AnimeSuki Forums

Nachtwandler · 2022-12-18, 07:06

Considering, how Kuuya ended... She was an odd character, being plot-relevant but not even getting in the Hakuoros harm or family like other girls.

Meanwhile, was ep. 26 actually the first time Kuon called herself Hakuoros daughter in the anime and Yuzuha being mentioned as her biological mother or am I forgetting something?

AC-Phoenix · 2022-12-18, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

Considering, how Kuuya ended... She was an odd character, being plot-relevant but not even getting in the Hakuoros harm or family like other girls.

Meanwhile, was ep. 26 actually the first time Kuon called herself Hakuoros daughter in the anime and Yuzuha being mentioned as her biological mother or am I forgetting something?

It was mostly hinted by the tail alone for a long time, until at some point they confirmed that Yuzuha was the mother. I don't remember her having said clearly that Hakuoro was the father though. (I even missed it in EP26). I couldn't have been anyone else than Hakuoro to begin with though.

For the first episode I thought she was Karulas daughters though, since Yuzuha wasn't exactly associated with that kind of strength.

Regrading Kuuya:
I had even forgotten that she existed until I saw the exo suits again.
Afterwards I wondered whether she got mentally stable again, and couldn't find anything because I had completely forgotten her name.

Nachtwandler · 2022-12-18, 14:46

You miss the point here. I know explicitely who her parents are from the games. I am just saying that they were sort of omittong stating it in the anime as her birth was cut from the first season (probably, bacause they had no sequel plans when).

Quote:

I don't remember her having said clearly that Hakuoro was the father though. (I even missed it in EP26).

CR blocks making screenshots for some reason so it is a bit junky but here is the exact moment:

AC-Phoenix · 2022-12-18, 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

You miss the point here. I know explicitely who her parents are from the games. I am just saying that they were sort of omittong stating it in the anime as her birth was cut from the first season (probably, bacause they had no sequel plans when).

CR blocks making screenshots for some reason so it is a bit junky but here is the exact moment:

I know you knew it before, I just confirmed your suspicion that no one had said it before.

Very possible that I missed her saying it, I was binge watching myself to sleep with the 2nd season yesterday

Also good to know that it's actually CR blocking it.. I was already questioning whether CR was the problem, when someone else managed to post a screenshot in the spyX Family thread.

SidVicious · 2022-12-19, 04:18

Looks like episodes 27 and 28 will be airing together.

https://twitter.com/UtawareAnime/sta...51434060210176

Nachtwandler · 2022-12-19, 04:26

Yes, it was known for a few weeks already.

FlareKnight · 2022-12-19, 19:23

I'll give them this. Was about to criticize the ending for being way too weak the way it was going. So hey, Kuon's power going berserk should at least create something interesting out of it.

Honestly I just always presumed she was Yuzuha's daughter. Although maybe I read a spoiler on that at some point and got the knowledge from there. Regardless it makes sense with the rest of the original harem basically being pseudo mothers for Kuon.

Guess we'll see how this wraps up. But I'm sure it'll still just end in tragedy anyways. So just kind of dragging it out in that sense

.

Nachtwandler · 2022-12-20, 03:00

Let's say it will end happily for some characters, but, obviously, not for Haku.

magnuskn · 2022-12-20, 08:12

It's not like anybody really cares about the characters other than Kuon and Haku (and the legacy characters from the first series), since their characterization is so paper thin with the vast majority of them that they seem like elevated background characters. Which got even more apparent in the last episodes, when they were made out to be totally incompetent against the new threats, after they failed three teenagers with little combat experience from getting to Haku.

AC-Phoenix · 2022-12-20, 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I'll give them this. Was about to criticize the ending for being way too weak the way it was going. So hey, Kuon's power going berserk should at least create something interesting out of it.

Honestly I just always presumed she was Yuzuha's daughter. Although maybe I read a spoiler on that at some point and got the knowledge from there. Regardless it makes sense with the rest of the original harem basically being pseudo mothers for Kuon.

Guess we'll see how this wraps up. But I'm sure it'll still just end in tragedy anyways. So just kind of dragging it out in that sense

.

I just remembered... Didn't they even show baby Kuon in Yuzuzha's arms at the end of the original Utawarerumono?

Nachtwandler · 2022-12-21, 05:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

I just remembered... Didn't they even show baby Kuon in Yuzuzha's arms at the end of the original Utawarerumono?

Original game had Oboro with Kuon in his arms on Yuzuhas grave. Anime altered this scene.

