Code Geass - Spoilers & Speculation (ver 2 old)

[-KarumA-]

Originally Posted by Var

Jeremiah also has apperantely caught the Shinkurou for some reason.

Lulu would prob wanna avenge Nunnally by a hea don charge

[Var]

Originally Posted by Aquaman OS

He's probably transporting him back to base at the beginning of the ep. Rolo's hijacked Sutherland is there too.

Lelouch probably couldn't move then out of despair.

Good call.

[JMvS]

Originally Posted by Isegrim

Anyway, the extended preview for Turn19 (to restore my reputation ): http://www.myvideo.de/watch/4858099

Spoiler for screencaps:

Oh My God...Ashford really was lucky lol.

As the crater end like 10 meter from the Student Council Pavillion...

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by JMvS

Oh My God...Ashford really was lucky lol.

As the crater end like 10 meter from the Student Council Pavillion...

Yeah, talk about close call O_o.

[zalem]

Originally Posted by Var

Yes, because she is really a blind/crippled spy that works for Charles. If she survived it will be because of Sayako.

Well, I don't believe the newest set of speculations (Nunnally a spy??? WTF?), but it is possible Charles saved her. Sayako is cool and all, but just a normal human she couldn't really do anything to get them out of the blast radius. If the ship managed to get out of there I'm sure Sayako would have contacted Lelouch immediately and piloted the ship to Ikuraga. Or at least the ship would have been noticed by the BK. So unless Sayako has some strange magical abilities I don't see what she could have done. However, if Charles has the same weird teleportation abilities as V.V., it's possible he grabbed her.

[Var]

Originally Posted by zalem

Well, I don't believe the newest set of speculations (Nunnally a spy??? WTF?), but it is possible Charles saved her. Sayako is cool and all, but just a normal human she couldn't really do anything to get them out of the blast radius. If the ship managed to get out of there I'm sure Sayako would have contacted Lelouch immediately and piloted the ship to Ikuraga. Or at least the ship would have been noticed by the BK. So unless Sayako has some strange magical abilities I don't see what she could have done. However, if Charles has the same weird teleportation abilities as V.V., it's possible he grabbed her.

I could see that, and you're likely right that if she were to survive it would be because of Charles. In either case though, the fake speculations went down in a ball of flames.

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by JMvS

Oh My God...Ashford really was lucky lol.

As the crater end like 10 meter from the Student Council Pavillion...

How ironic/cruel would it have been for Millay to have been running to the familar enviroment of Ashford for safety(people do run back to home or familar places in times of crisis) only to have been caught in the explosion.

Even more so if she almost made it and was atomised before Rivalz eyes.

[Ring]

Not many spoilers left to confirm. The betrayal + what did Lelouch say to Kallen and why she chose to stay are the bulk. Looks like it'll be a gloomy episode too.

I don't think we saw this part in this episode "In the end she weren't able to stop Lelouch and Suzaku's quarrel" did we?

Tracking list for the translations of the Korean blog spoilers (from Koshimizu's blog):

Spoiler:

Blue = True
Orange = Partially true
Red = False

Story

☆ Lelouch, who tries to return to humanity from his path as a demon king, loses his precious things because of it.
1. "Lover": Shirley - Killed by Rollo
2. Partner: C.C. - Currently has amnesia
3. Sister: Nunnally - Survival unknown after F.L.E.I.J.A. explosion; presumed dead.
4. "Rag": Rolo
5. Believer: Diethard
6. Organization: OotBK
7. Friend: Suzaku - Lelouch believes he betrayed him
8. Identity: Zero - No longer a secret

☆ Cornelia is captured at the Geass Cult by lelouch, but escapes to Schneizel.

☆ Ougi meets up with Viletta during the Union of Nations's takeback of Japan, and begins to doubt Zero.
• Not during the takeback of Japan. They did meet and Ougi does begin to doubt Zero.

☆ Before Ougi betrays the Order, Diethard takes Viletta hostage and threatens Ougi to continue his job as a vice commandor. This is because Ougi is able to hold all these members of different characteristics together.

☆ The Union of Nations is made up of Chinese Federation and the remains of EU. The commandor is Xingke.

☆ In sasongugomu (no idea what this is), Asahina died in the nuke attack. His last words become the keywords that made the OotBK's betray Zero.

☆ The Knights find out that Zero was a Britannian prince and think he was using them as playthings. Ougi leads the mutiny to kill Zero.

