2004-09-15, 18:02 | Link #41 |
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l l l l l l l l l l I've been meaning to ask that for a while.. Isn't it pretty much safe to say that Sasuke and Itachi's father was a master of the sharingan? I mean, none of us know if he had the mangekyou sharingan or anything.. but it seemed that out of all the ninja of the village.. at least his dad would put some scratches on him or something.. Itachi didn't look worn down at all.. almost as if he wasn't hurt, or had little resistence put up against him.. maybe his dad was like Sarutobi and couldn't hurt his son (or pupil in Saru's case?) Or maybe Itachi was just incredibly strong and none of the ninja could touch him.. |
2004-09-15, 19:18 | Link #43 | |
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B) Thats possible, except not proven. If with 2 eyes you can see 1mile away, with 1 eye you could probably still see 1mile away. If I recall correctly, Itachi had faster jutsu speed as stated by kakashi and the tsuk. By reading I was talking about how it was shown on manga, it sort of predicts when the opponent is going to go next. I believe the funtions are set with each lvl rather than improved. For example if with 1 dot you can predict 1 move ahead, with 2 dots 2 moves, with 3 dots 3moves. |
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Gai is strong but he's not legendary, the way Gai made the sound nin pass through a wall during the war was impressive. But it's nothing compared to what Tsunade did without even seeming to force herself when she destroyed a street with a mere kick or worse when she swung Gamabunta's sword. Quote:
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Then if Gai isn't extremely crappy in front of a Sannin, he is however far weaker yes. And the point isn't that he's weaker because they're legendary but that he's weaker because they're stupidily strong which is why they became legendary. Quote:
The simple truth is that Gai neither any other characters in the whole show ever showed the kind of physical strength of Tsunade. Oh yeah except some Godzilla-class summon. Tsunade strenght is so insanely high that one blow can end the fight and your life with it, Gai's strong but his kick didn't even phase Kisame. Quote:
Then fast enough to run away from a clone which would explode instead of pouffing? How that? Quote:
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2004-09-16, 09:02 | Link #46 | |
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B) but someone who needs glasses, that have problem both eyes....if you put them only one aumnted Glass, do you think it will see better than the whole glass aummented? also the insigth is far better, Kakshi has a blind spot, you know that when something comes from youre left side you tend to use more the left eye than the Right? Imagine is someone comes from the most left side of Kakshi.....he will have to move his head and try to use the sharingan, but in the ninja word that time lost coul mean death....and Itachi has 20/20 Sharingan Vision. Itachi was suprised by the usagge of Kakshi Sharingan, but never said "Wow Kakshi Sharingan Insigth is the Same as mine!".... and te dot prediction thing...were did you get that? and if we go to taht you can say itachi have 6 dots and Kakshi have 3 dots!...do you remember whern Sasuke got 1 Dot y one Eye and 2 Dot in the other....yo tellng me that because he had 2 in one eye his insigth was equal to the moment he got 2 in both eyes? Lets be serius here, AS for the ussage of Sharingan Kakashi will never be equal in any field With Itachi, nor Sasuke (in a future sense)
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2004-09-16, 22:50 | Link #47 | |
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So you are saying Itachi beat Kakashi easily? Even though he what is probably his strongest jutsu? And also was a bit ... 'messed up' or affect in some way after doing his last move. It wasn't just a breeze. If someone uses their best jutsu then the fight wasn't easy as pie. |
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2004-09-16, 23:07 | Link #49 | |
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2004-09-16, 23:22 | Link #50 |
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Well, the Amaratsu could be more powerful. Also, one doesn't always acquire the most powerful jutsu of one's life at the age of 12 or 13.
Itachi's had 4-5 years since becoming a missing-nin to develop more terrifying jutsus. We've only seen him fight 2 times. From this you think we can conclude what his most powerful jutsu is? |
2004-09-16, 23:31 | Link #51 |
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Itachi has yet more to show of his power.
First Amatseru has not been clearly shown so no conclusion is possible Second Itachi we possibly havent seen him fight at his max. Third Why are we jumping to conclusions of how powerful someone is based on so little facts.
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2004-09-16, 23:43 | Link #52 |
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It is one of the mange sharingan's move. THe mange sharingan is basically the ultimate sharingan. There seems to be an emphasis on 3 in the sharingan. So if anything there may be 1 more move. But I doubt ITachi will obtain it seeing as how Sasuke needs a way to beat him.
