Ever17 -The Out of Infinity-

[EternalDragonWarrior]

Ever 17 is indeed a masterpiece, I'm on the verge of getting the final ending ^_^

[darlliu]

E17 is my second fav of all kid's works, the first being mo2.Even now everytime i hear the voice of mizuki nana i think about hotaru-chan
Actually the tsugumi(her va just married, ouch...) normal ending nearly had me cried,wow,I didnt even feel too depressed after air ending.

[4as]

Originally Posted by EternalDragonWarrior

Ever 17 is indeed a masterpiece

TRUE!

Originally Posted by darlliu

tsugumi normal ending nearly had me cried,wow,I didnt even feel too depressed after air ending.

So true! Personally I think it is one of the best.
I saw many other good ending, but they are slowing fading away for my memory -just not Ever17 ones.

Originally Posted by darlliu

E17 is my second fav of all kid's works, the first being mo2.

"mo2"? Is it avaiable in english ? :S

[dsp2003]

"mo2"? Is it avaiable in english ? :S

I'm not sure about it, but... english version of Ever17_us.exe contains a few interesting strings directly from the Memories Off 2nd (watch with an HEX-editor) -- so, yes, it's quite possible.

Personally I think it is one of the best.
I saw many other good ending, but they are slowing fading away for my memory -just not Ever17 ones.

True. Empathy, the one of mine personal "shortcomings". Because of it, i *can't* shake the scene from my memory (and, to tell you the truth, i'll never wish to do so).

P.S. Personally, i think there's isn't much left for me to say. Thank you very much, friends. See you next year. Kisses.

[EternalDragonWarrior]

...

And to think I though the game was great BEFORE the final ending...

I haven't seen a story this good since Xenosaga. Ever 17 has now risen to the status of my favourite visual novel ^_^

[OrcAttack]

This has to be my favorite game of all time.

I remember someone on here asking where to find the sound track in the usa. I got it from playasia.com

[Kinoo]

I just finished the game and all I can say is wow that had the BEST story I have ever played I am very impressed

And sadly now part of myself has officially died T_T

[kgptzac]

Originally Posted by dsp2003

Spoiler:

Hehehe... oh my. You didn't get it, right? REMEMBER the Opening: Suzunori (Ryogo) gone crazy and jumped into the pool BECAUSE Hokuto *was jumping into water without waiting for submarine* 17 years and 7 days after.

Why? Because of Blick Winkel's memory ("Now he had know the truth and his lips were trembling. --Where's the real "me"?" These words is not only about the Hokuto, but *both* Hokuto and Suzunori. Both of them got amnesia *NOT* because Blick Winkel EXPECTED this to happen, but because of RUSH of TRIPPLE-personality memories (Takeshi's, Hokuto's and Blick's himself) -- who can whistand THAT?

Sounds crazy? Look at this from my point of view.

Spoiler:

imo, both hokuto and Kaburaki Ryougo ("Suzunori" should be a mistranslation of "Ryougo")'s amnesia are due to "BW's Cure", that in an infinity loop, both of their amensia are both the cause and the result (or the undistinguishability) of the misinformation of "Ryougo = amnesia kid = Hokuto". If triple personality does exist then why did not takeshi go crazy? Only in Coco's arc does BW realize its self as a separate entity apart from the Kid, so BW's "memory" as he shadowed Takeshi is only a "subconcious" thing to BW until the very end, where BW fully realize its self and even takeshi's action were influnced...

Originally Posted by Gabest1

Hm, anyone up for a little challenge? I have unpacked the script.dat of never7, and now looking for people to translate it (better than google)

My sincere wish for your project to go well. I played N7 Chinese version and I'd say Izumi's Cure ending was as deep and intriguing as E17's core philosophy. I would suggest you to just translate the script of Izumi's two Cure arks and publish them apart from the game since I doube how many people nowadays are willing to accept N7's old school drawing style.

[Rayneing]

Hey guys? I went to the 12Riven Homepage but instead of the usual site there is just a bunch of text. Could someone translate and help find out whats going on with 12Riven?

[4as]

Originally Posted by Rayneing

Hey guys? I went to the 12Riven Homepage but instead of the usual site there is just a bunch of text. Could someone translate and help find out whats going on with 12Riven?

Well, I see trailers, downloads, gallery and other stuff so it seems like it is back to the "usual site".

[kgptzac]

Originally Posted by Rayneing

Hey guys? I went to the 12Riven Homepage but instead of the usual site there is just a bunch of text. Could someone translate and help find out whats going on with 12Riven?

it was a delay notice saying the game will be released on feb 14, 2008.

[Gubcee]

Hey there. I would like to ask where i can find a flowchart for ever 17. I know there was one in the set, but shame on me, i couldn't afford to buy the game... I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.