Nachtwandler · 2022-12-24, 16:29

A bit of a pity for Kuon. Now it's her time to chase for the god.

At least

Spoiler:

.

Also, I was happy they re-did the graveyard scene from S1 final.

Overall, I probably liked this season almost as much as the first one. To bad second anime was pretty bad as an adaptation.

AC-Phoenix · 2022-12-24, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

A bit of a pity for Kuon. Now it's her time to chase for the god.

At least

Spoiler:

.

Also, I was happy they re-did the graveyard scene from S1 final.

Overall, I probably liked this season almost as much as the first one. To bad second anime was pretty bad as an adaptation.

He didn't get to see his daughter though... And will probably inherit her paperwork.

So I guess the next part of the Story will be titled "Utawarerumono: Where on Earth is Haku Sandiego".

magnuskn · 2022-12-25, 15:08

Well, they got me to catch an emotion in the last ten minutes of the last episode, so good for them. Still, it had to be bittersweet in some way, so Kuon probably will forever search for Haku.

Good for Hakuoro, though. I hope he likes paperwork.

6,5/10 in total for this and the last season, since I never really connected with any characters outside of Kuon and maybe Anju and the character work was spotty at best for most of the side characters.

FlareKnight · 2022-12-26, 02:13

On the positive side things worked out fantastically for Hakuoro

. All the powers that were an utter pain and restraining him got taken and he can just live his life. His life is in great shape now

. Got a lovely wife in Eruruu to actually stay with this time and can theoretically do whatever he wants. Though maybe for the best if he returns to rule over Tuskuru. It's been doing ok, but Kuon never stays around long enough to rule over anything and Oboro got saddled with the job for a long time after Hakuoro left. I feel like everyone would be pretty happy to have him back in charge honestly.

The franchise does love bittersweet endings. But this time I'm fine with it. Mostly because I have surprisingly little emotional attachment to anyone in this sequel's cast. There's some sympathy for all these girls utterly desperate to find Haku that just never will. Maybe they can also get dream sequence visits, but that seems to be the limit. It's kind of fun in a sense that they are all working hard and eager to see him, while he's totally fine hanging out in that boundary space. Taking up Hakuoro's powers and happily staying there for eternity.

I respect the girls for their amazing optimism. The guy died, reappeared, and then disappeared again. I guess pattern allows for him to randomly appear again. But they are all really confident about something that seems incredibly unlikely.

While I can't say the sequel series (both parts) was anything great, it did resolve the lingering bittersweet ending for the original series. I'm really happy for Hakuoro, Eruruu, and company. It's kind of too bad the other main cast members won't find out Hakuoro is back very quickly since they are all off on journeys or running inns in foreign countries. Kind of funny that they set up all that when those characters will immediately run back to Tuskuru when they find out

.

I'll give it a 6.5/10. Mostly thanks to making me feel way better about the original series ending. Everything worked out great

.

Alchemist007 · 2023-02-11, 23:40

Finally got to finishing this.

Yeah it's weird how they left some details out, had to wiki some game-only lore. Didn't much care for the last bad guy plot things.
Pretty neat they brought Hakuoro out from his dimensional man-cave; guess they still wanted the traditional Japanese implied ending for Haku though. It's been a long journey for this anime series from start to finish. Favorite part of this last one was probably the two empresses fighting and Kuon realising Haku was there.

Overall the show's strengths were more in the silly stuff and politics rather than the scifi horror background.

7/10

2022-12-18, 07:06	Link #81
Nachtwandler Yurifag Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine / Barcelona, Spain Age: 35	Considering, how Kuuya ended... She was an odd character, being plot-relevant but not even getting in the Hakuoros harm or family like other girls. Meanwhile, was ep. 26 actually the first time Kuon called herself Hakuoros daughter in the anime and Yuzuha being mentioned as her biological mother or am I forgetting something? __________________ F/GO: 828 004 124 My Anime list My VN list

2022-12-19, 04:18	Link #85
SidVicious Anime addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: São Paulo/Brazil Age: 46	Looks like episodes 27 and 28 will be airing together. https://twitter.com/UtawareAnime/sta...51434060210176 __________________ MyAnimeList AniList

2022-12-19, 04:26	Link #86
Nachtwandler Yurifag Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine / Barcelona, Spain Age: 35	Yes, it was known for a few weeks already. __________________ F/GO: 828 004 124 My Anime list My VN list

