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Malkuth · 2011-12-12, 23:12

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Originally Posted by Frailty

can I have the image sauce?
the art looks official and I haven't seen it yet

It's from Soejima Shigenori Artworks 2004-2010... here are the scans.

piccahoe · 2011-12-13, 02:43

I'm glad they made this more about the struggle that each characters. In psychology persona is a mask one present to the world. It may appear in dreams under various guises. (wiki) I wonder if the inside of the T.V represents the "dream" part.

Xenio · 2011-12-13, 04:58

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Originally Posted by piccahoe

I'm glad they made this more about the struggle that each characters. In psychology persona is a mask one present to the world. It may appear in dreams under various guises. (wiki) I wonder if the inside of the T.V represents the "dream" part.

pretty much the same as what persona is in the persona game series (not only persona 4),

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A Persona is a manifestation of a person's personality in the Persona series, referred to as a "mask" for an individual to use to face hardship. A Persona is similar to a Shadow. Shadows are malevolent manifestations of one's inner thoughts, while a Persona is a manifestation of the same feelings but tamed and trained. If an individual takes up a resolution in his or her heart, the Persona will undergo a metamorphosis into a stronger form.

Persona 2 say more about Persona

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"An imposter, born out of our rumors, isn't it...? It's just like what happened with our Shadows....Another "self" that was created in the minds of others..."People only know about themselves through how others perceive them"... The existence of our "ego" originates in others... We compare ourselves to others, and we are conscious of how our image is perceived when we are among others... That's when "we" really start to be created... I think that means... for every person we meet, we have yet another "self" formed out of their perceptions."

about both Persona and Shadows (Persona 3)

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"Personas and Shadows are the same thing. That's why you're able to fight them in the first place. Did you all think that Shadows were mysterious invaders or something? Shadows are the lower parts of the psyche everyone has... Suppressed human thoughts given physical form. When people are unable to face their darker selves, they break loose, free from all control. But sometimes, humans with special awareness can tame their Shadows... Those are Persona-users. The Shadows' power affects time and even space... Through your Personas, your unspoken desires were manifested..."

RDF2050 · 2011-12-13, 12:26

I got a question for those who played the game (I didn't played this game

)

Does 24 episodes can really cover all the material that the game has?

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Off Topic: I know this is an old video but I can't resist to post this here.

Spoiler:

Malkuth · 2011-12-13, 13:08

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Originally Posted by RDF2050

I got a question for those who played the game (I didn't played this game

)

Does 24 episodes can really cover all the material that the game has?

No, it is impossible. It's the difference between the media, you can not and probably don't want to animate all those endless dungeons, and it is impossible to stitch fragmented events that took place. So despite being impossible, the anime team can focus on what is worthy to watch instead of play.

Which reminds me, does anyone else find the velvet room scenes detached from the rest of the events?

spawnofthejudge · 2011-12-13, 13:14

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Originally Posted by Malkuth

Which reminds me, does anyone else find the velvet room scenes detached from the rest of the events?

Yes, and it's clear this is on purpose. I wonder if they're going to do anything special with it, or if they feel somewhat limited by Igor's VA's recent passing.

Malkuth · 2011-12-13, 13:24

^ They could remix more of his lines from the games or use Elizabeth

hyl · 2011-12-13, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Malkuth

^ They could remix more of his lines from the games or use Elizabeth

The anime is already using his lines in the game and more Margaret instead. Also you should have noticed that in 2 episodes Igor has "conviently" been away.

As for Elizabeth

Spoiler for spoiler game:

bayoab · 2011-12-13, 17:06

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Originally Posted by RDF2050

I got a question for those who played the game (I didn't played this game

)

Does 24 episodes can really cover all the material that the game has?

Depends on what you mean by "All the material." It's completely possible to fit every single story scene, social link scene, special event, boss battle, etc in. Just that if they did that, the pacing would be everywhere since the game is not evenly paced. You having to do all these other events is what helps the game keep a decent flow. Otherwise, you will get tons of things like at the end of the last ep where the game suddenly jumped nearly a month since you are given about a month in the game per dungeon. Will all the fetch quests, mini-bosses, etc fit in? Probably not.

And there are other things to consider but we're not even close to that time yet.

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Originally Posted by Malkuth

Which reminds me, does anyone else find the velvet room scenes detached from the rest of the events?

They are supposed to be. Think about how the velvet room is described by the others.

Malkuth · 2011-12-13, 18:25

^ Hm... indeed, another thing is that anime, unlike the game, takes a 3rd person perspective... storytelling-wise I dislike this approach, it is artistically inferior if not juvenile, but helps red-necks (of all countries) to understand what is going on

Oh! and my bad, playing P3P on mute, made me mix Igor's chicks' names

Somnus · 2011-12-13, 22:10

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Originally Posted by Malkuth

It's from Soejima Shigenori Artworks 2004-2010... here are the scans.

