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2012-05-22, 12:37 | Link #262 | |
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Hell Johnson was no more useful than standard marine fodder yet a lot of people loved him simply because he was likable. As long as they where well written and properly developed characters I could forgive some dodgy AI.
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2012-05-23, 06:26 | Link #264 | |
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It's not so much *upgraded*. They just took all the surviving Spartan II's and III's and rolled them over into the Spartan IV program (I.E., put them in the same detachments as Spartan IV's).
The big improvement with the IV's was that they improved the augmentation procedure so that they no longer needed children. They could specially select veteran marines or ODST and augment them. Spartans are kinda like Mobile suits. The production models aren't quite as good as the prototypes Quote:
edit: I think if I was to change anything in Reach, I'd drop the entire Noble Team idea, and keep Noble Six as a *lone wolf*...but I'd keep Jorge and *maybe in the game. He could easily be one of the Spartan II's who got split off from the pack in a drop, and ended up teaming up with Six on the ground. Kat could be Six's new partner for the spooky ops. As for the others? They just never had enough presence in the game to justify being there.
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2012-05-25, 16:23 | Link #265 | |
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2012-05-25, 17:03 | Link #266 | |
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2012-05-25, 17:25 | Link #267 | |
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I can understand the anger and such but IMO it was the best decision the UNSC went forward as it literally saved them in the end and carried them forward. That's why I said it's better for that program to be put under the carpet and forgotten. |
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2012-05-26, 01:14 | Link #268 | |
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2012-05-26, 05:45 | Link #269 |
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Why exactly WOULD the UNSC reveal that the Spartan II's were kidnapped children?
The whole idea of the flash cloning thing was so that it would cover their tracks, and nobody would know there had been abductions. It certainly is going to get covered even better, when you consider that most of their home colonies have been glassed.
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2012-05-26, 12:16 | Link #270 |
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I don't have the novel in front of me but this is what I remember and I'll check it later on.
The admiral was pissed off at Halsey for lying to her about the clones as she never approved of them in the first place. Her idea was to simply take the children in, never replaced them with flash clones. And before she retired she stated that she was going to hand over everything she did including the Spartan II program to the Defence committee. This is where one of the ODSTs talked about "a million parents who lost their kids are going to be banging on the UNSC's door" IMO it's the worse decision as the UNSC is barely recovering from the war and the peace isn't exactly set in stone either. The UNSC is at the moment sending fleets to recover lost grounds including colonies that haven't been glassed whether they like it or not. I know we've talked about this before and some people pointed out that the UNSC was a fascist government but it's because of those hard actions and decisions that they lasted so long and survived. The Spartan II program was suppose to be a program that would terminate insurgency (which was getting worse) in their infancy before it became worse. It was a necessary evil. When the covenant arrived the Spartan II program was what gave a morale boost to the UNSC. |
2012-05-26, 12:45 | Link #271 |
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Is Halsey nuts if she reveals that the UNSC will have a major back lash of public outrage and that can easily help many of the organizations looking for Independence from the UNSC. Yes they do still exist
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2012-05-26, 12:56 | Link #272 |
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I believe it's not in the UNSC but more Admiral Parangosky herself that was giving up classified info.
She is gonna had over info about her involvement in the Spartan II program, which she wasn't gonna take to her grave. Yea I can see that causing quite the uproar but even she knew what they were doing was wrong. "It was a necessary evil" is best way to describe everything with the Spartan II and III programs. Altho Halsey's cloning debacle was not necessary, thats one point thats pointed out.
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2012-05-26, 12:59 | Link #273 |
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the cloning thing thing was dumb but do you guys think that parents will accept inducting children into the military nope.
they would still have to kidnap em. That may fly in ancient Sparta but it does not fly anywhere else
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2012-05-26, 15:54 | Link #276 |
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Well seems like we have pre-order bonuses for Halo 4 from retailers such as eb games.ca, Play.com, Amazon.com, and Gamestop.com
http://www.allgamesbeta.com/2012/05/...pre-order.html I'm kinda surprised that they didn't announce one for Best Buy. (I wanted to rank up on my reward points, damn it) I like the amazon.com pre-order skin, and the Deadeye helmet from play.com it looks like one of the elite helmets. |
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It's a bit questionable what even a rogue element releasing this information would accomplish. ONI would be quick to try to suppress the information and downplay it as a conspiracy theory. Quote:
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There really was no need to clone the kids and return them. It makes the familes stick out more as if or when the info is revealed it can be easier to track down which famlies were affected, if they are still alive. They will know if their child was abducted for the Spartan program. Halsey thought to herself she was doing the cloning for some sense of closure for the parents and herslef, some sense of repentance as well for what she was gonna and had already done to the kids. Quote:
She may be the only person that holds more power than Admiral Hood. She's handing the info over to the UEG Commitee(which is the Unified Earth Government), it will be outta the UNSC's hands after that I imagine. Spoiler for Halsey:
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