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Galaxian · 2014-03-17, 20:35

So much already going on in Gaim and we're not even half way through the series yet.

Fireminer · 2014-03-19, 09:37

Has anyone notice that the stepping stones that Takatora walked (episode 20, the scene where the three Inves of Helheim appeared) sound like metal boxes, not stones?

Frontier · 2014-03-20, 16:22

I thought Kouta was pretty darn awesome in this episode. From managing to steal Minato's Cherry Lock Seed, which is pretty impressive considering how skilled she is, to infiltrating Yggdrasil to stop the Scalar System

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And my favorite part of the episode? Gaim finally wounding Zangetsu

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Sure Takatora then took the liberty of, and seemingly enjoying the opportunity to, break Kouta's resolve by revealing the truth about Yuya but still

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Poor Kouta though

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I had an inkling as to what Project Ark entailed, but I wasn't expecting it to also consist of practically committing outright genocide on humanity to reduce the number of Invess. I mean, I get the logic behind it, but still

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More and more, I'm getting the inkling that Kouta and Takatora's relationship is a potential reflection of how Shirou and Kiritsugu Emiya of the Fate franchise would've interacted with one another if they had both been participating in the Grail War

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We have Takatora, a guy who likely once truly believed in justice, but after growing older, and more cynical, and seeing the truth about Helheim, gave up on his ideals and the hope of any better option to save humanity. That's part of the reason he's so fixated on breaking Kouta, because if someone as strong as Takatora couldn't rise above despair and maintain his moral beliefs, then there's no way Kouta can. And if someone as idealistic and adamant about justice can't face such cynical and horrible truths head on, and still maintain a belief in righteousness, then it proves Takatora right. Unfortunately for Takatora, he's never met a true Kamen Rider

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The only thing that stands a chance of stopping the Helheim invasion, preventing Yggdrasil's plans, and saving Zawame is a Kamen Rider. Now all Kouta needs to do is rise above his guilt and continue to fight, and with kachidoki, it looks like he'll finally have the power to really make a difference

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demino_hellsin · 2014-03-22, 22:48

Judging by what Ryoma said in episode 22... does it mean that so long as someone wears a driver with a lockseed, they won't need to eat or drink? Since he says nutrients and the like are absorbed from the lockseed via the driver? O.o

Lhklan · 2014-03-23, 01:53

Spoiler for Ep 23: Kachidoki Arms debut:

MeisterBabylon · 2014-03-23, 02:39

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Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

Judging by what Ryoma said in episode 22... does it mean that so long as someone wears a driver with a lockseed, they won't need to eat or drink? Since he says nutrients and the like are absorbed from the lockseed via the driver? O.o

Its a space suit. Which works even fucking more for my plans than it already has.

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Originally Posted by Lhklan

Spoiler for Ep 23: Kachidoki Arms debut:

He's Gilgamesh. Look at all the things that he has done. Look at the way he wants to make things happen. Look inside your heart and know that it's true. >:3

Darkman.exe213 · 2014-03-23, 05:09

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Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

Judging by what Ryoma said in episode 22... does it mean that so long as someone wears a driver with a lockseed, they won't need to eat or drink? Since he says nutrients and the like are absorbed from the lockseed via the driver? O.o

I think this might be a possibility, if helheim completely invades the earth then none of the current food sources will be safe for normal humans to eat

Rokumonsen · 2014-03-23, 07:41

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Originally Posted by Lhklan

Spoiler for Ep 23: Kachidoki Arms debut:

Spoiler for Speculation:

GDB · 2014-03-23, 20:34

Wow, Kachidori is a freaking tank. Took slashes from the bowblade as if he were merely being shoved, and took an energy shot from it as if he had only been kicked. And Sagara's more than just "in the know" as far as Helheim goes, which is nuts. Yet the future sight Mai look-a-like doesn't entirely seem to know who he is, either (at the very least, she's surprised he knows who she is, which would imply she doesn't know him any better than anyone else she's appeared before). Glad she finally came back, since it's been a while since she showed up.

As for the actual plot, I wonder if Kaito's going to somehow get an Overlord Lock Seed or something. He was already becoming rather insignificant in terms of power due to the energy locks, but now with the overlords and kachidori arms he's falling even further back.

Also... was it just me, or was Kouta totally channeling his inner Touma there? Destroying the world's illusions (rules) and all.

PzIVf3 · 2014-03-23, 23:00

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Just posting the sexy uh pretty brothers

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MeisterBabylon · 2014-03-23, 23:41

Posers. Lol!!

