Character Discussion - Kallen

[morbosfist]

She's not going to say it to Gino. It's too personal a word when there's nothing between them.

[dec4rhapsody]

Originally Posted by X_Danny_X

sounds to me that Kallen's gum line is going to be said to Gino when Suzaku is going to land a killing blow to Kallen but Gino steps in and takes the hit.

so i bet some possible romance was there that wasnt shown if it is played out like that.

Possible. Though I would consider her jumping to conclusions (Aishiteru is such a freakin' word) is rather offensive to Gino.

[Baixinho]

Originally Posted by X_Danny_X

sounds to me that Kallen's gum line is going to be said to Gino when Suzaku is going to land a killing blow to Kallen but Gino steps in and takes the hit.

so i bet some possible romance was there that wasnt shown if it is played out like that.

If she uses aishiteru for Gino's feelings, I will laugh really hard at that show

Not that I'm very far away from laughing right now though

[Eliarine]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

She's not going to say it to Gino. It's too personal a word when there's nothing between them.

But couldn't she use it on purpose, to point how how crazy that would be? It's "something like "aishiteru"", after all. I don"t know, like, "what the heck did you do that for? And don't give me no stupid ass reason!"

...just speculating xD

[incorrupts]

Originally Posted by X_Danny_X

sounds to me that Kallen's gum line is going to be said to Gino when Suzaku is going to land a killing blow to Kallen but Gino steps in and takes the hit.

so i bet some possible romance was there that wasnt shown if it is played out like that.

Oh God, if a scenario like this plays out, i'm gonna stab my eyes out. Srsly.

But there is not enough interaction between GinoxKallen for the word "aishiteru" to be used, so yeah. Like 0000,1 % probability.

[dec4rhapsody]

Other scenarios to use the gumline:

1) towards one's nation.

2) turning down some jerks, but only if the term is already brought up
Example:
Gino: Kallen, Aishite...(I lo-)
Kallen: *gumline*

Lelouch: Kallen, admit it, you love me, nyah nyah.
Kallen: What?
Lelouch: Say "Aishiteru Lelouch"
Kallen: *gumline*+7 COMBO punch

[Lunara]

Originally Posted by skyless

Oh God, if a scenario like this plays out, i'm gonna stab my eyes out. Srsly.

But there is not enough interaction between GinoxKallen for the word "aishiteru" to be used, so yeah. Like 0000,1 % probability.

I agree. Obviously Kallen can't get over Lelouch that easily, right now her feelings are being put aside but there still there. And if the gumline is dircted toward Gino then I will also join you in eye stabbing. So I'm about 99.99% sure that the gumline will be directed towards Lelouch. The 00.01% is coming from the unexpected twists and turns.

[yvj]

Originally Posted by skyless

Oh God, if a scenario like this plays out, i'm gonna stab my eyes out. Srsly.

But there is not enough interaction between GinoxKallen for the word "aishiteru" to be used, so yeah. Like 0000,1 % probability.

1) When did Gino have time to fall in love with Kallen and recognize his feelings? During the war? When his ideals where being questioned and he was facing the biggest descions in his life?

2) Kallen realizes Gino's in love with her and questions him about it?

That = http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Asspull

[incorrupts]

Originally Posted by yvj

1) When did Gino have time to fall in love with Kallen and recognize his feelings? During the war? When his ideals where being questioned and he was facing the biggest descions in his life?

2) Kallen realizes Gino's in love with her and questions him about it?

That = http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Asspull

Haha, that would explain it. XD

[morbosfist]

yvj's post covered any response I could have made rather well. If she says it to Gino or in any way referencing a specific country, it would be quite the asspull.

[youngde]

Originally Posted by X_Danny_X

sounds to me that Kallen's gum line is going to be said to Gino when Suzaku is going to land a killing blow to Kallen but Gino steps in and takes the hit.

so i bet some possible romance was there that wasnt shown if it is played out like that.

I can grant that maybe if there were a time jump of a couple years at the end of the series to give Kallen time to get over Lelouch AND Lelouch had chosen C.C. and gone to where Kallen could not reach him that she might eventually love Gino (it would be a major facepalm to stick at the end of the series, but at least I could buy it). But for Gino/Kallen to fall in love in the next episode. Just don't see it happening.

[Narona]

Originally Posted by dec4rhapsody

Possible. Though I would consider her jumping to conclusions (Aishiteru is such a freakin' word) is rather offensive to Gino.

I still don't really understand in which context the word "aishiteru" can be used... so sorry if my question seems stupid.

IIRC what some people said, it's used between married people or at least official couple (Am I wrong?)

But lelouch is still not her boyfriend so, if she says that to him, is it not also offensive towards lelouch?

[linkinstreet]

Originally Posted by Narona

I still don't really understand in which context the word "aishiteru" can be used... so sorry if my question seems stupid.

IIRC what some people said, it's used between married people or at least official couple (Am I wrong?)

But lelouch is still not her boyfriend so, if she says that to him, is it not also offensive towards lelouch?

No, even couple uses "suki". Aishiteru is when you really love and care about someone
And I just don't see Kallen and Gino hook up. For one he only has Suzaku in his eyes, and another it's just something that anti Kalulu's made up to fight the holy empire!

