2009-08-30, 09:03 | Link #3322 | |
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Hey, I didn't say that drug theory, it was __dk's . Tough Gohda Commando didn't escape trough window, there was something about footing if I remember correctly. But I think that indeed, if windows are not tricky one (that kind of windows where breaking glass is not enough, you also need to destroy other elements), you can escape Chapel using one, with enoug prep time.
About being aware of Red Truth-well, I just wanted to say, that some theories sounds like peoples are making them like culprit was aware of Red Truth and was going to make red text tricky. That way of thinking is rather dangerous, and full of traps. Quote:
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2009-08-30, 10:07 | Link #3324 |
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I don't believe that the other silblings knew that Rosa could solve the riddle.
Besides, all of them were in the chapel when they acknowledged Beatrice so why did Rosa leave and the rest didn't? I'm not sure about the 3 ingots in the chapel, we can't know if they are real or not...Krauss only had one in this room, so if they are real the culprit must have placed them there... If we can believe the ED stats than no one solved the epitaph...
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2009-08-30, 10:19 | Link #3325 |
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Well, you are right. They don't think too high of her, yet she might be closest to the solving it-only person that might be able to spot is Kyrie. In which Ep Kyrie said that thing about getting friendly with Rosa because of being parent of little girl, or something like that?
Also, anyone remember that drug\medicine Supersheep have against Maria's tantrums? I was kinda curious about it, but I don't remember anything that I can use to google it...Like, can you buy something without doctor approval? |
2009-08-30, 11:21 | Link #3329 |
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Well, Rosa said herself in the end that she always lived in the shadow of her siblings, and that they always considered her as their young idiot little sister.
I think that we can throw away the scene in the chapel because we know that Beatrice wasn't there in the first place. Personally, I think that: Spoiler for Theories for the Second Game, from the First to the 5th Twilight.:
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2009-08-30, 11:27 | Link #3330 | |
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I can't really think that so many people in ep2 had all the same hallucinations.
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2009-08-30, 11:28 | Link #3331 |
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Well, we have to solve one problem then: How can Beatrice be there if there is only 17 people on the island and we saw each of them? And it is not required to be an hallucination: If we consider that only what Battler see and the Red Truth as the truth.
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2009-08-30, 11:31 | Link #3332 |
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The easier way to explain it is that she's someone of 17 in disguise. Anyway you have the same problem with ep4, and you can't say that Battler talking to Beatrice didn't really happen.
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2009-08-30, 11:31 | Link #3333 |
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Although I don't think there's a "Rokkenjima Syndrome" I do think there's something giving everyone hallucinations. Like my "different people remember the previous worlds in different arcs" theory, there could be a "different people start hallucinating in each arc" theory. How? That's the thing to ponder.
EDIT: Was it ever said in Red that what Battler sees is or is not immune to hallucinations? I know everything we see from him is supposed to be exactly what he saw. |
2009-08-30, 11:36 | Link #3334 | |
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in brief, it could be a dream... Edit: Oh by the way, didn't he drink a bit in the guesthouse? Or maybe I'm confused with another scene... |
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2009-08-30, 11:39 | Link #3336 |
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But the same hallicunation by different people?
At the End of ch. 2 Battler sees Kinzo which is already dead, and Piece- Battler shouldn't know about the "Kinzo name inheritance" so if it isn't a "clone" he is hallucinating at this point at least.
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2009-08-30, 11:46 | Link #3339 |
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Well, Ep2 is not a very good example since he was completely drunk in this scene^^. But we can't consider that everything that was shown to us is the truth! If we think this way, we would have to explain the stakes, Kanon's corpse disappearance, the goats, etc etc...
What I want to say concerning Ep2 is that Battler didn't see Beatrice in this game, except at the end when he was completely drunk and when he saw Kinzo as well who was already dead since at least 3 days. The rest can be explain with my theory at this point I think (Please crush it =p) |
2009-08-30, 11:51 | Link #3340 | |
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Eh, that EP5. Can't wait for translation. Almost spoiled myself when looking for new character futari-e (that's how sprite or whatever is called, right?) on Umineko Wiki, but guess what, there was just spoilerish wall of text. God damned traps.
So, our dear piece Beato. 1.) Is she a constant piece? I mean, everytime she appears, she is the same person in disguise? 2.) Who she can be? In both Eps, she can be everyone. In EP4, when Battler meets her we have no idea who was still alive. Hell, in Ep2 she might be already dead after 1st Twilight! But still, that fuckin ep2 drunkenness. Battler, can you not touch %things when you are goin to narrate some critical part of story ? 3.) Why she is not appearing in EP 1 and EP 3? Can we name found some "Beatrice trigger"? Only thing I can think at the moment (and at the moment, I'm watching romhacked Mario gameplays, so yeah ) is that Shannon live pretty long when Piece Beato appear. 4.) How many people seen her? Not counting chapel scene, Maria's letter and servants: Kyrie and Rosa (EP2), Battler (EP4). And if we count servants, we have also Genji (well he was in the same scene as Kyrie, so), Kannon and Shannon (only EP 2). Fi-shy. Edit: Quote:
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