Kanon · 2014-03-24, 10:28

That was an AMAZING episode. To think we're not even halfway through the series. I can't wait to see what else they have in store for us. Kachidoki arms didn't disappoint. It's pretty overpowered. Will Kouta even need to use the energy locks anymore now that he has this? Cherry is good thanks to the superspeed, but Lemon seems obsolete.

DJ Sagara is a very mysterious character. He's definitely no normal human. My bet is on him being an overlord. By the way, the Overlord Kaito thought against is voiced by Tomokazu Sugita, it's obvious he's going to learn to talk at some point. You don't get somebody like Sugita just to mumble gibberish.

GDB · 2014-03-24, 10:31

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Originally Posted by Kanon

By the way, the Overlord Kaito thought against is voiced by Tomokazu Sugita, it's obvious he's going to learn to talk at some point. You don't get somebody like Sugita just to mumble gibberish.

So basically... you're saying the true identity of the Woman at the Beginning is Haruhi?

Galaxian · 2014-03-24, 19:13

I don't understand... It just doesn't make sense to me...

How is Kachidoki not Gaim's final form?!

By far the coolest mid-season power up in the entire franchise (yes, even better than All Dragon).

Can't wait for its Figuart... So help me god if it ends up being an exclusive...

Fireminer · 2014-03-24, 20:42

Well, first, that form look ugly. A bit better than TV Version Blade King Form (the figure version is much more beautiful), but still ugly. Secondly, the DJ Gun... It's like Faiz Blaster, but not enough power.

demino_hellsin · 2014-03-28, 01:38

...Fire, I have no idea what your problem is. BATTLE ARMOR LIKE THAT ISN'T MEANT TO LOOK PRETTY. IT'S MEANT TO SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF ENEMIES!

well for the most part it failed in scaring any of them off... except Ryoma.

Where Ryugen took Dandeliner shots and went flying, Kachidoki just walks around wondering what the hell is going on.

Fireminer · 2014-03-28, 03:04

Let's see... The principle of Kamen Rider's armor: Simple is best. The only thing I could tolerate are wings.

demino_hellsin · 2014-03-28, 05:01

It looks wonderful in motion though. I doubt they were supposed to be so flappy but they r remind me so much of studded leather armor that I don't mind at all.

Fireminer · 2014-03-28, 09:07

Does anyone get the vibe that Helheim (represented by Sagara) is molding Kouta and Kaito into the perfect warriors, and then let them faced each other to determinate the Ruler of Helheim? Just like Black and Shadow Moon.

Also, how many shot could DJ Gun fire before Kouta has to spin the disk? It's not a one-shot musket, that is for sure.

GDB · 2014-03-28, 11:47

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Originally Posted by Fireminer

Also, how many shot could DJ Gun fire before Kouta has to spin the disk? It's not a one-shot musket, that is for sure.

Without rewatching it, there are lights as he spins it. I figure that determines the mode and number of shots when not in "machine gun" mode.

2014-03-20, 16:22	Link #1063
Frontier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	I thought Kouta was pretty darn awesome in this episode. From managing to steal Minato's Cherry Lock Seed, which is pretty impressive considering how skilled she is, to infiltrating Yggdrasil to stop the Scalar System . And my favorite part of the episode? Gaim finally wounding Zangetsu . Sure Takatora then took the liberty of, and seemingly enjoying the opportunity to, break Kouta's resolve by revealing the truth about Yuya but still . Poor Kouta though . I had an inkling as to what Project Ark entailed, but I wasn't expecting it to also consist of practically committing outright genocide on humanity to reduce the number of Invess. I mean, I get the logic behind it, but still . More and more, I'm getting the inkling that Kouta and Takatora's relationship is a potential reflection of how Shirou and Kiritsugu Emiya of the Fate franchise would've interacted with one another if they had both been participating in the Grail War . We have Takatora, a guy who likely once truly believed in justice, but after growing older, and more cynical, and seeing the truth about Helheim, gave up on his ideals and the hope of any better option to save humanity. That's part of the reason he's so fixated on breaking Kouta, because if someone as strong as Takatora couldn't rise above despair and maintain his moral beliefs, then there's no way Kouta can. And if someone as idealistic and adamant about justice can't face such cynical and horrible truths head on, and still maintain a belief in righteousness, then it proves Takatora right. Unfortunately for Takatora, he's never met a true Kamen Rider . The only thing that stands a chance of stopping the Helheim invasion, preventing Yggdrasil's plans, and saving Zawame is a Kamen Rider. Now all Kouta needs to do is rise above his guilt and continue to fight, and with kachidoki, it looks like he'll finally have the power to really make a difference . __________________

2014-03-23, 01:53	Link #1065
Lhklan The Unpronounceable Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Clock Tower	Spoiler for Ep 23: Kachidoki Arms debut: Ho. Ly. Shit. Kachidoki does not fail to impress. One Man Army against an army of Kurokage Troopers AND their Dandeliners. And even when Zangetsu blasted him off the tower he still managed to accomplish his objective: Destroying the Scalar System. Also, what the hell is up with DJ Sagara? Not only can he makes Lockseed out of an orange, he even know the Mysterious Girl.

