Accel World - Anime General Discussion

[mechalord]

Originally Posted by Flawnalyst

It's hard for me to take Kuro's attraction to Haru seriously because we never actually see her going through any of this stuff that happened to her. It's just told to us really quickly, yet really slowly at the same time.

We're supposed to believe she has an accelerated consciousness and perceives the world differently. She lives most of her life online where people can be anything they want and make themselves look pretty.

She's been watching Haru for some time and compared to the dog eat dog world where she has spent a lot of her time this dude is supposed to be different from anything she's ever seen... I suppose.

Remember, she's been in "hiding." Someone tried to challenge her in school. So then she started investigating the entire student body. Haru caught her attention. She then noticed his mind was incredibly fast and at her level. She kept on watching him, I suppose. She can jack into the school cameras and audio receivers. She's been watching his life for some time. During this time, she got to like what she saw... I assume.

[zeniselv]

Originally Posted by mochichan

Anyway I honestly think Kurohime really do care about Haru. I mean if you're intending to use someone, you wouldn't take a car head on for them because you can always try to find another pawn.

well...it wouldnt be the first time someone in an anime goes such legths for fulfilling a bigger plan.

[Sixth]

Accel World is basically telling the otaku that it is indeed possible to find a beautiful girlfriend as long as she has same interest with them. Even better if you are 3~10 times powerful/skillful/dedicated than her. It helps.

But still, I don't completely trust Kuroyukihime either. I mean, the car accident probably is part of her master plans to lure Cyan Pile out from the shadow and at the same time, completely put Haru in guilty position, so that he will help her to the end (out of guilt feeling) for her ultimate quest for power.

It is just a matter of time for Kuroyukihime to reveals to Haru that Araya and other hospital staffs (nurse/doctor) are/were her partner-in-crime.

[j0x]

love episode 4, i bet the full potential of the Brain Burst program is Accelerating EVOLUTION!!!, we might see Haru become super saiyan physically (not just virtually) lol, super enhanced human beings just like Captain America XD

[mochichan]

It's still a pretty bad plan to get hit by the car because it could seriously injure her.
If Kuro is really planning something to lure out Cyan or ensure Haru total royalty, I think she's smarter than using a plan that can actually kill her. I'm still going with the theory that Kuro's attraction to Haru is more like an otaku self fulfillment until there's more sign of her being a villain.

It's understandable her name, her shady past where she betrayed her friends, and her attraction to less than attractive character do raise alot of suspicion I guess lol.

[00Coyote]

Spoiler for ep 4 rant within:

-.-

Can't say i'm surprised at the 'shocking' turn of events, but damn it Japan, stop being so predictable with your story progressions. Or at the very least, come up with a better way to present these things.

I'm not gonna go back and quote myself, because that's dumb, but they had the delinquent take Kuroyuki-hime out, with a bus (car) none the less, while de-powering her (A car can't stop me! no! zomg 99% of my points gone!), while info dumping, with the pig emo'ing, with a love confession of love at first sight, with the ever popular 'you're destined to be stronger(faster) than everyone else', with extra cheese and music that didn't fit ... didn't fit whatever mood they were trying to set. And the bloody keepsake (handkerchief AND diary with picture) with added trusted friend betrayal. oy.

All this just to give the pig a reason to fight, and to 'legitimize' his (guaranteed) crawl back from the brink of defeat to save the day, make an ally out of his (former) close friend, and fly off with the damsel (kuroyuki-hime) into the sunset. I'll bet my internet cookies that won't be a figure of speech.

How many tropes were they trying to cram into one episode? Just wow, just oww, just... did they even try to adapt the middle section beyond making it into a rushed drama CD, sped up, with pictures of a crying pig thrown in to cover the animation part? I've seen more editorial finesse in used car commercials. They were doing so well with their pacing and storytelling on the previous 3 episodes.

As much as I complain about over used tropes, storytelling mechanics and cliché, I've come to the conclusion it's not the tropes that bother me so much as how they are presented and used (duh). The most tired, overused and trite cliché can still be entertaining if presented in a novel, or different, heck, even if it is presented in a competent way I'll still find some entertainment in it.

No such luck here. They served up the tropes, dry, straight, with a flat delivery one right after another, like wooden planks on an assembly line.

Focus people! You don't have to say and shove everything down the audience's throat at once. You have 3 complementary mediums working together, the audio, the visuals and the music. This isn't a Light Novel anymore, learn to use all three for fun and profit, it really will result in a better animated show.

I'll be over here ...watching bad used car infomercials if anyone needs me.

[SQA]

Originally Posted by mechalord

We're supposed to believe she has an accelerated consciousness and perceives the world differently. She lives most of her life online where people can be anything they want and make themselves look pretty.

