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Akiyoshi · 2012-02-11, 15:39

^ I agree with you on the bad air jousting in StrikerS but there's also some good air battles like Nanoha VS. the forwards on early chapters or she and Fate VS. 20+ Gadget Drones.

In respect of the MOVIE 2nd i remember how awesome dogfights were in MOVIE 1st so in that regard i think we will see some cool maneuvers here. It's not a good idea to search for physical accuaracy in Nanoha A's, it was the most emotionally-driven of the seasons where battles are mostly determined by guts rather than skill.

Zafira VS. Arf is a good fight despite the fact they're flying and showed good deal of cool-looking stuff(like Zafira's massive kick on Arf's shoulder that sent her flying). It bring me memories of the good old times i spent watching Dragon Ball Z xD

Sunder the Gold · 2012-02-11, 19:04

I was talking about the ZvA exchange in that commercial, not the TV show.

Nah, it's Subaru and Ginga that got up to ridiculous fist-jousting, in StrikerS. At least during their training battle.

Keroko · 2012-02-11, 19:31

Subaru and Ginga have the excuse that their hand-mounted devices are both their offense and defense though.

Granted, not much of an excuse if you start analyzing, but it's still better than someone wielding a farming tool keeping up with someone wielding a sword.

Demi. · 2012-02-11, 22:01

Let's think less farming tool, and more reaping tool. Aye.

Archon_Wing · 2012-02-11, 22:03

Hey, it could be used to kill after gathering wheat. XD

Akiyoshi · 2012-02-12, 02:27

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Originally Posted by Demi.

Let's think less farming tool, and more reaping tool. Aye.

Rule of Cool makes Scythes sufficiently good enough to be kickass weapons xD

But seriously talking, they're really good for show, the curve design and swift and elegant moves that schyte wielders usually do in anime and games are usually pretty spectacular(Maka & Soul from Soul Eater are a good example).

Bardiche was really cool in MOVIE 1st save for the new voice(it's not particularly bad but i think the original one sounds cooler) and seeing her fighting Signum on a high-budget movie will be candy to my eyes xD

On the other hand, Signum, despite being a sword-wielder, is kind of a showy fighter herself. Specially when she uses Laevatein's Schlagenform and performs her snake dance with a bladed whip xD

Keroko · 2012-02-12, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Demi.

Let's think less farming tool, and more reaping tool. Aye.

Still farming tool. Reaper harvests souls.

But what I meant to say was that even though we have seen sillier things, it still manages to look cool enough for the little voice in the back of my head to be shushed when flashy things happen.

Sunder the Gold · 2012-02-12, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Keroko

Subaru and Ginga have the excuse that their hand-mounted devices are both their offense and defense though.

Not really.

Ginga in particular, if faced with Subaru charging her down like that, should try moving more slowly so that she can manuever better and dodge around her, while using Revolver Shoot and any other ranged attacks to strike at Subaru before they get close.

Even if Subaru dodges or blocks, that distracts her from her forward charge, which gives Ginga more an opening to exploit.

Swordsman didn't fight by attacking each others' swords; they targeted their foes' bodies.

Fist-fighters don't aim for fists, they aim for faces and stomaches and joints.

But this is getting WAY off-topic, so I'll stop here.

Keroko · 2012-02-12, 15:17

*rolls eyes* Yeah, like I said, not much of an excuse if you start analyzing.

Craxuan · 2012-02-12, 23:42

I've read an article on fistfighting (not really, more on the reality of fighting and how it will never be as cool as you hope/think/wish), and unless you're a professional fighter with gloves (May not be enough) the worst place you could hit is the face (Despite the psychological advantage). Your finger bones will probably break first before doing any substantial damage.

And, suppose that the enemy could see (Again, only professionals could hide their body languages, but most of the time not enough) where your attacks are going. In that case the best thing to do is to hit the arm that's trying to block you instead of trying to get a fist into someone's stomach/face since it is the most obvious of targets.

In a real fight I'll be using every limb possible to defeat the enemy so I don't think categorizing a close combat fighter as just using 'fists' is correct...

Sunder the Gold · 2012-02-13, 01:55

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Originally Posted by Craxuan

Your finger bones will probably break first before doing any substantial damage.

I was assuming protection for the hands, since we were talking about Subaru. But then, she only has the one gauntlet.

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In a real fight I'll be using every limb possible to defeat the enemy so I don't think categorizing a close combat fighter as just using 'fists' is correct...

It's no less incorrect than refering to Subaru and Vivio as martial artists with the idea that this distinguishes them from warriors like Signum and Vita. Not that I'm saying you did that.

There are multiple, real-world schools of sword-based combat styles, and at least one discipline involving archery (Kyu-jutsu or Kyu-do; Zen Archery?). Those who fight completely unarmed do not have greater claim to the label of "martial artist" than expert swordsmen.

But then, calling Signum a swordswoman also doesn't accurately convey the facts that she is also a mage and an archer, among her other skills.

Language is rather limited.

Crono_Cross · 2012-02-13, 02:47

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Originally Posted by Demi.

Let's think less farming tool, and more reaping tool. Aye.

Yeah..Scythes are pretty much more effective to 'Reap' people lol. hence why the Grim Reaper uses it(although i think i saw an image the other day with the grim reaper using a sword..)

