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Old 2019-05-28, 00:03   Link #22041
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just wondering but what did everyone use on e3hard last dance p2 boss ?
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Old 2019-05-28, 07:20   Link #22042
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I don't know what I did wrong but I still haven't unlocked e4's third starting point; I got the boss at her final form, I had 1 or more S-victory at node J, S, and T got air superiority at node K, even had air supremacy at base defence.
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Old 2019-05-28, 09:54   Link #22043
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I don't know what I did wrong but I still haven't unlocked e4's third starting point; I got the boss at her final form, I had 1 or more S-victory at node J, S, and T got air superiority at node K, even had air supremacy at base defence.
I think in addition you need to cut the HP gauge by 70%.
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Old 2019-05-28, 10:19   Link #22044
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Her Hp gauge is way bellow that, into the ''last dance'' territory.

Edit: I finally managed to unlock it; it seem than I had not got Air superiority at node L previously.
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Old 2019-05-28, 12:02   Link #22045
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Just to make sure: Is farming on Casual and going up to hard mode later still possible? With Fletcher being S rank only I doubt I'd get her on even medium lol
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Old 2019-05-28, 14:16   Link #22046
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Just to make sure: Is farming on Casual and going up to hard mode later still possible? With Fletcher being S rank only I doubt I'd get her on even medium lol
As long as you don't clear it you can always reset. But if you accidentally clear it it's over.
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Old 2019-05-28, 14:20   Link #22047
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At the end I never got a S-victory at E-4, airpower did the job. I didn't get Fletcher so I will have to get back after E-5. At least now E-4 run should be abit easier now.
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Old 2019-05-28, 16:02   Link #22048
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As long as you don't clear it you can always reset. But if you accidentally clear it it's over.
Thanks.
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At the end I never got a S-victory at E-4, airpower did the job. I didn't get Fletcher so I will have to get back after E-5. At least now E-4 run should be abit easier now.
In case you are on hard: How did you Srank V?
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Old 2019-05-28, 16:24   Link #22049
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In case you are on hard: How did you Srank V?
Sorry, I was on Normal and I didn't manage to get a S-rank even when putting all chance on my side.

Myabe now than the boss's formation will go back to her initial form and the third starting point ( and the bonus comming with it) it might be into my reach but beating E-5 will get priority.
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Old 2019-05-28, 18:10   Link #22050
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Sorry, I was on Normal and I didn't manage to get a S-rank even when putting all chance on my side.

Myabe now than the boss's formation will go back to her initial form and the third starting point ( and the bonus comming with it) it might be into my reach but beating E-5 will get priority.
That explains why you didn't get fletcher, apparently she is Srank only.

Edit: i hate how you can accidentially lock your ship girls by sortieng to the wrong map even though you don't do a single node...
Well I hope that Musashi and Saratoga can do Medium on E5 because all my big seven AND US ships bar Saratoga are now locked...

Oh well at least farming E4 farming will be easier now.
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Old 2019-05-30, 11:10   Link #22051
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E3甲 made me feel less miserable than E2甲 . I "only needed" 33 sorties overall, and only 2 LD trips. The 1st trip was stopped right at the Wo Kai node, which absolutely sucked. Second trip is where I decided to stack all the chances I could get, as in sending 2 sparkled support expeditions. Then EVERYTHING FELL RIGHT INTO THE RIGHT PLACES.

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I went through all preboss nodes with minimal damage. And in the boss node, the turning point were when the artillery imps got sunk by the air raids and when Teruzuki shot down ALL the enemy planes, neutralizing Airbase-hime. Teste killed Airfield Hime and Nelson Touch killed the DJ Hime. This is where it became easier for my fleet. Cue the night battle where things could have gone wrong with my damage dealer choking. But a Double Stalinium Combo destroyed that little pest.

For Part 2, you have the choice between making to the boss with a FAST CTF, with a Fleet Oiler made Fast. You will avoid Node O with Double Ru and 1 Nu-Kai and you can use replenishment to increase your chances in the boss node, with guarantee AS. But lower chances to actually kill the Hoppo No Inouto.

Or you can go with a STF, where you cant avoid node O. But, with more surface combat ships, therefore more chance to kill the installations. Just dont lock Hibiki, Tashkent or Gangut before that map. This is where they shines. Blinding the Abyssals with the glorious glow of Stalin's mustache.

Now need to recover my resource before E4.
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Old 2019-06-01, 15:56   Link #22052
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Not before long and Tanaka will get me to quit this game. E3 is cancer, even on lower difficulty. Immensely frustrating that your success depends on very random variables (namely, LBA success and big hits from anti-installation equipment). That is, if your fleet even gets to the boss node.
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Old 2019-06-01, 16:11   Link #22053
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I am imagining a future consist of "Freedom" being delivered by Avengers, 16 inch shells and crazy amounts of 5 inch DP rounds from everyone in the task force.
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Old 2019-06-01, 16:27   Link #22054
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Not before long and Tanaka will get me to quit this game. E3 is cancer, even on lower difficulty. Immensely frustrating that your success depends on very random variables (namely, LBA success and big hits from anti-installation equipment). That is, if your fleet even gets to the boss node.
Even "Easy"has dumb compositions in this event. I had to drop down to easy for E5, due to my little Send e5 fleet to E4 accident and couldn't beat the first Boss' in LD afterwards... On easy: Died during day combat. Strangely I'm not even sad I had to do E5 on easy anymore.