She's been watching Haru for some time and compared to the dog eat dog world where she has spent a lot of her time this dude is supposed to be different from anything she's ever seen... I suppose.

Remember, she's been in "hiding." Someone tried to challenge her in school. So then she started investigating the entire student body. Haru caught her attention. She then noticed his mind was incredibly fast and at her level. She kept on watching him, I suppose. She can jack into the school cameras and audio receivers. She's been watching his life for some time. During this time, she got to like what she saw... I assume.

As strange as it sounds, Kuroyukihime's infatuation with Haru is actually legitimately possible. I actually knew a guy that, as an overweight cripple, actually got a really cute girl via a MMO. They ended up being together for several years. It was a major WTF moment, truly, but it does make sense. For a character (Kuroyukihime) who spends all of her time on the Net/in the Accelerated World, Link Speed is probably the biggest sign of ability. It's "natural talent" at its peak. If you conflate Link Speed with Natural Physical Ability, it does make some sense.

What still doesn't make any sense is Haru. Seriously, after the first day, he should have been on damn cloud 9 with a hot girl spending time with him. It's called "validation", that he now has in spades. Even the most jaded would still take that validation, as it's the one thing he truly wants in life, whether he'd admit it or not. He wouldn't go on with the whole "pawn" bit. I hate to use the phrase, but Haru really needs to "grow a pair". It'll probably be another 15 episodes before he really does. This really is a "shut your brain off" series. At least until the MC improves himself.

[zeniselv]

i think haru is a very realistic character given how he is bullied, his low self esteem and the way his firnds treat him, he is someone who found something he can be good at so he is eager and willing to help someone, specially if its someone who has him mesmerized and in top of that treats him nice, but his low self esteem dont let him see himself in the same level as someone like kuroyuki wich is also why he cant see her other than using him, but since for once someone is relying and trusting him he is ok with that.

[thundrakkon]

The confession from Kuroyukihime was actually very believable. I was wondering what type of cheap trick the author was going to try and convince the audience about how Kuroyukihime loves Haruyuki, but it ended up very logical, actually. Girls usually end up liking a guy because she finds something really attractive that she values highly. In this case, it was natural talent that she strives for but he far exceeds. When a girl has everything, she looks for what she doesn't have.

This episode was very exciting. I love every minute of it. Chiyuri actually willing to give up Haru for Kuro was a bonus for her, with a minus from last week's episode, so she is now flat.

Originally Posted by noobita

But still, I don't completely trust Kuroyukihime either. I mean, the car accident probably is part of her master plans to lure Cyan Pile out from the shadow and at the same time, completely put Haru in guilty position, so that he will help her to the end (out of guilt feeling) for her ultimate quest for power.

It is just a matter of time for Kuroyukihime to reveals to Haru that Araya and other hospital staffs (nurse/doctor) are/were her partner-in-crime.

It's way too complicated a plan, and I don't think that the series is that type of series. I also don't believe she has the resources to accomplish such a feat. Furthermore, getting yourself killed would kind of defeat the purpose. She would have found a much better way to lure Cyan Pile out if she had that type of resource and strategy skills. Actually, she can make better plans with much less resources and strategies.

[grey_moon]

Loving the show so far.

Really liked how they did Kuro's confession. The way she reasoned it really worked well and for me fitted her character perfectly. Much better then the usual childhood promise yada yada...

Some people were mentioning hot girl and otaku.... Bill Gate's sperm is the second most wanted by women in China and he is about as geek as you can get.

Kuro said that she was impressed with his speed, then the fragility of his real self won her over. Now that as a reason to fall for someone makes a lot of sense to me!

I don't think she is trying to use him, because she has a lot of other "weapons" at her disposal then to sacrifice herself under a car for him. She has already shown what she is willing to do achieve her goals, but her goal can't be achieved if she is dead.

[fertygo]

Count me in as that though this eps so "full of sh*t" lol
I didn't care thought, the production value is stellar as always and the OST is great.. and dat freaking epic cliffhanger.

And in the next episode its seems epic fight about to happening, as long Sunrise milking us great duel avatar battle, I didn't care the story is bad or not.

[Ravenblitz]

Spoiler for Megami:

[Kunagisa]

Bad End.

Originally Posted by fertygo

Count me in as that though this eps so "full of sh*t" lol

That bad? Everything made so much sense to me when I read the novel (except the full physical thing).

Originally Posted by Ravenblitz

Spoiler for Megami:

[Pocari_Sweat]

... Ok... Seriously what was with this latest ep.