Anyway, I did see the MOVIE 1st, if the MOVIE 2nd is even better, then the fights will be better. hehehe....more explosions...

Signum vs Fate again...*Eyes sparkle and starts to drool* oh..that was weird lol.

green-link94 · 2012-02-19, 18:04

Another short trailer this time with Shamal.

Akiyoshi · 2012-02-20, 05:22

^ Thanks for the trailer xD! There was already trialers for Vita, Zafira and Shamal hope next will be Signum's turn xD!

Kaijo · 2012-02-20, 09:07

These trailers really don't have much, do they? Merely repeating some of the scenes we saw in the first one.

Archon_Wing · 2012-02-20, 09:28

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Originally Posted by Kaijo

These trailers really don't have much, do they? Merely repeating some of the scenes we saw in the first one.

Yea seriously. They can barely be considered actual proper trailers, more like just brief teaser clips. :S

Mow Yun · 2012-02-22, 22:34

I don't remember Shamal using Klar Wind's strings in A's other than to make portals, it seems that they might have increased her role directly.

Akiyoshi · 2012-02-22, 22:42

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Originally Posted by Mow Yun

I don't remember Shamal using Klar Wind's strings in A's other than to make portals, it seems that they might have increased her role directly.

Probably a good consequence of the abscense of the Lieze Twins. Without a Misterious Protector aiding them in battles the Wolkenritter will need to do everything by themselves.

Mow Yun · 2012-02-23, 21:01

To be fair, by cutting down on characters I think they would be able to devote more of the limited screen time to the main characters, so I think it (removal of the Lieze twins) might have been a consequence of the movie format.

bhl88 · 2012-02-24, 03:21

Or the Book of Darkness would eat on the Wolkenritter (and Vita would try smashing the book before being devoured XD) and then Hayate would turn to Reinforce or something....

2012-02-11, 15:39	Link #481
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	^ I agree with you on the bad air jousting in StrikerS but there's also some good air battles like Nanoha VS. the forwards on early chapters or she and Fate VS. 20+ Gadget Drones. In respect of the MOVIE 2nd i remember how awesome dogfights were in MOVIE 1st so in that regard i think we will see some cool maneuvers here. It's not a good idea to search for physical accuaracy in Nanoha A's, it was the most emotionally-driven of the seasons where battles are mostly determined by guts rather than skill. Zafira VS. Arf is a good fight despite the fact they're flying and showed good deal of cool-looking stuff(like Zafira's massive kick on Arf's shoulder that sent her flying). It bring me memories of the good old times i spent watching Dragon Ball Z xD __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2012-02-11, 22:01	Link #484
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2012-02-12, 23:42	Link #490
Craxuan Crax Author Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: MY	I've read an article on fistfighting (not really, more on the reality of fighting and how it will never be as cool as you hope/think/wish), and unless you're a professional fighter with gloves (May not be enough) the worst place you could hit is the face (Despite the psychological advantage). Your finger bones will probably break first before doing any substantial damage. And, suppose that the enemy could see (Again, only professionals could hide their body languages, but most of the time not enough) where your attacks are going. In that case the best thing to do is to hit the arm that's trying to block you instead of trying to get a fist into someone's stomach/face since it is the most obvious of targets. In a real fight I'll be using every limb possible to defeat the enemy so I don't think categorizing a close combat fighter as just using 'fists' is correct... __________________

2012-02-19, 18:04	Link #493
green-link94 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: mid-childa	Another short trailer this time with Shamal. <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/Z2Y_Ah96TWo">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> __________________ The Nanoha series magic dictionary translation project.

2012-02-20, 05:22	Link #494
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	^ Thanks for the trailer xD! There was already trialers for Vita, Zafira and Shamal hope next will be Signum's turn xD! __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2012-02-11, 19:04	Link #482
Sunder the Gold Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	I was talking about the ZvA exchange in that commercial, not the TV show. Nah, it's Subaru and Ginga that got up to ridiculous fist-jousting, in StrikerS. At least during their training battle.

2012-02-11, 19:31	Link #483
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Subaru and Ginga have the excuse that their hand-mounted devices are both their offense and defense though. Granted, not much of an excuse if you start analyzing, but it's still better than someone wielding a farming tool keeping up with someone wielding a sword.

2012-02-12, 15:17	Link #489
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	rolls eyes Yeah, like I said, not much of an excuse if you start analyzing.

2012-02-20, 09:07	Link #495
Kaijo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.	These trailers really don't have much, do they? Merely repeating some of the scenes we saw in the first one.

2012-02-22, 22:34	Link #497
Mow Yun Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 34	I don't remember Shamal using Klar Wind's strings in A's other than to make portals, it seems that they might have increased her role directly.

2012-02-23, 21:01	Link #499
Mow Yun Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 34	To be fair, by cutting down on characters I think they would be able to devote more of the limited screen time to the main characters, so I think it (removal of the Lieze twins) might have been a consequence of the movie format.

2012-02-24, 03:21	Link #500
bhl88 Otaku Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Unseen Horizon	Or the Book of Darkness would eat on the Wolkenritter (and Vita would try smashing the book before being devoured XD) and then Hayate would turn to Reinforce or something.... __________________ OS-tan Collections (temporary): https://discord.gg/Hv2rBs3