[kgptzac]

e17 visual fan book:
http://www.kgptzac.info/gallery/e17_vfb/index.html

spoiler warning and it's in japanese

[luckyovermind]

Originally Posted by kgptzac

I played N7 Chinese version and I'd say Izumi's Cure ending was as deep and intriguing as E17's core philosophy. I would suggest you to just translate the script of Izumi's two Cure arks and publish them apart from the game since I doube how many people nowadays are willing to accept N7's old school drawing style.

Except the exciting part, I actually found the normal lives on that island to be quite enjoyable and memorable. Everytime I listened to the track: "warmth", It reminds me of that tennis court, that moonlight beach, that little restaurant beside the sea, and that place where sakura petals fall. And it makes me feel calm at heart.

[dsp2003]

Originally posted by kgptzac.

Spoiler:

If triple personality does exist then why did not takeshi go crazy? Only in Coco's arc does BW realize its self as a separate entity apart from the Kid, so BW's "memory" as he shadowed Takeshi is only a "subconcious" thing to BW until the very end, where BW fully realize its self and even takeshi's action were influnced...

Spoiler:

Ooooooh. T___T I'll never bring my mind to english words well, i guess...

IMHO Takeshi was the *first* BW's experience. And, as you know, he has a STRONG spirit. IMHO He could control himself. He wasn't the same as Ryogo or Hokuto. And, don't forget that the BW itself do not have any memories of 3D world at all. But Takeshi's *contact* forced it to obtain his memory & personality. Actually, Takeshi was on the same line to go crazy, but he whistanded... because it *was* the Takeshi already.

Spoiler for Taken from AnimeForum.ru:

"Blick Winkel is not the all-seeing-eye. Because even Coco knows a lot more about the situation than it."

[kgptzac]

Originally Posted by luckyovermind

Except the exciting part, I actually found the normal lives on that island to be quite enjoyable and memorable. Everytime I listened to the track: "warmth", It reminds me of that tennis court, that moonlight beach, that little restaurant beside the sea, and that place where sakura petals fall. And it makes me feel calm at heart.

T__T good to be you... I can never manage myself to like N7's art... never... I guess only if I have met the game 2 years earlier than I did, N7 could probably have a chance...

Originally Posted by dsp2003

Spoiler:

Ooooooh. T___T I'll never bring my mind to english words well, i guess...

IMHO Takeshi was the *first* BW's experience. And, as you know, he has a STRONG spirit. IMHO He could control himself. He wasn't the same as Ryogo or Hokuto. And, don't forget that the BW itself do not have any memories of 3D world at all. But Takeshi's *contact* forced it to obtain his memory & personality. Actually, Takeshi was on the same line to go crazy, but he whistanded... because it *was* the Takeshi already.

Spoiler for Taken from AnimeForum.ru:

"Blick Winkel is not the all-seeing-eye. Because even Coco knows a lot more about the situation than it."

Spoiler:

I didn't really write in english recently so if you ever find stuff I said ambigious or spelled wrongly, don't be surprised >_<

E17's concept is, there's no BW's first experience. It's all in a loop; BW wouldn't have reason to shadow Takeshi and involve itself into the whole affair if not You'haru did not confront it on Insel Null in 2034; and You'haru wouldn't get the "revalation" from BW in 2017 if... BW didn't go cross time. Therefore, there is no "first experience" of BW because Blick Winkel is a being that is outside of definition of time, when itself fully realizes its nature.

The reason why Coco got it all figured out before BW did was because, in my opinion the game roughtly meant to say that, Coco can see what BW see. Yet BW can't see what Coco went through, therefore giving Coco the advantage over avaliable information.

[4as]

Originally Posted by kgptzac

Spoiler:

The reason why Coco got it all figured out before BW did was because, in my opinion the game roughtly meant to say that, Coco can see what BW see. Yet BW can't see what Coco went through, therefore giving Coco the advantage over avaliable information.

Quoted for true.

Spoiler for Kid's memory lose:

Takeshi didn't lose his memory because BW had simply observ his actions and possible routes (One can say that Takeshi's path had already been written)
But in Kid's case BW had possessed him, thus "masking" his real memory and allowing to act on his own will.

[kgptzac]

something random... for those who played Remember 11...

[endlezz]

Hi!

I just got Ever17 and its truly amazing!

I got a quenstion though: How many endings does Takeshi have? I have so far obtained Tsugumi Ver. Good Ending and Sora/Tsugumi Ver. Bad Ending. Does he have one or two good endings with Tsugumi?

If there are two good endings with Tsugumi, can anyone please post a way to obtain the second one, as I cant seem to manage to get it. The Flowchart does not contain the choices to get to the second good ending...

[Rayneing]

Tsugumi only has one good ending. Same for everyone else.