2014-03-23, 23:00	Link #1070
PzIVf3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Somewhere at Earth	Images Just posting the sexy uh pretty brothers Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? Last edited by CrowKenobi; 2014-03-24 at 00:29. Reason: Please use either thumbnails or the images tag for large images (imgur DOES offer thumbnail code).

2014-03-23, 23:41	Link #1071
MeisterBabylon ~ Your Smile ~ Author Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 346Pro Age: 38	Posers. Lol!! __________________ 白露型駆逐艦の４番艦、夕立です。第三次ソロモン海戦では、けっこう頑張ったっぽい★？

2014-03-24, 10:28	Link #1072
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	That was an AMAZING episode. To think we're not even halfway through the series. I can't wait to see what else they have in store for us. Kachidoki arms didn't disappoint. It's pretty overpowered. Will Kouta even need to use the energy locks anymore now that he has this? Cherry is good thanks to the superspeed, but Lemon seems obsolete. DJ Sagara is a very mysterious character. He's definitely no normal human. My bet is on him being an overlord. By the way, the Overlord Kaito thought against is voiced by Tomokazu Sugita, it's obvious he's going to learn to talk at some point. You don't get somebody like Sugita just to mumble gibberish. __________________

2014-03-17, 20:35	Link #1061
Galaxian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	So much already going on in Gaim and we're not even half way through the series yet.

2014-03-19, 09:37	Link #1062
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Has anyone notice that the stepping stones that Takatora walked (episode 20, the scene where the three Inves of Helheim appeared) sound like metal boxes, not stones?

2014-03-22, 22:48	Link #1064
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Judging by what Ryoma said in episode 22... does it mean that so long as someone wears a driver with a lockseed, they won't need to eat or drink? Since he says nutrients and the like are absorbed from the lockseed via the driver? O.o

2014-03-23, 20:34	Link #1069
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Wow, Kachidori is a freaking tank. Took slashes from the bowblade as if he were merely being shoved, and took an energy shot from it as if he had only been kicked. And Sagara's more than just "in the know" as far as Helheim goes, which is nuts. Yet the future sight Mai look-a-like doesn't entirely seem to know who he is, either (at the very least, she's surprised he knows who she is, which would imply she doesn't know him any better than anyone else she's appeared before). Glad she finally came back, since it's been a while since she showed up. As for the actual plot, I wonder if Kaito's going to somehow get an Overlord Lock Seed or something. He was already becoming rather insignificant in terms of power due to the energy locks, but now with the overlords and kachidori arms he's falling even further back. Also... was it just me, or was Kouta totally channeling his inner Touma there? Destroying the world's illusions (rules) and all.

2014-03-24, 19:13	Link #1074
Galaxian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	I don't understand... It just doesn't make sense to me... How is Kachidoki not Gaim's final form?! By far the coolest mid-season power up in the entire franchise (yes, even better than All Dragon). Can't wait for its Figuart... So help me god if it ends up being an exclusive...

2014-03-24, 20:42	Link #1075
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Well, first, that form look ugly. A bit better than TV Version Blade King Form (the figure version is much more beautiful), but still ugly. Secondly, the DJ Gun... It's like Faiz Blaster, but not enough power.

2014-03-28, 01:38	Link #1076
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	...Fire, I have no idea what your problem is. BATTLE ARMOR LIKE THAT ISN'T MEANT TO LOOK PRETTY. IT'S MEANT TO SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF ENEMIES! well for the most part it failed in scaring any of them off... except Ryoma. Where Ryugen took Dandeliner shots and went flying, Kachidoki just walks around wondering what the hell is going on.

2014-03-28, 03:04	Link #1077
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Let's see... The principle of Kamen Rider's armor: Simple is best. The only thing I could tolerate are wings.

2014-03-28, 05:01	Link #1078
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	It looks wonderful in motion though. I doubt they were supposed to be so flappy but they r remind me so much of studded leather armor that I don't mind at all.

2014-03-28, 09:07	Link #1079
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Does anyone get the vibe that Helheim (represented by Sagara) is molding Kouta and Kaito into the perfect warriors, and then let them faced each other to determinate the Ruler of Helheim? Just like Black and Shadow Moon. Also, how many shot could DJ Gun fire before Kouta has to spin the disk? It's not a one-shot musket, that is for sure.