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View Poll Results: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The MOVIE 1st - rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 61 | 43.88% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 42 | 30.22% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 8.63% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 17 | 12.23% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.44% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.72% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.72% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 3 | 2.16% | |
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2010-11-28, 16:03 | Link #1941 |
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Everything goes in DVD I guess. I'm personally a big fan of magic, and creative use of it but I also get turned off by the whole Loli business which is why I found the movie (and the series) fun but awkward to watch. What I'm grateful though is my box of teabags which I read during the transformation scenes!
Really like Fate's character (but not the crap costume) which may also be why I kinda liked the movie. To be honest, I don't know where I'd be without Mizuki Nana's music which I got introduced through Nanoha. That energy is always useful when cranking out R/L work under pressure but I digress!
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2010-11-28, 16:17 | Link #1942 | |||
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And Nanoha was able to get through to Fate, because of her own experiences with Arisa and her family. She was able to recognize the loneliness from her family experiences (dealing with Shiro's injury), and in an emotionally-fueled rush, applied that to Arisa. In some respects, the movie manga covered these things better. In all honesty, the movie manga should have been an accompaniment to the movie, instead of telling a slightly different story. Quote:
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2010-11-28, 16:27 | Link #1943 | |
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2010-11-28, 16:30 | Link #1944 | |
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@Kaijo: You have to consider what was cut. Fate started being a little more expressive later into the series, and the movie got up to that part real quick, since a lot of the earlier episodes were cut or reduced. Personality was still a bit different, but I think it was to compliment the movie, as compared to the series. I do like my expressionless Fate... @Arkeus: I'm pretty sure Nanoha's henshin was longer in the movie than in the anime. There were just less of them in the movie. Nipples are there but they're so small it wouldn't be hard to miss.
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2010-11-28, 16:42 | Link #1946 | |||
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Again, I don't have a problem with nudity when the plot calls for it, but I do feel the S1 anime handled the transformation better. It just makes me feel more awkward about showing the movie to a new person, which I suppose is a good thing, since a new person should see S1 first. Quote:
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So yeah, the cuts do a play a role in screwing with Fate's emotions. The payoff in the S1 bridge scene was more powerful to me, than the payoff bridge scene in the movie because of it. |
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2010-11-28, 16:52 | Link #1947 | |
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2010-11-29, 01:04 | Link #1949 |
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Well now THAT was an impressive adaptation. That's how you compress an original extended work and/or series into a movie. Toei and DEEN should take some notes.
The Good 1. Fate - The emphasis on Fate's past, Alicia's past and their relationships with Precia gives us a better and deeper understanding of the dynamics between the three, pre- and post-psychotic break on the part of Precia. It actually gives a more human background to Precia and her motivations, as well as the experiences Fate has had to live with given her circumstances. It makes Nanoha's attempts to reach her and the distance Fate shows much more believable than a simple "Defeat means friendship" approach that Nanoha likes to do. I could say in fact that it feels like Fate was the main character in this movie and not Nanoha. 2. Animation - Beam spamming madness with close quarter combat. While the art style and quality is more or less the same, the animation and choreography itself are a dozen notches above the series. The fights are intense, the beams feel really powerful and hell there's even blood! Yes that was one ginormous Starlight Breaker. If this is what they can do here, imagine the intensity of the fights in the A's movie. 3. Torture - Might be a minor quibble to some, but I am really thankful they toned down the physical abuse we have to see that Precia dishes out to Fate. The Bad 1. Nanoha - They cut out a LOT from Nanoha's back story and over all characterization. Perhaps the director felt that the original series dwelt too much on her and not on Fate, so their expositions get reversed for the movie. From that POV, yes a lot of Nanoha's personality and motivations are noticeably absent here, but if you combine it with the series it manages to make a fully fleshed out narrative in the end. I might make a full review later if I have the time.
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2010-11-29, 07:43 | Link #1951 |
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Precia seems to lay the smackdown out on Fate just as hard in the movie...But when they have that closeup of Fate after the beating, she doesn't have gaping wounds from the whipping like in the series. Wonder why they changed that considering it's DVD, it's not like thats not what would happen if constantly hit by a whip...
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2010-11-29, 08:08 | Link #1953 |
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I'd actually recommend the movie over the series to newcomers, as we avoid all the bath-houses / giant tree monsters / unimportant family moments, and get straight to the business of befriending.
By the way, is anyone subbing the commentary? 'Cause I'd love to hear it.
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2010-11-29, 08:11 | Link #1954 |
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Recommend movie to those not familiar with the genre / skeptical about it. Series to everyone else.
Not sure if the movie has more impact before or after watching first season. It is just a remake, but I still think the series provides enough additional content to make you appreciate the characters from the movie more. And it does help to know the first season before jumping onto A's.
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2010-11-29, 12:21 | Link #1956 | |
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The series I felt was a bit more moving, primarily because of the way Arf saw Fate trying to walk after, mumbling about how she needed to help her mother. It made the impact of what just happened so much more powerful. Of course, there is my whole quibble with Precia in the movie, too. The unrealistic "I suddenly remembered Alicia wanted a sister at the end!" thing. I liked her better in the series, because she wasn't crazy, so much as driven to get Alicia back at all costs. Thus, in the series, her whipping of Fate made more sense, because Fate could only ever be a tool there. In the movie, Fate could have been a sister, which means the whipping made less sense. Edit: And I'd recommend the series to everyone new. The movie is only for those that have watched S1 at least. The series answers more questions, and explains things better, and does it in a manner that's not rushed (it may be a bit slow, but that's better than rushed). Once you have knowledge of S1, you can watch the movie to see the more Fate side of things, and marvel at eye candy. |
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2010-11-29, 13:46 | Link #1957 | |
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I thought Fate's henshin was much more shocking than Nanoha's >_> If you look at it from a super robot show's standpoint, you can really see the similarities (a super robot show's combination scene and Nanoha's transformation.) I liked the robot-like device voices better than the movie device voices = \ |
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2010-11-29, 14:08 | Link #1958 |
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Have to agree about the device voices; RH in particular was much too talkative. I actually liked the more robotic tone it used in the series at the start, and then gradually softened up as it worked with Nanoha. It showcased a kind of character development for RH. They tried to capture some of this with RH calling Nanoha "Master" in the movie, but the series gradual changes felt more natural to me.
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2010-11-29, 14:30 | Link #1959 | ||
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Nanoha shows nipples, a close-up of her butt, and they zoom in on her far longer than Fate... Fate doesn't have the nipples, her henshin is half as long, and when they do finally show Fate's butt (as nicely shaped as it is...) she's already wearing the bottom half of her BJ. Fate's henshin obviously had less reason to happen, and it was probably to appease the Fate fans...but it's not really any more explicit than her a's henshin. Quote:
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2010-11-29, 17:00 | Link #1960 | |
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