Thanks for the link, that artbook is fantastic. Thanks to this I like Mitsuru even more.

RJ TAYLER · 2011-12-13, 23:31

Love that 'signature style' of SS there, was there a hint of the future in that artbook? Or some ideas yet to come to fruition. Either way I'm still enjoying the show as a show, which means somebody is doing something right.

Dark Wing · 2011-12-14, 12:27

Yes I've finally caught up! I went from ep.3 to ep.10 in about two days taking a break in between to check on a few other series and I like what i see so fare.

The team is almost complete and we can probably get on to the main focus of finding the person tossing people into the shadow zone but that one week break is going to be a long one...

Maybe I should get around to watching Umineko No Naku Koro Ni on the mean time like I said I would?...

tsunade666 · 2011-12-15, 14:00

Spoiler for Crazy guy arc and my most dislike arc too:

The only sparkly person I recognize or remember and recognize is KUMA-SAN!!! go Kuma-kuma!

Dojima-san is really a pain in the ass and even his social link was a pain for me too

EDIT:

I don't remember how many arc the game has but I felt that it's being rushed this time around and I can't stand the poor animation. Grr they even do a steady or fix background while animating the movement of the characters and the background doesn't match the animation which makes it worst -_-

CGrascal · 2011-12-15, 15:56

Spoiler for Exposition:

Dr. Casey · 2011-12-15, 16:33

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Originally Posted by RDF2050

I got a question for those who played the game (I didn't played this game

)

Does 24 episodes can really cover all the material that the game has?

nope

I'm enjoying the anime a lot, but there's definitely quite a bit of material cut out and I think the original game is much better when it comes to both story and characterization.

ars89 · 2011-12-15, 18:21

Spoiler for ep 11:

Angelic Cross · 2011-12-15, 20:56

Spoiler for ep 11:

rpgman1 · 2011-12-15, 22:27

Kuma actually grew a body and he turns out to be such a handsome young man. I had to LOL at Kuma's head being left behind to scare that little boy twice. Naoto is on to the gang anyway. No one commented on Noriko Kashiwagi entering the classroom with her bouncing breasts and only Narukami commented on how well-endowed she is

. I thought she would sounded a lot older, but she sounded younger. He was also doing so well on final exams compared to his mid-terms. Narukami defending Nanako from that creepy fish eyes with the mole.

Dr. Casey · 2011-12-16, 00:17

Ah, Mitsuo. I've always thought he's a fascinating character, glad we've reached the part of the story that focuses on him. Mitsuo seems more forward and aggressive than I remember him being in the game (Where he was pretty much just a lonely, bitter guy that lived in the world of RPGs and was too underconfident/scared of people to confront them), but I think his more pronounced, less subtle characterization here is also nice; I thought the scene where he threatened Nanako was pretty cool... hopefully she isn't going to be traumatized by the experince and lose her love for Junes. D: The message board scene was funny and very true to rapidfire 2chan style message boards, but I found the scene a bit confusing in that most of the responses scroll by so past it's impossible to read. For us it's not too bad thanks to the magic of the Pause button, but those watching the scene on TV would be missing out on a lot since most of the responses (The source of Mitsuo's frustration) are a blur. Why make the main crux of the entire scene essentially impossible to catch? I think the scene could have been handled a lot better.

And yeah, Yu repeatedly scarring the kid with Teddie's misplaced head was hilarious.

Shades of Black Mage and Onion Kid there...

2011-12-13, 12:26	Link #1544
RDF2050 Superidol Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 34	I got a question for those who played the game (I didn't played this game ) Does 24 episodes can really cover all the material that the game has? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Off Topic: I know this is an old video but I can't resist to post this here. Spoiler: Persona 4 Real <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/luZni42sBz0">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> __________________ Last edited by RDF2050; 2011-12-13 at 12:39.

2011-12-13, 23:31	Link #1552
RJ TAYLER Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: AUSTRALIA	Love that 'signature style' of SS there, was there a hint of the future in that artbook? Or some ideas yet to come to fruition. Either way I'm still enjoying the show as a show, which means somebody is doing something right. __________________ YOURS RJ TAYLER

2011-12-14, 12:27	Link #1553
Dark Wing Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Age: 38	Yes I've finally caught up! I went from ep.3 to ep.10 in about two days taking a break in between to check on a few other series and I like what i see so fare. The team is almost complete and we can probably get on to the main focus of finding the person tossing people into the shadow zone but that one week break is going to be a long one... Maybe I should get around to watching Umineko No Naku Koro Ni on the mean time like I said I would?... __________________