☆ C.C. loses her memory as C.C., and becomes an ordinary girl.

☆ Suzaku gets to know that Lelouch got his memories back. He confronts Lelouch, and when Lelocuh confesses that he is the reborn Zero, Schneizel, who had someone follow Suzaku, sends in forces to arrest Lelouch.

☆ The contents of Lelouch and Suzaku's conversation are recorded, including his Geass that can command people. This becomes an important factor that led to the OotBK's betrayal.

☆ Believing Suzaku had tricked him, Lelouch decides to go the path of the demon king.

☆ Nina had put her nuke on Lancelot, thinking it as a "stronger" bomb. When Suzaku uses it during his fight with Lelouch, it blew up Tokyo, killing nearly 10 million people.

☆ Nunnally's survival is unknown. Ashford, being in the outskirts of Tokyo, remains intact.

☆ The emperor wants to connect ruins in all parts of the world to Ragnarok. To destroy the old world through this, and create the new world.

☆ Kallen escapes in the new Guren. In the end she weren't able to stop Lelouch and Suzaku's quarrel. Kallen stands in the crossroads of selection, can't decide whether to betray Zero with all other Black Knights or not. A lie from Lelouch hurts her feelings and she decides to leave him. However, when she's thinking about leaving, Lelouch's last line become the key to express his true feelings to Kallen.

☆ The weakness of Rolo's geass is, it strains his heart. When all of the Black Knights betrayed, he is the only one striving to lead Lelouch to the Shinkirou. Britannia army and OotBK joined hands in the pursue. To stop them, Rolo overuses his geass and dies.

☆ Guilford ends up taking Orange's path.

☆ Schneizel, who had been collecting info on the Geass, plots against Charles.

☆ The OotBK requests to liberate Japan in return for turning over Lelouch.

☆ Diethard forsakes Lelouch too ("your broadcast ends here"). Tamaki also betrayed. The only one that's not showing intension to betray is Kallen.

☆ Ougi betrays Lelouch twice. First time it's right after meeting Viletta, but Diethard stops him. The second time is after Schenizel exposing Lelouch's identity, and even Diethard is in doubt, so there's no one to stop him.

☆ Lelouch feels responsible for C.C.'s losing memories. He wears a ring on the ring finger of C.C.'s left hand, and say, "please stay with me". C.C. calls him master (or husband? not sure) and does not leave him.
• Not a ring; a band aid on her ring finger. No "please stay with me" line or indication that he feels responsible for the memories to date. She is still with Lelouch.

☆ The reborn Jeremiah joins Lelouch with a godly mech. And becomes his personal guard.

Mech

☆ Gareth: the prototype for Gawain's mass production. (Like Vincent to Lancelot.) Without Rakshata's technology, the hydron cannon can't function, and is replaced by hydron machine gun. Slash harkens in the form of magic hands. The origin of its name is one of Gawain's younger brothers. Also has rabbit ears. The survivals of the Galston Knights will be riding these.

☆ Percival: Knight of Ten's KMF. Hadron machine gun and drill.

☆ Galahad: Knight of One's KMF. Twice the size of a regular KMF, uses a large sword (Excalibur) which is said to be the most powerful in both defense and offense.

Design details for Galahad, Percival, and Gareth.

Spoiler:

☆ Freya (or Prayer?): Nina's nukes. A few prototypes are made; Lancelot is equipped with one.

☆ Great Britannia: Wakamoto's new flying ship. Made based on Avalon.

☆ Guren with long name: Lloyd modified the captured Guren Aerial Form into this, with his original technology. Combining the intelligence of Rakshata and Lloyd, this is the most powerful KMF in history. It's totally different from previous Gurans. You can feel Lloyd's weird taste from it.

Upgraded Guren along with Lancelot Albion and Ward Air.

Spoiler:

☆ Sutherland Sieg: Enhanced and modified from the Knight Giga Fortress- Siegfried. Feels like the Dendrobium in Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory, with powerful weapons hidden inside. It's even larger than Galahad. The pilot is new Jeremiah. The color of its booster is also orange, like Siegfried. Maybe it's this one.

[TheDisruptiveOne]

Originally Posted by Var

I could see that, and you're likely right that if she were to survive it would be because of Charles. In either case though, the fake speculations went down in a ball of flames.

One of the speculations went down in flames. A fake one might have been added to throw us off the trail.

Don't take this stuff to seriously Var. It's only speculations.

