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Come on... Urahara himself said that he's sealing him. Not killing him, sealing him. He might as well have added the "...until he comes back..." himself, because I assure you most every reader in existence was saying that in their heads as they were reading it... Yeah, we all believed in "another Aizen hax". We still do. Hell, I myself called several chapters ago that Aizen would be taking a little hiatus from the series, but I was only stating what everybody else (most everybody else, at least) already expected... You do realize that it wasn't Orihime that saved Shiori, right? Or anyone else whose name isn't Ichigo, Ishida, Menoly, or Loli, for that matter. Or any of the dead Espada. At least not so far this arc. Kubo is more than capable of asspulling his way out of killing any "good guys" without his resident Deus ex Leekspin... We get it. Orihime's healing is overpowered, and you don't like that. Please feel free to spam bring it up again when it's not off-topic, as I get the feeling you'll have plenty of chances over the next few chapters...
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2010-09-29, 19:32 | Link #82 | |
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But it wasn't a real wound remember it was a hole in his chest that causes his hollowfication that bis why orihime couldn't heal she can't heal hollow holes
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That sounds a lot more speculative than what I'm proposing. The fact is that he was wounded. Hollows are known to occur because of soul chain degradation, not via being shot in the right spot. The evidence is clearly pointing to support where her limitations lie in relation to reiatsu rejection. I won't argue that it certainly helped to speed things along, but that's after a while, and she had caught him before he hit the ground even and tried to heal him. The situation as a whole was unique, perhaps he would've died if she didn't call out for him (since his motivation wouldn't really be there). And who knows, while her power may not be enough to 'heal' a hollow into being a normal soul, maybe if she had enough motivation or something she could do even that. That'd be a pretty awesome thing.
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I guess it would be a neat thing that Orihime motivated Ichigo into "Perfect Hollowfication" but I still said that without the hole it would have never happened and he would have just been dead even with motivation. I mean really the reatsu was probably released from the hole when Orhime began screaming "Kurosaki-kun 500 times turning him into that beast. Yes I know hollows are born with there holes not had it shot through like Ichigo, but that was the ability given to Ulquirra when he hit them in the chest with his hand
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Well not create hollow more or less, but Ulqurra knew the ablity himself so Grimmjow wouldn't have known fully either. And no Ulquirra punching holes in people's chest has some reason. It leaves a hole there that emits special reatsu. The fact is that I can say being resonable that the cause of Ichigo's transformation was that hole take note that the sound was coming from that hole
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Where he put a hole in Ichigo had no special significance as far as Ichigo reaching full Hollowification goes. The important point was simply that Ichigo DIED - that the wound was severe and large enough to cause death (and considering about half his chest was missing I think that counts as severe and large). The severity of the wound (ie the fact that it was a MORTAL wound) is what allowed him to reach full hollowification. It was a self-preservation maneuver only and had nothing whatsoever to do with any mystic power of Ulquiorra's that you imagined up.
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2010-09-30, 01:54 | Link #97 |
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^This. Ichigo died and his hollow part took over. Period. End of story. There's no rhyme or reason to it (other than him having a hollow part that could take him over) because Kubo had to give Ichigo a massive boost in order to be able to take out Goth Jesus.
That's how true advancement occurs in Bleach. When your ass is kicked long enough, you mystically pull a new (or for some reason previously unused) ability out of said ass and use it to get over (or to trigger your foe's next asspull). Note that if the ability is successful, it is instantly nerfed, and will probably never be more than marginally useful again. The hole in the chest was symbolic. It was Kubo's ham-handed attempt at foreshadowing.
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it doesn't make sense, whatever the medium, to have a character that can "create something by blasting a hole in something so they can emit a special energy" - you'd have to have pulled that through your arse up past your tongue to have come up with something like that.
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