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EDIT: Excellent final scene. Beautiful BGM, beautiful voice acting. Tons of strong emotions just spilling out. Definitely the best episode so far.
Spoiler for Sana:
Not only do we get a load of information on Nanaka's past, but Sana's past and his watch is emphasized once again when Nanaka lets it all go with how he was off with his new friends while completely oblivious of the pain she was in. Looks like we'll be back here in a few episodes with the roles reversed for Sana's past =)
WOW!
Anyways, I'll split my thoughts by characters, and lines.
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Nanaka: Damn, that was something. Due to Asami/Sana from last episode, she starts ignoring Sana again. Then she screams and such at Sana, but he still manages to keep her from running away.
Nanaka's past: Again, WOAH! As speculated, it was a fire, and it killed her parents. The violin part was simply that she didn't want to play it again, after she jumped out with her violin and the bracelet.
After being released from the hospital, she became the way she was.
Shuri: Tries to act cheerful, though Shuusuke worries about her.
Shuusuke: Explains everything to Sana; feels helpless that he couldn't do anything for Nanaka
Aoi: Does practically nothing but provide a little bit of humor
Yuzuki: She reveals the reason she gives people caramel; her part in the episode was like the calm before the storm...
Asami: Still a pointless character... -_-
Sana: Tries to understand why Nanaka was ignoring him; while making an excuse, destroys her impression of the festival night; rightfully shouts at Nanaka at that moment; utterly shocked at the "help me" letter; becomes depressed and gets cheered up by Yuzuki; hugs Nanaka
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Major (speculation) points:
The fire seems to be arson, but the criminal wasn't found.
The shock of the fire caused Nanaka to lose some of her memory of the night of the fire, which definitely did not help police.
When Nanaka talked about "friends" of Sana's, the screen zoomed to his watch. Later, he said that he was going to become stronger.
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-So far, there isn't any clue to the criminal that burned down the house. My best guess so far is Nanaka's uncle.
-Poor girl...
-Friends, blood, getting stronger...
My speculations:
1. His friend, who gave him the watch, was killed by someone. Sana was traumatized by the events and shut himself inside his room/or tried to commit suicide. His parents decided for him to move back to see if he could get better.
2. Something happened between him and his friend, and Sana killed his friend. After police and other legal actions and such, he was moved back as a way to recover.
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One other thought:
I can't figure out whether I should side with Nanaka or not. She blames Sana for leaving her alone when she suffered the most, while he was happily enjoying his time with his new friends. But obviously, that's unreasonable because Sana wouldn't know, and after coming back, no one would say anything...
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Stuff left to resolve:
-Crazy old lady
-Wakatsuki family
-Sana
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Romance-wise, it feels like it could only be Nanaka now. Asami is obviously not in the competition, and doesn't seem to have any intention either.
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Preview - ............Yeah, okay... whatever...
-_- Geez, I wrote a lot...
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WOW!
Anyways, I'll split my thoughts by characters, and lines.
----------
Nanaka: Damn, that was something. Due to Asami/Sana from last episode, she starts ignoring Sana again. Then she screams and such at Sana, but he still manages to keep her from running away.
Nanaka's past: Again, WOAH! As speculated, it was a fire, and it killed her parents. The violin part was simply that she didn't want to play it again, after she jumped out with her violin and the bracelet.
After being released from the hospital, she became the way she was.
Shuri: Tries to act cheerful, though Shuusuke worries about her.
Shuusuke: Explains everything to Sana; feels helpless that he couldn't do anything for Nanaka
Aoi: Does practically nothing but provide a little bit of humor
Yuzuki: She reveals the reason she gives people caramel; her part in the episode was like the calm before the storm...
Asami: Still a pointless character... -_-
Sana: Tries to understand why Nanaka was ignoring him; while making an excuse, destroys her impression of the festival night; rightfully shouts at Nanaka at that moment; utterly shocked at the "help me" letter; becomes depressed and gets cheered up by Yuzuki; hugs Nanaka
-----------------------------
Major (speculation) points:
The fire seems to be arson, but the criminal wasn't found.
The shock of the fire caused Nanaka to lose some of her memory of the night of the fire, which definitely did not help police.
When Nanaka talked about "friends" of Sana's, the screen zoomed to his watch. Later, he said that he was going to become stronger.
---
-So far, there isn't any clue to the criminal that burned down the house. My best guess so far is Nanaka's uncle.
-Poor girl...
-Friends, blood, getting stronger...
My speculations:
1. His friend, who gave him the watch, was killed by someone. Sana was traumatized by the events and shut himself inside his room/or tried to commit suicide. His parents decided for him to move back to see if he could get better.
2. Something happened between him and his friend, and Sana killed his friend. After police and other legal actions and such, he was moved back as a way to recover.
---------
One other thought:
I can't figure out whether I should side with Nanaka or not. She blames Sana for leaving her alone when she suffered the most, while he was happily enjoying his time with his new friends. But obviously, that's unreasonable because Sana wouldn't know, and after coming back, no one would say anything...
-----------
Stuff left to resolve:
-Crazy old lady
-Wakatsuki family
-Sana
-------------
Romance-wise, it feels like it could only be Nanaka now. Asami is obviously not in the competition, and doesn't seem to have any intention either.
-------------
Preview - ............Yeah, okay... whatever...
-_- Geez, I wrote a lot...
Awesome, you cleared up some points I missed when I was watching.
Clearly Nanaka doesn't have the right to blame Sana, but her words and actions in the last scene are definitely emotional, not logical. Can you really blame her for feeling abandoned by Sana after knowing her past and seeing all those letters in the box ?
Clearly Nanaka doesn't have the right to blame Sana, but her words and actions in the last scene are definitely emotional, not logical. Can you really blame her for feeling abandoned by Sana after knowing her past and seeing all those letters in the box ?
