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Dralha · 2010-11-05, 20:25

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Originally Posted by Andrelol

Nice story but very poor animation quality.

I noticed that, too. It just looked weird compared to previous ep's.

Spoiler for Episode 18:

giorno · 2010-11-05, 21:07

no, Sion didn't suffer any injury, he was just emotionally wrecked by Ryner deciding to leave with Tiia...

also, lol @ Ryner's parents. Especially what his father said made me lol for the next 10 minutes....

cors8 · 2010-11-05, 23:12

Animation aside, I'm really enjoying the story. Wish I could read Japanese to spoil myself with the novels.

Methuselah · 2010-11-05, 23:15

Why doesn't Onii-Chan stop her. I mean she's going to leave Roland no and be tainted by that monster!~! :O I want to see Ferris commit to her new feeling and fight his bro.

BTW

This episode's animation reminds me of Naruto. Lame and stupid. Why can't they fund animators like the ones who did Gundam 00 fights - they are ORRGASSSMIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RamzaOwns · 2010-11-06, 00:02

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Originally Posted by Methuselah

Why doesn't Onii-Chan stop her. I mean she's going to leave Roland no and be tainted by that monster!~! :O I want to see Ferris commit to her new feeling and fight his bro.

BTW

This episode's animation reminds me of Naruto. Lame and stupid. Why can't they fund animators like the ones who did Gundam 00 fights - they are ORRGASSSMIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The animators who worked on EP18 also does the key animation for Naruto.

larethian · 2010-11-06, 01:06

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

& i personally loved the animation in this episode. Glad they went with a style that suited such an episode.

not sure what you love about the animation, but look closely at how the characters move. they look awkward and unnatural.

Bombo · 2010-11-06, 01:13

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Originally Posted by Andrelol

Nice story but very poor animation quality.

Spoiler for Ep 18:

ROFL

I'm really enjoying the story..I feel sorry when they look each other ryner and sion from eye to eye..So sad = \.

Johnny · 2010-11-06, 02:03

Looks like a more somber episode coming up next for Ryner. Guess he'll have to find someone else to give him beatings for being a lecher of all living things as Ferris might say...

ninja_pintu · 2010-11-06, 02:35

I wonder who is going to direct the next episodes. I will be happy if it's the same guy who did this episode.

karuroso · 2010-11-06, 03:53

haha this ep reminded me one that Utawarerumono had when the animation changed for only one ep and was also at the middle, plus the fact that the Ryner's father has the same voice of Hakuoro (or so i think =X)

Shiroth · 2010-11-06, 06:30

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Originally Posted by larethian

not sure what you love about the animation, but look closely at how the characters move. they look awkward and unnatural.

May look awkward and unnatural, though the whole episode had quality animation. It's just different opinions on the matter.

-Sho- · 2010-11-06, 06:47

Maybe sometimes the character's design was poor but the quality animation increased. Like some Naruto's episodes (Naruto vs Sasuke S1 , Naruto vs Pain )and other anime . This make the whole scene more dynamic than previous quality . (It affects the frames etc...)

Anyway , i like Ferris's new clothes , she's looking for Ryner. I wonder who are Tiir's friends , i guess that they are Alpha stigma's bearer too .

Nightengale · 2010-11-06, 07:46

Which novel did this episode end on?

Chaos2Frozen · 2010-11-06, 08:41

Woah woah... What just happen to the animation?

That aside there's a huge sign on top of this episode that says "TURNING POINT!" in the story

But more than anything conflicted-emotions Ferris was high on my favorite list

Haak · 2010-11-06, 08:55

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

May look awkward and unnatural, though the whole episode had quality animation. It's just different opinions on the matter.

Yeah, I couldn't decide if it was poor animation or just an art shift. Some things did look rather unnatural, but I also saw some really good camera angles (is that the right term?) that gave it lot more atmosphere and emotion.

This is by far the best episode in my opinion.

Nightengale · 2010-11-06, 09:06

This kind of animation feels better when it has people punching each other in the face, since it maximizes dynamic movement with free-form contortion. Or when there are effects that are directly animated, and not applied on with extra graphical layers. It's not as good, but it feels similar to the raw animation style that Norio Matsumoto loves to use in his Naruto/Birdy the Mighty episodes.

It's definitely great animation, undoubtedly. It's just not too common, since simplistic 'stick-to-the-line-art' animation that favours visual consistency and balance are more common. It's really up to individual preference on which is nicer to look at, but it definitely utilizes the animation frames more effectively without falling back to cost-cutting measures like speed lines/etc.

mechalord · 2010-11-06, 09:12

That sort of action animation is too ARTSY!!!

It supposed to convey fluidity. Flow-like-water kung fu.

Used Can · 2010-11-06, 10:22

Personally, I've always despised this sort of animation... not to call it outright QUALITY. But, either way, no matter how shit the animation and designs may have been in my opinion, the episode itself (plot-wise) was really good. I wish they would have kept the whole scene with Ryner and Ferris in the shop as it was in the LN, though, but I guess that's too much too ask.

klare · 2010-11-06, 10:37

they must be rushing or took a cut of budget for eps 18 to produce this kind of artwork...

anyway the twist at the end of the eps is unexpected, the good news is Ferris with new dress

Andrelol · 2010-11-06, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Methuselah

Why doesn't Onii-Chan stop her. I mean she's going to leave Roland no and be tainted by that monster!~! :O I want to see Ferris commit to her new feeling and fight his bro.