The Mange sharingan moves drained him out, we've seen moves that take a lot of his chakra reserve and effects his minds. If there is a stronger move it won't be a uchiha-related move and it would severly hurt him maybe both mentally and pyschically. And you can't say you're just assuming things and we've barely scratched the surface of teh sharingan if you aren't very up to date with the manga. |
2004-09-17, 00:54 | Link #53 |
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Itach is a character driven by power. He's had half a decade since he left to search and find out more. So, let's not judge just yet. To comment on the power required by the Mangekyou and the like--surely either a large amount of chakra is required or it just puts wear and tear on the sharingan. Yes, Itachi ran away from Jiraiya after having used 2 special moves a total of three times, so obviously they require a lot of chakra, but let's not assume they used even 1/3 of Itachi's total chakra. Itachi is just a wise ninja and knows that to take on a ninja of Jiraiya's caliber, you really need most or all of your chakra. He doesn't plan on dying, you see. |
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Gai is more than probably better than Oro in Taijutsu but he would be still crushed in a fight against him. And being trained by the 4th, the greatest hero of Konoha, doesn't seem to be enough to gain a reputation such as the Sannin for Kakashi and his (dead?) comrade. The Sannin are just way stronger than almost anyone in the show. Quote:
The fact is that Itachi wasn't in trouble even once during this fight which barely lasted one minute, that actually Kakashi didn't even find a moment to attack him. And messed up? Don't exagerate, the effort to use the Tsukiyomi make him sweat a little and breath a little more heavily during a few second, nothing else. |
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2004-09-17, 09:48 | Link #57 | |
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Hmm... did Oro's jutsu need effort to use? No. Itachi did, obviously the Tsukiyomi doesn't leave you completely well of. Itachi used at least some effort in it. I remember yous aying something about extreme concetrtion or something like that in some Itachi thread or it may even be this one. But does someoen you beat extremely easy need any concentration? |
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I don't know exactly the difference of physical strength between Gai and Tsunade but as far as we saw, Tsunade showed way more strength than him, that's all. Quote:
And yes I think that the Tsukiyomi is dangerous to use (as it's stated anyways) whatever the amount of chakra it uses. But even that doesn't change how the fight was going, the fact is that Kurenai was losing is less than 10s and that the little intervention of Kakashi which barely lasted a minute ended with him wounded and tired. Actually at the point when Itachi used the Tsukiyomi, he had the complete upper hand, neither Kurenai nor Asuma could open their eyes, Kakashi was the only one able to fight (or so he thought) whereas Itachi had yet to drop a single sweat and had Kisame who could attack them whenever he wanted. Itachi wasn't at all in a tight situation forcing him to use a dangerous jutsu, he calmly praised Kakashi to be able to use the Sharingan to this extent though he wasn't an Uchiha but added that it wasn't the true strength of the Sharingan and showed to him what he meant, crushing him definitively doing so. |
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2004-09-17, 13:28 | Link #59 |
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I'm not sure if the argument here is if Gai is stronger than X, or how strong Gai is. I guess I'll add 2 cents to each.
I don't think that Gai is stronger than Itachi, but then again not much known about Gai. We all know that he has fought Kakashi before, but we're not sure what those fights were about, did they "seriously" fight? Gai can probably open the gates, and we're not sure what opening more than 5 gates gives the user exactly. Yet, with the new chapters of manga we're not know a bit more about the sharingan, so it seems that if Gai only uses hand to hand fighting he might no fare so well against Itachi. I'm not too sure about that, because if Gai switches to the drunken fist style, I'm not sure if the sharingan can catch which way the blow would come. Sharingan does not see the future, I think it predicts movements based on previous "stored" data, like a really good computer. Yet, with a fightning style that changes on demand, I'm not sure if Itachi could predict it, but that's neither here nor there. Overall, Itachi probably has enouth techniques to kill just about anyone. Gai is powerful, but until he officially fights and has to go to his limit, we're not sure how powerful. The whole gate thing is a bit of a mystery, we can speculate but until the 6th, or 7th gate is opened we're not really sure. Yet, since Kakashi got beaten by Itachi, we're pretty sure where he stands on the whole power scale. |
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