Nope, can't blame her.
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This was just the best...dam emotional!! And zomfg yes! At last it seems that nanaka and sana will be together by the time this whole shit is sorted out
where to start where to start...
certainly this has now showed that nanaka isn’t at all the bitch she was portrayed to be as in the first few eps. and as predicted the whole flashback was related to how her house burnt down but unlucky for sky his speculation didn’t quite go to plan ~ instead of her parents saving her violin, they were just killed in the blaze without a fighting chance.
we see nanaka jumping out of the window to save her violin but take a special not at the thing she is holding in her other hand ~ yep it was sana's present, now you know who is important in her life.
while sana can’t possibly be blamed for leaving nanaka in her time of need, I can feel for her distress in that she doesn’t have the person she wants most comforting her. at least to offer love and support ~ while shuri, shuu and aoi would have been doing the same, life without sana just isn’t worth it. subsequently this feeling of loneliness soon turned to hate but luckily she was able to somewhat recover since sana arrived.
that big jump in personality is due to shock ~ understandably she tells herself that she has to be strong even with her parents gone, this seems to be why she lost her "shy, easily scared" personality we see (looking at the flashback where she is clinging onto sana).
sana who doesn’t know anything yet shouting at nanaka...it also really isn’t his fault. all this mess happened because of lack of information and I actually give him credit for being a male lead who has a spine...all the time I can only weep for nanaka who is crying...
the flashback on the mail box is just amazingly beautiful. such innocence! such love! even during that time they are both so close together. a secret only known to them, they exchange letters at their spot. I just love seeing these types of childlike-pure scenes.
and before he knew he is standing in front of the mail box, opening it and seeing thousands of mail pouring out. this just shows the love that nanaka have for him. even though she knows that he is gone, she is still posting mail hoping that he could read it. unfortunately, this hope is rather misplaced as he isn’t in town anymore.
the sheer volume of the letters is a total shock to me...and I suspect a lot of them are going to be entitled "save me" right after the accident. and from the top of the pile we see a card with the words of "death" written all over it ~ at this point I have my hand over my mouth thinking about how pitiful nanaka must be...poor girl ;___;
the ending scene was just...amazing...(together with the BGM zomg I was close to tears ;__; ).
for not knowing anything sana apologises to nanaka, but to her it is all too late. she tells him that where he was in her time of need? why wasn’t he with her when she needed him the most? even though she needed him...all those locked up feelings finally poured into a fit of confession and tears.
nanaka doesn’t want his pity and thinks that he has forgotten so that was why she was so mad about him! she feels that he doesn’t care about her anymore now that he has gone off to make new friends ~~ zoom onto his watch ~~
the feeling is really powerful...while at first I would laugh and snigger at how stupid the reason was if she was to explain that it was because he "forgot", but now this is a whole new spin...not the simple fact of him just forgetting but also how she was totally fu*ked up in the head at the time and needed someone to be there. sana was just unlucky to not have been there to feel her "wrath".
but as she releases her feelings we see how she is able to put down this huge luggage from her shoulder and allows him to embrace her, firmly.
she always want to stay by him forever and ever, and with those feelings touching the hearts of even the most insensitive of men, sana is willing to do just that...he has always liked her and now he will do anything to protect this fragile creature.
again the preview from last ep was just dam misleading! I never expected such drama
moving onto sana's reaction with his watch...I have to agree with the speculation that perhaps sana had an important friend that was killed as well (maybe right in front of his eyes or after finding the person's body)...this could have given sana a similar shock to what nanaka experienced. the reason why he moves back to his old town might just be a way to get him back on his feet.
I suspect the watch was given by this "friend".
the episode was also filled with other interesting events. yuzuki having a heart to heart talk to sana was what caused him to come to terms with what he should be doing. funny how she didn’t recognise sana but seen as it was pretty long ago it can’t be helped ^^
geh asami is a totally useless character! imo she is only acting as a plot device to get sana and nanaka together...well at least she had some use ^^]
aoi is just filled with comedy...as if she walked into such a scene, just imagine...a girl walking into a guy's room who has porn magazines on the bed and rolled up tissue on the floor...err...^^
as for shuri...more is needed to see what happened to her during that night...but for sure we know that she is putting on a fake "happy" mask...love her singing though
and shuu...I never expected him to be such an emotional man either. well he feels as much angst as all the other characters during the incident but being a man I guess he just found it powerless that he can’t do anything at all to make nanaka cheer up just that little bit.
He must have been holding this in for so long but finally he is also able to life such a big boulder off his chest...you have done well soldier ;___;
I may be going over the top, but this was the best episode of this season so far. So much emotion. This really wants to make me a go buy the game when it comes out. 10/10 they reall are making one heck of a romance series. And all the characters are one's you can identify with. They have real life issues and are dealing with it like any of us would. That to me makes this one of the better romance's out there and tearjerker.
Couldn't stop a tear from coming into my eye. The story stabs me in the heart.
Spoiler for About Sana:
It is possible that a friend died, and the watch is a reminder of that. I had a friend die from internal bleeding after being blown by a mine while on duty on the DMZ (we were serving our military service at the time, as Marines), and he left me my current watch.
I hope we get more info on Sana's past in episode 10.
Yay for Myself; Yourself being so cliched and predictable
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Originally Posted by Chewy
Awesome, you cleared up some points I missed when I was watching.
Clearly Nanaka doesn't have the right to blame Sana, but her words and actions in the last scene are definitely emotional, not logical. Can you really blame her for feeling abandoned by Sana after knowing her past and seeing all those letters in the box ?
Nope, I blamed Sana for not being very perceptive but then he is 16 and he also has problems.
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