2022-12-19, 19:23	Link #87
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	I'll give them this. Was about to criticize the ending for being way too weak the way it was going. So hey, Kuon's power going berserk should at least create something interesting out of it. Honestly I just always presumed she was Yuzuha's daughter. Although maybe I read a spoiler on that at some point and got the knowledge from there. Regardless it makes sense with the rest of the original harem basically being pseudo mothers for Kuon. Guess we'll see how this wraps up. But I'm sure it'll still just end in tragedy anyways. So just kind of dragging it out in that sense . __________________ Anime-Evo

2022-12-20, 03:00	Link #88
Nachtwandler Yurifag Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine / Barcelona, Spain Age: 35	Let's say it will end happily for some characters, but, obviously, not for Haku. __________________ F/GO: 828 004 124 My Anime list My VN list

2022-12-20, 08:12	Link #89
magnuskn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hamburg, Germany Age: 48	It's not like anybody really cares about the characters other than Kuon and Haku (and the legacy characters from the first series), since their characterization is so paper thin with the vast majority of them that they seem like elevated background characters. Which got even more apparent in the last episodes, when they were made out to be totally incompetent against the new threats, after they failed three teenagers with little combat experience from getting to Haku. __________________

2022-12-24, 16:29	Link #92
Nachtwandler Yurifag Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine / Barcelona, Spain Age: 35	A bit of a pity for Kuon. Now it's her time to chase for the god. At least Spoiler: Hakuoro got his happy ending after all this years . Also, I was happy they re-did the graveyard scene from S1 final. Overall, I probably liked this season almost as much as the first one. To bad second anime was pretty bad as an adaptation. __________________ F/GO: 828 004 124 My Anime list My VN list

2022-12-25, 15:08	Link #94
magnuskn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hamburg, Germany Age: 48	Well, they got me to catch an emotion in the last ten minutes of the last episode, so good for them. Still, it had to be bittersweet in some way, so Kuon probably will forever search for Haku. Good for Hakuoro, though. I hope he likes paperwork. 6,5/10 in total for this and the last season, since I never really connected with any characters outside of Kuon and maybe Anju and the character work was spotty at best for most of the side characters. __________________

2022-12-26, 02:13	Link #95
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	On the positive side things worked out fantastically for Hakuoro . All the powers that were an utter pain and restraining him got taken and he can just live his life. His life is in great shape now . Got a lovely wife in Eruruu to actually stay with this time and can theoretically do whatever he wants. Though maybe for the best if he returns to rule over Tuskuru. It's been doing ok, but Kuon never stays around long enough to rule over anything and Oboro got saddled with the job for a long time after Hakuoro left. I feel like everyone would be pretty happy to have him back in charge honestly. The franchise does love bittersweet endings. But this time I'm fine with it. Mostly because I have surprisingly little emotional attachment to anyone in this sequel's cast. There's some sympathy for all these girls utterly desperate to find Haku that just never will. Maybe they can also get dream sequence visits, but that seems to be the limit. It's kind of fun in a sense that they are all working hard and eager to see him, while he's totally fine hanging out in that boundary space. Taking up Hakuoro's powers and happily staying there for eternity. I respect the girls for their amazing optimism. The guy died, reappeared, and then disappeared again. I guess pattern allows for him to randomly appear again. But they are all really confident about something that seems incredibly unlikely. While I can't say the sequel series (both parts) was anything great, it did resolve the lingering bittersweet ending for the original series. I'm really happy for Hakuoro, Eruruu, and company. It's kind of too bad the other main cast members won't find out Hakuoro is back very quickly since they are all off on journeys or running inns in foreign countries. Kind of funny that they set up all that when those characters will immediately run back to Tuskuru when they find out . I'll give it a 6.5/10. Mostly thanks to making me feel way better about the original series ending. Everything worked out great . __________________ Anime-Evo

2023-02-11, 23:40	Link #96
Alchemist007 Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA	Finally got to finishing this. Yeah it's weird how they left some details out, had to wiki some game-only lore. Didn't much care for the last bad guy plot things. Pretty neat they brought Hakuoro out from his dimensional man-cave; guess they still wanted the traditional Japanese implied ending for Haku though. It's been a long journey for this anime series from start to finish. Favorite part of this last one was probably the two empresses fighting and Kuon realising Haku was there. Overall the show's strengths were more in the silly stuff and politics rather than the scifi horror background. 7/10 __________________ Fanfics Art MyAnimeList Last edited by Alchemist007; 2023-02-12 at 00:01.