a small fanbase.
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Old 2013-01-08, 08:20   Link #200
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Arcana Heart was made by Examu and published by ASW.
And quite honestly, doesn't feel like a quality title... It's good as a fighter, but the setting (Only girls and tons of fan service) made it appear less serious as a contender.

AH is part of "B-Rated" fighters that aren't meant to be popular. These also include:
-Aquapazza
-Chaos Code
-Ougon
-Akatsuki
-Vanguard Princess
-And many others you probably never heard about, for obvious reasons!

What UNiB is trying to do is exactly the opposite of BB, which is to attract new players from a small fanbase.
I always saw Arcana as the "fourth option" in arcade fighters behind Capcom, SNK and Arc Systems. It may be more doujin-ish in feel but it is rather prominent in game centers.

At least it is still good to play...unlike say...that awful Touhou fighting game...Hisouten and Hisoutensoku.
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