So I have been relatively enjoying Accel World for the past 3 episodes. Although it wasn't top tier or anything, it has been pretty solid for what it was as it has been reasonably well executed despite being an otaku wish fulfillment type of show. It's virtual reality concept and world was intriguing to me at the very least and I liked Butterfly Queen as a character. Then comes episode 4 and funny enough Kunagisa's image colleague actually reminded me of Guilty Crown in terms of bad plot revelation/progression. It's even more fitting because Yoshino (the writer for Guilty Crown) is also adapting this.

Firstly, the first half of the episode consisted of harem comedy shenanigans. Out of the blue Butterfly Queens starts like a tsundere being all jealous and all because Arita cabled with Chiyuri. Then comes that awfully cliche scene with the main character dreaming doing of "naughty" things regarding his harem. At this point, I was like "Ugh, it's probably one of the more lighthearted filler episodes", but I wasn't upset or anything. Unfortunately I was wrong as it got much worse.

That melodrama confession. Firstly, I can't take a confession to a "pig" seriously at all. Although I never disliked Arita nor his "chubbiness" or "pig form" per se unlike some people here, there's a line in terms of realism that shouldn't be crossed and this crossed it. How can you buy this "first love" bulldust for a girl of Butterfly Queen's caliber. She's smart, good looking and then she falls in love with more or less a "fatty" for pretty much no reason. And then she gets hit by a car and is now either dead or effectively paralyzed. Oh great, we have soap opera antics too!

And to top the terribleness, we get a very cliche revealment of the bad guy (Cyan Pile or whatever the name was) being Chiyu's boyfriend, Taku, MC's best friend.

So what the hell! This episode was awful. They just drove themselves into a wall in terms of plot progression with this episode. My expectations for this series has now plummeted.

[Archon_Wing]

I keep laughing when she expresses her "love" to him in pig form. And she can hide him under her skirt. Anyhow, this episode didn't do much; I guess I was distracted by the 2 main female leads to care about anything else. :S

[thundrakkon]

Originally Posted by DemiSoda

She's smart, good looking and then she falls in love with more or less a "fatty" for pretty much no reason.

A lot of relationships don't make sense, from an outside perspective. I thought they did pretty well with the inner explaination, although I do agree that her change in attitude at the first half of the episode took me by surprise.

Originally Posted by DemiSoda

And to top of the terribleness, we get a very cliche revealment of the bad guy (Cyan Pile or whatever the name was) being Chiyu's boyfriend, Taku, MC's best friend.

I think that was sort of expected since the last episode, so its not that much of a surprise. I mentioned before that I expect Chiyu as a brain burster as well, especially considering her boyfriend is one. Although, now when I think about it, if she was, then she would have shown up at the school network. Well, if she isn't now, I'm sure she will be some day.

[blewin]

that confession should have come after they have spent some time together, having experienced a lot of hardship and such. But here? No! I can't really feel that supposedly deep emotion at all! it rather feels like the usual lecture she gives to Haru.

feels like an info-dump.

but the last part of Haru staying in the hospital for an entire night and recognising who Cyan Pile is redeems some points for this anime (though having to fight your best friend is also cliche). Is Accel World supposed to be 24 or 12 episodes? At this rate, it can finish in just 5 episodes!

[MisaoFan]

Originally Posted by blewin

Is Accel World supposed to be 24 or 12 episodes? At this rate, it can finish in just 5 episodes!

It's confirmed to have 24 episodes.

While I have read the manga (I understand for the most part), there's so much hate and rage for the fourth episode.
Please stop with all that rage and be hopeful that the fifth episode will be better even though the clichés they provide are a bit overused.

[thundrakkon]

Originally Posted by blewin

At this rate, it can finish in just 5 episodes!

If you take into account it took 4 years for the original Kings to make it to level 9 (well, it took Kuroyukihime that long), it will be some time before Haru reaches level 10. He is just at level 1 right now, and he hasn't made it to level 2 in 4 episodes. I'm expecting that they will not reach that conclusion even by the time the anime ends at 24 episodes. We haven't even seen all the characters in the intro that is supposed to be part of the main group.

[GundamZZ]

Originally Posted by Kunagisa

That bad? Everything made so much sense to me when I read the novel (except the full physical thing).

This episode pretty good. Too bad, there are still people who voiced the negative opinion.

It seems the people who read novel have some disagreement.

Spoiler:

In the novel, she says that she gets higher scores than Haruyuki by cheating. In episode 1, Haruyu was playing the game. Then, he was forced out by Chiyuri. Then, kuroyukihime took over his game and claimed the credit. So, she used it to make the big impression. Haruyuki is really impressed, but kuroyukihime is more impressed by Haruyuki's reflexes. She knows that she can't accomplish it. So, she has high hope from him.

This episode clearly states that kuroyukihime is a trustworthy alley. It is just some people are still struggling to deny her sincerity; Haruyuki's self pity feeling is contagious.