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It is because of Alice's personality that she pretty much almost fell into Magane's trap twice, but Mamika and Celestia both intervered at both times when Magane was trying to use her powers on Alice.
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2017-05-13, 20:40 | Link #903 | |
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This episode was fun. I like Megane a lot, but I don't like the way the show is presenting her power. Her magic seems to work based on the very simple principle that if one claims that a lie is not true, than one is saying the truth in a way. And if one accepts a lie as truth but lies about it then one is also saying the truth in a way. Actually, forget this, thinking about it more, I've realised I'm not sure how her power works. Anyway! Megane basically says before activating her powers that a lie about a lie is the truth. (Not exactly that, but that's the point.) That's cool, however, a lie requires intention thus the knowledge of the truth, or something believed as the truth. If one doesn't have the intention to lie, but still not providing the correct information then one is just simply wrong, So her opponents aren't exactly lying to her. Not to mention that it's debateble if Megane herself is actually lying or not as she kinda expects her "lie" to become truth.
Basically my problem is that Megane's chant thingie doesn't properly describe what's actually happening. Which is funny considering her power involves playing with language. Although she maybe says it that way bacause it sounds shorter and way cooler than a proper descripiton. Megane's power can be formidable even if they stop talking to her, as she might be able to summon monsters or even granting herself powers in advance with it. By the way, Altair kinda said in the first episode that her plan needs a lot of fighters to clash, right? I wonder why is Blitz trying to kill Meteora so soon? Quote:
I think she can also restore things, She said in the first episode that her power has something to do with the power of reincarnation and as such she can turn life to dust, and dust to life or something like that. Last edited by Albel VII; 2017-05-13 at 22:40. Reason: added more information, crossing unsure stuff |
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2017-05-13, 20:51 | Link #904 |
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If that magical girl stays true to herself, that crazy girl who turns lies into reality will stand no chance against her... IMO.
After so many episodes, it's nice to have some action once again! It's also nice to have our first "confirmed" death. Even if it's a random person, it "proves" that they are willing to kill people, which is good to keep the tension around. |
2017-05-13, 21:45 | Link #905 | |
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We'll still need more background on his story though. |
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2017-05-13, 23:00 | Link #906 |
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The similarity between Alice and Saber is so apparent.
Great episode. I love the new girl. Character interactions are on point. The fact that the government sending agents to follow our characters is just icing on the cake. |
2017-05-13, 23:14 | Link #907 |
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Funny that Meteora tries to call for permission to use a more powerful skill in the middle of the battle, but guess she's taking the terms of their agreement with the government very seriously. Poor Selesia, being thrown around so much, but they're probably setting it up so that Selesia will get the first new Creator power-up (maybe rush an OVA episode with her getting new powers or something). Even if she could get her mech back, everyone would probably prefer she not use it (collateral damage and all), which is probably also why they're just keeping Rui under observation. Wonder if Mamika would be his type.
I'm curious if Mamika will permanently change sides here or if its just temporary. Before she was just naive, but sometimes things are just that simple- she can't simply stand by while someone is killed, even if that person is technically their enemy. Alice and Blitz will do whatever is necessary to change their worlds. Blitz seems somewhat aware of the potential consequences while Alice is just desperate, which makes her the perfect pawn for the MUP, a blunt instrument. That new Creation is scary. If Yuya could be called chaotic neutral, she's chaotic evil. (No idea if I'm using those alignment terms properly, I'm just guessing.) They need to read up on her abilities fast. And I hope Sota doesn't sit on that secret too long. MUP did recognize him so there's something there. Nice to see almost all the major characters in one place fighting, now to see how the fight ends. They've tried negotiations but that failed, maybe if/when reality starts falling apart Alice will be more willing to listen. |
2017-05-13, 23:20 | Link #908 | |
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However, I expect shit will hit the fan in the second part of the show. Some main characters will die, sooner or later. |
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2017-05-13, 23:21 | Link #909 | |
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2017-05-13, 23:46 | Link #910 | |
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2017-05-14, 00:00 | Link #911 |
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Jesus, while I could handle it in the last 2 episodes because of the context, but the dialogue this week was horribly long winded even for this show! Circular sophomoric arguments about "Justice" is last thing I wanted to hear about, at least not 15 minutes of it. The last 5 minutes should have happened a lot eariler, as it was definitely the best part of this episode. Aside from the over the top Fem!Orochimaru antics anyway.
I next week is not nearly as slow. |
2017-05-14, 01:05 | Link #912 |
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Hopefully in the aftermath the government create measures to ensure their agents safety as well as rules of engagement.
Smart phones are nice but they needed hands free communication so ear receivers are needed to be constantly in touch with agents. Also what are the rules of engagement in containing villains and those on MUP's side. I believe besides the present Creators and Sota the government needs to form a taskforce of knowledgeable Otaku experts like that dude over at the Ministry of Agriculture who wrote about Gundam in wikipedia as consultants. So that agents won't go in blind like what happened here. Last edited by ReddyRedWolf; 2017-05-14 at 01:17. |
2017-05-14, 01:05 | Link #913 |
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Except that said circular sophomoric statements aren't just put out as filler dialogue here: it's used to great effect to establish both Magane's pragmatism, as well as reinforcing the issue of Aliceteria's stubbornness, further solidifying their characters. It's not even a hard-to-follow conversation, thus it doesn't get too needlessly wordy.
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2017-05-14, 02:03 | Link #914 |
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IIRC it's not exactly a skill, but a machine/gattling gun that Meteora "borrowed" from the JSDF which she keeps for emergency situation (she hasn't used it before but its amongst the weapons that Kikuchihara listed). Since it's still a property of JSDF, she honored her word to Kikuchihara to ask permision first before using it. I swear the whole thing is a riff of Shin Godzilla scene where the pilot of Japan's Cobra-Copter squad still needed to ask permission to SecDef & Prime Minister to shoot his machine guns & missiles to Godzilla who was standing right in front of him . But the twist here is that Meteora's communication with the authority got cut off as she was blown by the enemy. Sometimes, bureaucracy can kill you, literally .
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2017-05-14, 02:10 | Link #915 | |
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Somehow I think he may have something to do with girl killing herself. He's just too freaked out about it. |
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2017-05-14, 02:44 | Link #916 | |
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2017-05-14, 03:04 | Link #917 | |
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2017-05-14, 03:14 | Link #918 |
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That's because Magane kept talking and baiting Alice to engage in roundabout arguments. I mean, watch the episode again. Alice was as annoyed with the back-and-forth with Magane as much as you .
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2017-05-14, 03:45 | Link #919 | |
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She fights with words, the topic didn't matter. Magane was simply guiding the conversation in such a way that it would lead to a fight, that way she can create a condition where her ability can be used. I assume her weakness are surprise attacks and opponents that don't talk back/answer... ...kind of like Hero Academia's Hitoshi Shinso
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I just hope next week is better because of now this was the weakest episode so far. |
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