[Revolutionist]

You guys are not going to be satisfied unless she and lelouch have sex inside Damocles...

sigh. At best all you can hope for is some resolution to her issues, but at this point that's even highly unlikely. I don't know if the writers have butchered her character for the sake of having an Albion vs Seiten fight at the end but Kallen's gone from a likable character to just a rage driven killing machine. From my point of view the whole time she spent getting to know Lelouch via Nunnaly could've been used to develop more on her dead brother, and what his motivations for being a terrorist were, how he died, etc. I mean, that only makes sense if you're gonna have Kallen act this stupid and just blindly charge at Lelouch at any chance she gets. They might as well not have shown that "development" if we can call it that. Instead they should've focused on some background development like they did with Charles and V.V. Hell, even a scene of Naoto getting executed on TV by Clovis or something like would have sufficed.

[youngde]

Originally Posted by Revolutionist

You guys are not going to be satisfied unless she and lelouch have sex inside Damocles...

sigh. At best all you can hope for is some resolution to her issues, but at this point that's even highly unlikely. I don't know if the writers have butchered her character for the sake of having an Albion vs Seiten fight at the end but Kallen's gone from a likable character to just a rage driven killing machine. From my point of view the whole time she spent getting to know Lelouch via Nunnaly could've been used to develop more on her dead brother, and what his motivations for being a terrorist were, how he died, etc. I mean, that only makes sense if you're gonna have Kallen act this stupid and just blindly charge at Lelouch at any chance she gets. They might as well not have shown that "development" if we can call it that. Instead they should've focused on some background development like they did with Charles and V.V. Hell, even a scene of Naoto getting executed on TV by Clovis or something like would have sufficed.

It is precisely that they have focused most of her character development this season on her relationship with Lelouch that it is likely that we will see a resolution of her issues in the final episode. Otherwise, yes, it makes no sense that they wouldn't have developed other aspects of her character such as her relationship with her brother/father. The only reason her brother was even brought up in her talks with Nunnally was for her to make another connection to Lelouch.

She got very close to getting to know the real Lelouch before he told her that she was nothing but his pawn from the day he met her. He told her to 'live on' after that, expecting to die, but was then rescued (but Kallen couldn't have known that wasn't planned). He returns a month later as Emperor, and again distances himself from Kallen, this time probably intending to make her hate him forever so it would be easier for her to move on. However, it has been confirmed by the director that she loves him when she kisses him. The fact that she's trying to kill him shows that she believes that the Lelouch she loved never existed; the tears show that she still can't shake off her feelings, but can't afford to hesitate. Kallen's feelings are coming to a head at the series climax, so they will factor into it somehow.

We'll just have to wait and see (and see in what context the gum line is used).

[X_Danny_X]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

She's not going to say it to Gino. It's too personal a word when there's nothing between them.

word? Gino is the player and funny go looking type of guy. he probably was flirting with Kallen. Kallen will probably ask why and then give her gum line since there was no real good reason for him to take the hit.

Gino is there and i dont believe he just wasnt allow to be there for no reason. he is going to do something.

besides, she already kissed lelouch, actions speaks louder than words and right now her goal is just like anybody else and that is to stop Lelouch. i dont believe that she has a valid reason for her to meet with him again for something important.

[yvj]

Originally Posted by X_Danny_X

word? Gino is the player and funny go looking type of guy. he probably was flirting with Kallen. Kallen will probably ask why and then give her gum line since there was no real good reason for him to take the hit.

Gino is there and i dont believe he just wasnt allow to be there for no reason. he is going to do something.

besides, she already kissed lelouch, actions speaks louder than words and right now her goal is just like anybody else and that is to stop him. i dont believe that she has a valid reason for her to meet with him again for something important.

Gino was there to help Kallen get in.

You know what I don't believe. That they would allow Kallen to NEVER understand Lelouch when that was her goal through the whole season.

Gino is not going to suddenly be a player when his Tristan is smacked up and his best friend has from his perception joined the dark side.

Gino has more important things to think about. Kallen either for love or for taking his life has only been thinking about Lelouch even after the kiss.

And its ridiculous to think that Gino would save Kallen from Suzaku somehow and she would just start chatting to him about "why do you love me?"

Why would she care what Gino thinks? When she wants answers from Lelouch

[Tokkan]

"Aishiteru" is too strong a word for Kallen to say to Gino, whom she barely knows at all.

[Spectacular_Insanity]

I'll just say this: If there is a Kallen X Gino pairing at the end of this, I just might have to kill myself. I personally would rather see her single than with some mediocre secondary character.

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by X_Danny_X

word? Gino is the player and funny go looking type of guy. he probably was flirting with Kallen. Kallen will probably ask why and then give her gum line since there was no real good reason for him to take the hit.

Gino is there and i dont believe he just wasnt allow to be there for no reason. he is going to do something.

besides, she already kissed lelouch, actions speaks louder than words and right now her goal is just like anybody else and that is to stop him. i dont believe that she has a valid reason for her to meet with him again for something important.

yes, word, and the word used is not flirting. He'd say "suki" if anything. Kallen would never jump to that conclusion, especially about someone she has zero interest in. Gino has served his purpose by getting Kallen inside the shield. He's not going to interfere in the battle when he only has half a Knightmare left. Pairing her with Gino is just a way to her away from Lelouch.

Kallen's goal may be to stop him, but that doesn't mean everything about them has been resolved. Lelouch has yet to answer her questions, so that still needs to be resolved.