2011-12-15, 14:00	Link #1554
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	Spoiler for Crazy guy arc and my most dislike arc too: Being creepy, crazy and stalker and a hikikomori which I'm the same as him but I'm not creepy,crazy and a stalker. His your typical bad type of otaku and something which I dislike when they do a stereotype bad otaku. This creepy guy give had a very good background story for him. Which make you feel more about him more than I remember but I really hate him. Nice moments with Nanako-chan and Yuu too. Go get him Onii-chan! then a good episode too with the part with Rise joining the team but it feels like they cut something from the game on that part. Specially the clingy part of her. But I can't remember if it indeed happen but I remember it happen. I'm a bit confused. Naoto being your typical detective trying to solve the case. I like it when she shows up. Star Arcana achieve and with the highlight of sparkly Kuma The only sparkly person I recognize or remember and recognize is KUMA-SAN!!! go Kuma-kuma! Dojima-san is really a pain in the ass and even his social link was a pain for me too EDIT: I don't remember how many arc the game has but I felt that it's being rushed this time around and I can't stand the poor animation. Grr they even do a steady or fix background while animating the movement of the characters and the background doesn't match the animation which makes it worst -_- __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

2011-12-15, 15:56	Link #1555
CGrascal Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Maryland	Spoiler for Exposition: The story is around 55-60% done now. They're three dungeons left after Mitsuo (4 if you include the extra best end dungeon). Oh yeah. I consider Mitsuo as being my "THAT ONE BOSS!" UGH!!

2011-12-13, 02:43	Link #1542
piccahoe Pain & Determination Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: somewhere in north cali	I'm glad they made this more about the struggle that each characters. In psychology persona is a mask one present to the world. It may appear in dreams under various guises. (wiki) I wonder if the inside of the T.V represents the "dream" part.

2011-12-13, 13:24	Link #1547
Malkuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Age: 43	^ They could remix more of his lines from the games or use Elizabeth

2011-12-13, 18:25	Link #1550
Malkuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Age: 43	^ Hm... indeed, another thing is that anime, unlike the game, takes a 3rd person perspective... storytelling-wise I dislike this approach, it is artistically inferior if not juvenile, but helps red-necks (of all countries) to understand what is going on Oh! and my bad, playing P3P on mute, made me mix Igor's chicks' names

2011-12-15, 18:21	Link #1557
ars89 One-Eyed Dragon Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ, USA	Spoiler for ep 11: Wow Kuma made it into the real world. Even better he has his own body now. So looks like we know who the killer is. Glad Narukami saved Nanako. Was hoping to see more Rise and Narukami moments but she barely had any screen time. So we know Naoto officially now. __________________ My Anime List

2011-12-15, 20:56	Link #1558
Angelic Cross Soul-eating Librarian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Within the stacks. . .waiting to devour you. . .	Spoiler for ep 11: Hmm, kind of disappointed with the scene with Dojima complaining about the department bringing in Naoto. The game version where Cabbage head drags Dojima home drunk was more interesting, IMO. Thumbs up for Yuu using the dialogue choice with the P3 reference! Also, LOL at the party being defeated by the Meat Dimension. __________________ Wherefore art thou of such sombre countenance?

2011-12-15, 22:27	Link #1559
rpgman1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Age: 43	Kuma actually grew a body and he turns out to be such a handsome young man. I had to LOL at Kuma's head being left behind to scare that little boy twice. Naoto is on to the gang anyway. No one commented on Noriko Kashiwagi entering the classroom with her bouncing breasts and only Narukami commented on how well-endowed she is . I thought she would sounded a lot older, but she sounded younger. He was also doing so well on final exams compared to his mid-terms. Narukami defending Nanako from that creepy fish eyes with the mole. Last edited by rpgman1; 2011-12-15 at 22:59.

2011-12-16, 00:17	Link #1560
Dr. Casey Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tennessee Age: 36	Ah, Mitsuo. I've always thought he's a fascinating character, glad we've reached the part of the story that focuses on him. Mitsuo seems more forward and aggressive than I remember him being in the game (Where he was pretty much just a lonely, bitter guy that lived in the world of RPGs and was too underconfident/scared of people to confront them), but I think his more pronounced, less subtle characterization here is also nice; I thought the scene where he threatened Nanako was pretty cool... hopefully she isn't going to be traumatized by the experince and lose her love for Junes. D: The message board scene was funny and very true to rapidfire 2chan style message boards, but I found the scene a bit confusing in that most of the responses scroll by so past it's impossible to read. For us it's not too bad thanks to the magic of the Pause button, but those watching the scene on TV would be missing out on a lot since most of the responses (The source of Mitsuo's frustration) are a blur. Why make the main crux of the entire scene essentially impossible to catch? I think the scene could have been handled a lot better. And yeah, Yu repeatedly scarring the kid with Teddie's misplaced head was hilarious. Shades of Black Mage and Onion Kid there...