BTW

This episode's animation reminds me of Naruto. Lame and stupid. Why can't they fund animators like the ones who did Gundam 00 fights - they are ORRGASSSMIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The animation really is not about the animators, but about money.

Pretty much every anime studio can do high quality animation: they just need money. An episode animated by 50 professionals will be always better (in terms of animation quality) than an episode animated by 20 people.

When you don't have enough animators, this is what happens:

Spoiler for lol:

2010-11-06, 02:35	Link #1089
ninja_pintu Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Age: 33	I wonder who is going to direct the next episodes. I will be happy if it's the same guy who did this episode. __________________

2010-11-06, 07:46	Link #1093
Nightengale ~Night of Gales~ Author Join Date: Dec 2005	Which novel did this episode end on? __________________ *Night~and~Gale: ~ The Final Mythology of the Man who Defied Destiny.* The sleeping lion shall awaken beyond the depths of time, crossing ten billion lights, come to Terra.

2010-11-06, 08:41	Link #1094
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	Woah woah... What just happen to the animation? That aside there's a huge sign on top of this episode that says "TURNING POINT!" in the story But more than anything conflicted-emotions Ferris was high on my favorite list __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2010-11-06, 09:06	Link #1096
Nightengale ~Night of Gales~ Author Join Date: Dec 2005	This kind of animation feels better when it has people punching each other in the face, since it maximizes dynamic movement with free-form contortion. Or when there are effects that are directly animated, and not applied on with extra graphical layers. It's not as good, but it feels similar to the raw animation style that Norio Matsumoto loves to use in his Naruto/Birdy the Mighty episodes. It's definitely great animation, undoubtedly. It's just not too common, since simplistic 'stick-to-the-line-art' animation that favours visual consistency and balance are more common. It's really up to individual preference on which is nicer to look at, but it definitely utilizes the animation frames more effectively without falling back to cost-cutting measures like speed lines/etc. __________________ *Night~and~Gale: ~ The Final Mythology of the Man who Defied Destiny.* The sleeping lion shall awaken beyond the depths of time, crossing ten billion lights, come to Terra.

2010-11-06, 10:22	Link #1098
Used Can Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Personally, I've always despised this sort of animation... not to call it outright QUALITY. But, either way, no matter how shit the animation and designs may have been in my opinion, the episode itself (plot-wise) was really good. I wish they would have kept the whole scene with Ryner and Ferris in the shop as it was in the LN, though, but I guess that's too much too ask. __________________ "The name is Tin; Used is just an alias. I'm everything Shoe Box would like to be." - Used Can of the Aluminium Kingdom

2010-11-05, 21:07	Link #1082
giorno Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009	no, Sion didn't suffer any injury, he was just emotionally wrecked by Ryner deciding to leave with Tiia... also, lol @ Ryner's parents. Especially what his father said made me lol for the next 10 minutes....

2010-11-05, 23:12	Link #1083
cors8 Kuu-chan is hungry Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC	Animation aside, I'm really enjoying the story. Wish I could read Japanese to spoil myself with the novels.

2010-11-05, 23:15	Link #1084
Methuselah Payback is a b*t#8, huh? Join Date: May 2007	Why doesn't Onii-Chan stop her. I mean she's going to leave Roland no and be tainted by that monster!~! :O I want to see Ferris commit to her new feeling and fight his bro. BTW This episode's animation reminds me of Naruto. Lame and stupid. Why can't they fund animators like the ones who did Gundam 00 fights - they are ORRGASSSMIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2010-11-06, 02:03	Link #1088
Johnny Working the bags... Join Date: Mar 2009	Looks like a more somber episode coming up next for Ryner. Guess he'll have to find someone else to give him beatings for being a lecher of all living things as Ferris might say...

2010-11-06, 03:53	Link #1090
karuroso Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	haha this ep reminded me one that Utawarerumono had when the animation changed for only one ep and was also at the middle, plus the fact that the Ryner's father has the same voice of Hakuoro (or so i think =X)

2010-11-06, 06:47	Link #1092
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	Maybe sometimes the character's design was poor but the quality animation increased. Like some Naruto's episodes (Naruto vs Sasuke S1 , Naruto vs Pain )and other anime . This make the whole scene more dynamic than previous quality . (It affects the frames etc...) Anyway , i like Ferris's new clothes , she's looking for Ryner. I wonder who are Tiir's friends , i guess that they are Alpha stigma's bearer too .

2010-11-06, 09:12	Link #1097
mechalord Deploying Funnel Cakes Join Date: Jan 2008	That sort of action animation is too ARTSY!!! It supposed to convey fluidity. Flow-like-water kung fu.

2010-11-06, 10:37	Link #1099
klare Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	they must be rushing or took a cut of budget for eps 18 to produce this kind of artwork... anyway the twist at the end of the eps is unexpected, the good news is Ferris with new dress