Vampire Knight Guilty - Episode 5 Discussion/Poll

[White Manju Bun]

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[Starry Dust]

I personally found it rushed in the beginning ( probably to just emphasize the second confrontation of Yuuki and Kaname ) but the transitions from scene to scene bugged me.

I didn't feel that satisfied when they did my most two favorites moments from the series.
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Then again, what can I expect? lol
Anywayz, average/good episode. Animation was a bit wonky but kept up throughout the episode. I only watched it raw so obviously the only thing I understood in Japanese was Kaname saying "I love you" lol xD

Ugh...I'm just itching for us to hit "that" part now.
If you read the manga, you know what I'm talking about ^__~

[Kaoru Chujo]

I could make a similar criticism to what BunnyCupCakes said: that it sometimes seemed rushed. But... The tremendous emotional effects the whole thing had on me are hard to criticize, though, so I won't. Maybe it only seemed rushed because I wanted more of every scene.

I haven't been a big fan of how Horie Yui has handled the character, but she did some of the emotional moments in this episode extremely well, I thought.

[Mirakuru]

Spoiler for ep5:

Wow~ the anime is gradually nearing the climax of this arc.. already! I'm really hoping that means that they'll spend more time on certain scenes, and maybe even add some scenes to add more coverage where the manga could have elaborated on (I really really would like that). The animation was not as good as in previous episodes, but it wasn't really bad or anything.. again, I'm just hoping that this is an indicator for stellar scenes to come. ^^

I know that this season is supposed to be more Kaname-centric than the last, but there seems to be an abundance of Zero scenes (not that I mind xD). Like, they're plopping him here and there in Kaname x Yuuki scenes. Or.. maybe it just seems that way because I pay extra attention to every scene involving Zero. ^^;;

I agree that this episode didn't have the best scene transitions. >.>; I think the manga as a whole has been far superior in depicting the biting scenes in comparison to the anime, but I think that's because nothing can beat the original. This episode's scene was fine though, I just always wish they would show more of the actual biting. xD

Yay for Ichiru appearances this episode~! ^^ I didn't realize how much I liked him until the anime began airing. xD And I know many people disagree, but I actually really like his hairstyle in the anime. =P At first it took some getting used to, but I'm really becoming quite fond of it. xD

It's too bad that we didn't get a continuation of the cliffhanger in episode 4. D= I suppose the staff is trying to prolong the anticipation as long as possible. xD I'm guessing that we'll get the 'aftermath' in episode 6, because of the arrangement of events in the manga. Hopefully the upcoming episodes will maintain the level of excitement in the manga~ ^^

[fainessae]

lol, like everyone else, I feel things are being rushed too much. I really don't understand the amount of rushing and changing; it just seems too extreme. I hope that things begin to slow down a bit soon; it'd make the story flow much more smoothly ;_;

Animation was as poor as always; I feel like I have nothing but complaints for the anime. I was a bit surprised with the things they chose to cut out from the counterpart manga scenes, and I was also surprised by a few of the things they added in. So confusing. ;D

@Mirakuru - You're not alone in feeling there was quite a bit of Zero in this episode. I've been a bit surprised myself at how much Zero has been popping up; I generally consider this section the Kaname/Yuuki section of the story. But for all of this, there's a lot of Zero that they've cut out/altered, which is a bit surprising given how much he keeps popping up in spite of this.

Yuuki's reactions this episode were a bit more extreme than I expected, but I enjoyed them nonetheless.

[LightningZERO]

This episode does feel rushed. Especially the part of Zero meeting Kaname and then bites him. Weird transitions...

Ichiru finally enters the school...I want more Zero and Ichiru interaction!

Well, Kaname confesses his love for Yuki, and tries to avoid the subject of Yuki's past. Poor Zero....he doesn't look so happy at all

[sedukshun]

I think I'm starting to hate Kaname more and more...

Yuuki isn't happy... but she is just confused I guess... Silly girl

My love goes to Zero, Kaname is getting on my nerves ¬_¬

[xoxobleach]

'm glad yuki finds it weird why kanama loves her...i still dun get why he does also even while reading the manga till 44.

[Sinestra]

Well like everyone i felt it was a bit rushed they actually tried to cram a lot of things including Yuuki's emotions and Kaname's emotions and it kind of worked out ok. I couldnt help but to feel weird during this episode like something was out of place. Oh well Zero is going through some rough times right now and the introduction of Ichiru in the school leads to a scene that i hope they do well because it really is the culmination of everything the twins have gone through and for the first time in a long time you actually see some brotherly love.

We are getting closer and closer to the truth of Yuuki's past and i thikn a lot of people will find it quite interesting. Once again a lot of the waking dreams and symbols including the OP and ED give many hints away that is once aspect of the series that i like i just dont like how rushed things seemed to be getting at this point.

[golthin]

Originally Posted by fainessae

Yuuki's reactions this episode were a bit more extreme than I expected, but I enjoyed them nonetheless.

they also made Zero role more emotionally involved than in the manga. This is one of those cases where the Anime is far superior than the manga. It is amazing how a few little changes made everything more dramatic. I wish I had not read the manga because now I am disappointed about the possible pairings.

[Dark Faith]

Ooo, spoiler! Not that I mind, since I'm a manga reader, but I think you've crushed the excitement for plenty of others :P

As for the episode itself.. no major complaints, only too much Zero. Wherever you look, there's Zero. Give Kaname and Yuuki some alone time already.

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

Who does Yuki really love sometimes it feels like she likes Zero and other times she likes Kaname.

[golthin]

Originally Posted by SkoolRumble4Ya

Who does Yuki really love sometimes it feels like she likes Zero and other times she likes Kaname.

She loves Kaname as a man and Zero as a brother. Of course, both Zero and Kaname see yuuki as a woman. Now, things might change once certain big event happens, her feelings might change.

[Guido]

At first I felt uncomfortable at how the pacing to reveal Yuuki's past was rushing up in a hurry, but I recalled how in the last season Yuuki grew-up from that naive little girl, who always admired Kaname as her dear saviour, into a conflicted teenager torn by the fact that her dear Kaname has been lying to her concealing the truth of her memories.

The cliffhanger at the end was surprisingly gripping, and the development that led to Yuuki's confrontation with Kaname was solidly engaging and immersive.

Spoiler:

I believe the fault is equally shared among Kaname and Zero because both desire to make Yuuki stay ignorant about the memories of her past and lived in glass world of fake happiness. although the two see and lover as a woman.

It feels to me as they are deciding Yuuki's fate with the least amount of sins and burden, as possible. Honestly, that's the same as treating Yuuki as a helpless child girl that cannot stand on her own.

Whatever memories Zero grasped from drinking Kaname's blood are going to shake off whatever innocence remains on Yuuki, dramatically changing her outlook and judgement upon Kaname and maybe Zero.

Thing also how is she going to cope with that upcoming reality, that will shatter her.

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by golthin

they also made Zero role more emotionally involved than in the manga. This is one of those cases where the Anime is far superior than the manga. It is amazing how a few little changes made everything more dramatic. I wish I had not read the manga because now I am disappointed about the possible pairings.

Im a little nervous about the pairings too but im not counted my chicken before they hatch. I have a sinking feeling that someone is not destined to survive at the end. I know that Yuuki will survive but there is not enough room for Zero and Kaname. I know what pair im pulling for but I will keep that my secret for now.