I hear a Clamp drawing is missing. No Kallen drawing in the final OP. I think the missing drawing is of Kallen and Gino. Random speculation.

[Var]

Originally Posted by TheDisruptiveOne

One of the speculations went down in flames. A fake one might have been added to throw us off the trail.

Yes, clearly. Because the speculation about 'Suzaku seeking Lelouch to die' getting shot down did not count by Suzaku challenging the KoO to a duel to the death.

Originally Posted by TheDisruptiveOne

Don't take this stuff to seriously Var. It's only speculations.

Oh I'm not taking this serious, but it gets tiresome when even getting proven wrong does not stop some people.

Originally Posted by TheDisruptiveOne

I hear a Clamp drawing is missing. No Kallen drawing in the final OP. I think the missing drawing is of Kallen and Gino. Random speculation.

And I think its a picture of an alien eating Anya.

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by Ring

Not many spoilers left to confirm. The betrayal + what did Lelouch say to Kallen and why she chose to stay are the bulk. Looks like it'll be a gloomy episode too.

I don't think we saw this part in this episode "In the end she weren't able to stop Lelouch and Suzaku's quarrel" did we?

Tracking list for the translations of the Korean blog spoilers (from Koshimizu's blog):

Spoiler:

Blue = True
Orange = Partially true
Red = False

Story

☆ Lelouch, who tries to return to humanity from his path as a demon king, loses his precious things because of it.
1. "Lover": Shirley - Killed by Rollo
2. Partner: C.C. - Currently has amnesia
3. Sister: Nunnally - Survival unknown after F.L.E.I.J.A. explosion; presumed dead.
4. "Rag": Rolo
5. Believer: Diethard
6. Organization: OotBK
7. Friend: Suzaku - Lelouch believes he betrayed him
8. Identity: Zero - No longer a secret

☆ Cornelia is captured at the Geass Cult by lelouch, but escapes to Schneizel.

☆ Ougi meets up with Viletta during the Union of Nations's takeback of Japan, and begins to doubt Zero.
• Not during the takeback of Japan. They did meet and Ougi does begin to doubt Zero.

☆ Before Ougi betrays the Order, Diethard takes Viletta hostage and threatens Ougi to continue his job as a vice commandor. This is because Ougi is able to hold all these members of different characteristics together.

☆ The Union of Nations is made up of Chinese Federation and the remains of EU. The commandor is Xingke.

☆ In sasongugomu (no idea what this is), Asahina died in the nuke attack. His last words become the keywords that made the OotBK's betray Zero.

☆ The Knights find out that Zero was a Britannian prince and think he was using them as playthings. Ougi leads the mutiny to kill Zero.

☆ C.C. loses her memory as C.C., and becomes an ordinary girl.

☆ Suzaku gets to know that Lelouch got his memories back. He confronts Lelouch, and when Lelocuh confesses that he is the reborn Zero, Schneizel, who had someone follow Suzaku, sends in forces to arrest Lelouch.

☆ The contents of Lelouch and Suzaku's conversation are recorded, including his Geass that can command people. This becomes an important factor that led to the OotBK's betrayal.

☆ Believing Suzaku had tricked him, Lelouch decides to go the path of the demon king.

☆ Nina had put her nuke on Lancelot, thinking it as a "stronger" bomb. When Suzaku uses it during his fight with Lelouch, it blew up Tokyo, killing nearly 10 million people.

☆ Nunnally's survival is unknown. Ashford, being in the outskirts of Tokyo, remains intact.

☆ The emperor wants to connect ruins in all parts of the world to Ragnarok. To destroy the old world through this, and create the new world.

☆ Kallen escapes in the new Guren. In the end she weren't able to stop Lelouch and Suzaku's quarrel. Kallen stands in the crossroads of selection, can't decide whether to betray Zero with all other Black Knights or not. A lie from Lelouch hurts her feelings and she decides to leave him. However, when she's thinking about leaving, Lelouch's last line become the key to express his true feelings to Kallen.

☆ The weakness of Rolo's geass is, it strains his heart. When all of the Black Knights betrayed, he is the only one striving to lead Lelouch to the Shinkirou. Britannia army and OotBK joined hands in the pursue. To stop them, Rolo overuses his geass and dies.

☆ Guilford ends up taking Orange's path.

☆ Schneizel, who had been collecting info on the Geass, plots against Charles.

☆ The OotBK requests to liberate Japan in return for turning over Lelouch.

☆ Diethard forsakes Lelouch too ("your broadcast ends here"). Tamaki also betrayed. The only one that's not showing intension to betray is Kallen.