Farming Fletcher once the map resets to pre-LD is cancer to... See e4s easy fleet.

Easy mode E4 composition:
Main
Central Princess - 600 HP
Missouri Battleship Water Demon Kai - 800 HP
Artillery Imp - 130
Airfield Princess -500 HP
Supply Depot Princess 600HP
70HP transport


Escort
He class LC
Tsu
IClass
Imp
Transport 7HP
Transport 70HP

I can't even guarantee a 100% SRank rate on easy, if I use Boss support... Higher difficulties need only A rank, but the drop rate on that is even more Abyssmal than with an Srank. We are also back to Slow ship discrimination here, and I mean the extremely bad one that ignores turbines. So no big seven unless you go CTF, which requires you to bring an AO and leads you either through troll subs or an armored carrier princess.

And no sign of the E4 and E5 friend fleets... (Does anyone know when they are supposed to arrive btw?)

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I am imagining a future consist of "Freedom" being delivered by Avengers, 16 inch shells and crazy amounts of 5 inch DP rounds from everyone in the task force.
More like: Marry all shipgirls + Expansion slots and then still wait for friend fleets. The real problem is the average sortie cost though. Also fun fact: Iowa gets a penalty from her own guns, making them more worthwhile on anyone except herself.
For some strange reason those -5 penalties then end up on a 0 Accuracy result, while if you add the same Iowa gun to Kirishima, it ends with a +1 result if you mix it with a 35.6 triple.
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Old 2019-06-01, 16:52   Link #22055
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E3甲 made me feel less miserable than E2甲 . I "only needed" 33 sorties overall, and only 2 LD trips.
I'm already on #30 for LD on 乙, so I think there is no need for the "". You should consider yourself very lucky. Now more than ever, Kancolle has turned into essentially a casino. You get to choose where you put your chips in and after that it's completely out of your control.
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Old 2019-06-01, 17:14   Link #22056
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Just realized this is one of Colorado's hourlies...
"It is 4. Right, double line... But, don't you think you shouldn't ignore echelon? You can face both forwards and broadside."
ohhh you Tanaka...
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Old 2019-06-01, 18:11   Link #22057
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I'm at E5 P1 LD at the moment. But I ran out of fuel, so it's just too bad that I need to take an enforced break.

Bashed my way through first four maps. Between E2-E4 I did 163 sorties (including unlocks), but my troubles usually landed while trying to clear; unlocks usually done in one try.
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Old 2019-06-01, 19:39   Link #22058
Sheba
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I am imagining a future consist of "Freedom" being delivered by Avengers, 16 inch shells and crazy amounts of 5 inch DP rounds from everyone in the task force.
Here you can tell the difference between those who actually play the game, and those who dont and mostly stay for the memes and moar foreign content.


Lemme tell you one thing, shiny equipment from allied ships wont do anything if Tanaka give tenfold more to the Abyssals, not to mention how he bloat each maps with new ridiculous hoops to make you stay longer in EACH EVENT MAPS.

He give you F4 Phantoms? Watch him give the Abyssal equivalent of stealth fighters. He give you F35? He'll fucking give them X Wings. You got X Wings? Now watch Tanaka give Abyssals Gundams, not any Gundams, the ace customs kind. This is how he "balance" the game. He sells a kid a revolver, while giving the hoodlums MG-42 and Panzerfaust. WELCOME TO KANCOLLE BALANCING.

That he decided to extend the event to 4 weeks instead of 3 weeks, AND ADD FRIENDLY FLEETS AFTER REPORTS OF FRONTLINERS RUNNING OUT OF FUEL UNABLE TO CLEAR, should tell you how comically or tragically he cant seem to beta test his maps. Compare to Miyazaki of Dark Souls' fame who wont greenlit a game until he can clear the game, knowing he sucks at action games. Long story short, Tanaka backpedal on the difficulty likely after the higher ups in KDKW bitch at him after they got bitched at by the players. Well, that likely how it happens.
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Old 2019-06-01, 21:36   Link #22059
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Considering everything I mentioned in basically normal equipment on already implemented ships, if recent...What?

(Iowa and Colorado, 16 inch guns)
(Lexington and Intrepid, Avenger torpedo bombers)
(Fletcher and Johnston, 5 inch 38cal DP guns - which basically every American warship was armed with)

All their normal weapons in the war. Nothing fancy, just an all American task force now that one can be formed. Much like one might have any other constancies based on historical task forces, specifics ship types, or preference nationalities for extra damage to the Boss.
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Old 2019-06-01, 23:53   Link #22060
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Doing e2 hard, why are there no friend support?
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