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Old 2013-10-28, 16:18   Link #341
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Not to me. For one thing, she's actually very nice, open minded, and accepting, considering her probable upbringing. And changing to become more so.

For another, it would be a few seconds of "satisfaction" (because we can't all find joy in hitting little girls) at the expense of a chance for real, durable change.



So how come there even is a Middle East any more? Why aren't they all singing the Star Spangled Banner over there?

Best case scenario, the Japanese become the oppressors. There's no way that would end well.
OK, stupidity damage control time:

Good point, I suppose the great disparity between technology levels probably would not make it any different from The Middle East, in fact, it would probably make things worse.

As much as I think in terms of comparing Eldant to the French or Russian Revolution, the big difference is that in France and Russia, the people of the country overthrew their own leaders. Not to mention ushering in utter chaos and another dictatorial regime.

Point being, a country won't change unless the people want to change. Still, once the level of literacy increases (though that might take centuries), I wonder what will happen the people of Eldant find out about the French and Russian revolutions, not to mention the existence of forms of government other than absolute monarchy.

Also, as per watching Miusel hit Petrarca, I am in no way a sadist, or violent towards women, I am very much opposed to that. Its just that sometimes when characters lay on the tsundere a little too strong, it gets on my nerves. Especially when said tsundere is also an absolute monarch... one of the worse combinations I could think of...

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Yeah, secure rights of ones by, stealing them from others, great idea
That was my admittedly less sane side speaking, and in reality, revenge does not equal justice.

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It never activated so it's not like we know how powerful it was. Not mentioned it was never said it's most powerful weapon in existence only most powerful rebels was able get.

And last point from what we saw one offensive mage (like maid girl) could easily took out tank and considering that almost every single citizen here train to enlist to army, there might be plenty of such.
Still, If it did come down to blows between Japan and Eldant, I have no doubt in my mind that Japan would be victorious, especially considering the length of time that it takes to cast a spell compared to pull a trigger, as well as the fact that many of the soldiers still use swords, suggesting they can't use magic. And, Miusel was said to be an uncommonly powerful mage. That said, while it would probably end in victory for the Japan, it would likely still result at least moderately high casualties.
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Old 2013-10-28, 16:35   Link #342
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As literacy of folks rise new demands for rights will appear, but not necessary for demokracy which would come into play far later. With reasonable nobility it goes gradualy :

Monarch -> constitutional monarch -> demokracy

Is also interesting that both in constitutional monarchy and early demokracy skilled nobles was usualy elected by their people.

Of course if nobility didn't realised power of masses and just overulled any demands, it might get nasty.
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Old 2013-10-28, 16:55   Link #343
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Things take time. And I don't think an outside power using the force of arms is an accelerant.
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Old 2013-10-28, 18:50   Link #344
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Despite all I said, for example in Japan it worked quite well. Actualy I findot of parables here.
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Old 2013-10-28, 22:16   Link #345
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Despite all I said, for example in Japan it worked quite well. Actualy I findot of parables here.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if that might be a plan B if the cultural imperialism thing doesn't work out... Also, they did go through that little fascist period you might have heard of....

That said, more likely when connections between Eldant and Japan are more fully established, the Japanese might be more wise to use economic constraints to encourage the adoption of basic human rights standards, for instance, if they plan to start selling video games and anime, they're going to need electricity.

Japan could simply construct more of those wind turbines like the one they built near the school and import other modern conveniences on the condition that Eldant adhere to a timetable to grant basic human rights to elves, dwarves, non-nobles etc. Once Eldant discovers the value of modern conveniences, they'd get to work on that real quick!

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Old 2013-10-30, 15:10   Link #346
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All I see is a lot of wasted potential in this series, sure they've addressed issues such as democracy, education and class/racial equality but can't they go all the way? Like maybe supply Eldant with cannons and muskets and let them conquer that world and when Eldant is the top country japan swoops down with tanks, battleships and nuclear weapons and takes that entire world as their own? If only the country they landed in was ruled by a military general or something and not by a loli..

lol i'm only exaggerating, but when you have a magical bomb that is supposed to be a WMD but can be diffused with a simple fire extinguisher, it's not hard to imagine how to take over that world.

of course we know this series' focus is on the spread of "otaku culture", and while for me it is a form of invasion and is not relevant to my point, I'm quite interested in what "otaku culture" would've been like if say, this series was made around a decade ago. I'm quite sure that instead of "top/bottom" "absolute territory" and other things, they would've taught "hyoi gattai" "kamehameha" and "law of equivalent exchange"
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Old 2013-10-30, 15:46   Link #347
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Technological superiority (which is debatable to start with - their magic just means they've developed along different lines, they may not be as inferior as we think) isn't always enough to conquer people. Or keep them conquered.
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Old 2013-10-30, 15:53   Link #348
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I actually prefer the premise of the series as it is now. It's about the way culture works, and how it's so vital to diffrent societies. I think the only real problem is that the harem antics while topical is just not very well handled. Had this series been a better exploration of it's own genre, it wouldn't be so earnest in using these poor techniques that Harem shows always seem to use such as throwing on extra harem members whenever the plot stalls.
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Old 2013-10-30, 18:20   Link #349
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One of my favorite series, and this is only the icing on the cake
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Old 2013-10-30, 18:25   Link #350
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Had this series been a better exploration of it's own genre, it wouldn't be so earnest in using these poor techniques that Harem shows always seem to use such as throwing on extra harem members whenever the plot stalls.
It's kind of surprising, and frankly amazing, how the author went from Scrapped Princess, to Macademy Wasshoi, to this, and I don't say this in a negative manner.
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Old 2013-10-30, 20:22   Link #351
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Well I really like Macademy Wasshoi and I am enjoying this one too.
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Old 2013-10-30, 21:30   Link #352
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If the annoying princess was there, she would become violent after seeing their oppai size =w=
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Old 2013-10-31, 03:42   Link #353
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If the annoying princess was there, she would become violent after seeing their oppai size =w=
She could just go nopan. I'm sure she'd outdo them both if she did. =)
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Old 2013-10-31, 12:27   Link #354
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Old 2013-10-31, 13:10   Link #355
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Old 2013-10-31, 21:49   Link #357
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Old 2013-11-01, 09:14   Link #358
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Might be a dumb question but does anyone know if BT is translating the volumes? In english, spanish or german?
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Old 2013-11-01, 17:26   Link #359
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It's always interesting and fun watching Kanou teach ^^
Those "kids" sure have adapted to otaku ways rather easily.
Miusel truly is like a real life game/visual novel/manga/anime character.
I kinda like her the most of all the girls.
Elbia is sort of ok, but she totally has a scary side.
Fun episode.
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Old 2013-11-01, 18:12   Link #360
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It's nice that they're arguing about game preferences rather than race, but I'm waiting for them to form multi-species alliances based on those preferences. (I mean, we saw elf girls against dwarf boys, even if it was over game. I want to see dwarf, elf and human big breast lovers against dwarf, elf and human flat-chest lovers.)

Also, am I the only one who thinks Shinichi isn't making enough of an effort to provide context and accessibility? But then, his lessons work anyway.
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