☆ Ougi betrays Lelouch twice. First time it's right after meeting Viletta, but Diethard stops him. The second time is after Schenizel exposing Lelouch's identity, and even Diethard is in doubt, so there's no one to stop him.

☆ Lelouch feels responsible for C.C.'s losing memories. He wears a ring on the ring finger of C.C.'s left hand, and say, "please stay with me". C.C. calls him master (or husband? not sure) and does not leave him.
• Not a ring; a band aid on her ring finger. No "please stay with me" line or indication that he feels responsible for the memories to date. She is still with Lelouch.

☆ The reborn Jeremiah joins Lelouch with a godly mech. And becomes his personal guard.

Mech

☆ Gareth: the prototype for Gawain's mass production. (Like Vincent to Lancelot.) Without Rakshata's technology, the hydron cannon can't function, and is replaced by hydron machine gun. Slash harkens in the form of magic hands. The origin of its name is one of Gawain's younger brothers. Also has rabbit ears. The survivals of the Galston Knights will be riding these.

☆ Percival: Knight of Ten's KMF. Hadron machine gun and drill.

☆ Galahad: Knight of One's KMF. Twice the size of a regular KMF, uses a large sword (Excalibur) which is said to be the most powerful in both defense and offense.

Design details for Galahad, Percival, and Gareth.

Spoiler:

☆ Freya (or Prayer?): Nina's nukes. A few prototypes are made; Lancelot is equipped with one.

☆ Great Britannia: Wakamoto's new flying ship. Made based on Avalon.

☆ Guren with long name: Lloyd modified the captured Guren Aerial Form into this, with his original technology. Combining the intelligence of Rakshata and Lloyd, this is the most powerful KMF in history. It's totally different from previous Gurans. You can feel Lloyd's weird taste from it.

Upgraded Guren along with Lancelot Albion and Ward Air.

Spoiler:

☆ Sutherland Sieg: Enhanced and modified from the Knight Giga Fortress- Siegfried. Feels like the Dendrobium in Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory, with powerful weapons hidden inside. It's even larger than Galahad. The pilot is new Jeremiah. The color of its booster is also orange, like Siegfried. Maybe it's this one.

Well after last EP the only wasy to stop the quarrel was for either Suzaku or Lelouch to die. Since she didn't kill Suzaku she failed to stop it. Therefore its partially true at least.

[Aquaman OS]

She didn't even try to stop their quarrel. In fact she gleefully attempted to carry out Lelouch's order to kill him. That could be later on but I don't think they'll be fighting again anytime soon.

[TheDisruptiveOne]

The extended preview is certainly interesting.

Who is that with a geass symbol on their hand? And what is Jeremiah doing to Lelouch?

[Vakir]

Originally Posted by TheDisruptiveOne

The extended preview is certainly interesting.

Who is that with a geass symbol on their hand? And what is Jeremiah doing to Lelouch?

That's Charles. Question is, where did the second Code go?

[Guilford]

Originally Posted by TheDisruptiveOne

The extended preview is certainly interesting.

Who is that with a geass symbol on their hand? And what is Jeremiah doing to Lelouch?

That should be Charles, same clothes and all...and what Jeremiah is doing, read some of the posts above

[Tokkan]

Originally Posted by TheDisruptiveOne

Who is that with a geass symbol on their hand?

Charles. No other person we know of who has Code. Though I'm still suspicious of where Cornelia learned of Geass.

[fruitcage]

Very interesting Extended Preview. So the Betray is supposed to happen next EP. But why is Kallen crying though? She already knows Zero=Lelouch. Could it be because of Nunnally?

Its possible that Charles' second Code is on the forehead just like CC, only to appear when used.

Cornelia looks rather excited in the preview.

[TheDisruptiveOne]

Originally Posted by fruitcage

Very interesting Extended Preview. So the Betray is supposed to happen next EP. But why is Kallen crying though? She already knows Zero=Lelouch. Could it be because of Nunnally?

Its possible that Charles' second Code is on the forehead just like CC, only to appear when used.

Cornelia looks rather excited in the preview.

She looks frantic there.

She probably just got the news about Guilford.

[SonOfHeaven]

Kallen crying could be because she finds out the OotBK are about the betray Lelouch. That's a possibility.

[Dream_Traveller]

I don't think Guilford dying would prompt Cornelia to smile, which she is doing. She's probably elated at meeting Schneizel.