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Old 2014-01-29, 15:13   Link #221
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Toshi is toshi <3
I really love the OST during his siscon LOL.
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Old 2014-01-29, 15:45   Link #222
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This show ended up being the one I looks forward to the most every week haha

We got to see why Uka loves otome games; I'm glad it's not just for laughs.

I died when all the women were blushing at "Inari's" flirting.

And why was Touka only buttoning half his shirt at home? lol not that I minded =P
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Old 2014-01-29, 16:53   Link #223
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Saw ep. 4. A considerable amount was cut out compared to the manga, and some scenes were combined. Overall it felt rushed to me. I don't see why, but there was definitely enough time for this to be spread across 2 eps., and this is judging from the pace of the last 2 episodes. I'm disappointed that some memorable (and funny) parts were left out.
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Old 2014-01-29, 17:17   Link #224
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Ouch ouch ouch ouch. At least three and a half chapters jumped over between the two halves of this episode. While some of the specific stories for one or two of those chapters may not have been of great importance, the development both of characters and of plot-threads for the overall storylines absolutely was of importance, and I can feel the places that should have had emotional impact and didn't because the development that should have given it to them wasn't there.

And they jumped over the beginning of another long-running plotline that is critical both in showing Inari's development and the development and personality of another character.

Yes, it is entirely possible for folks who don't know what they're missing to not notice anything wrong, but there are events and interactions between characters here that should have a weight of history behind them; of previous events and previous interactions with each other that make the present events and interactions more meaningful; and because of the way this was done those things aren't there. However functional it might be, this episode cannot help but be weaker because of what is missing.
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Old 2014-01-29, 17:58   Link #225
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I'm still not sure why they think skipping so many chapters of relevant content is ever a good idea. I guess the only studios you can really expect to animate the source material one for one would be White Fox, KyoAni, Madhouse and a few others. That's a shame.

Enjoyable episode but all in all, this adaptation's a total bust (as a manga reader).
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Old 2014-01-29, 18:00   Link #226
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As an anime only watcher I didn't feel anything was missing, but I have no idea how what was left out will affect future episodes, so I can't judge whether the anime team is doing a good job. At any rate, I don't think this was rushed and I don't feel lost, so this works for me so far.

New characters -including a very fun one- were introduced, we got some interesting backstory on Uka, and Touka and Uka grew closer after their stormy beginning. Plenty of great stuff. I particularly enjoyed Uka and Touka's interaction. I have no doubt Touka will be the one who will bring Uka back to the 3D side, but I'm not sure we'll get to see that in the anime given the low numbers of episodes.

It looks like giving her power to Inari affected Uka. I guess it's only natural for her to be weakened since part of her power is missing. The obvious solution would be to have Inari give it back as the others suggested, but if she does, she won't be able to see Uka anymore (why? she saw her just fine in ep 1 before she made her wish). Oh, the drama...
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Old 2014-01-29, 18:14   Link #227
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It looks like giving her power to Inari affected Uka. I guess it's only natural for her to be weakened since part of her power is missing.
Some of what's missing is the more gradual and detailed reveal of that information.

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The obvious solution would be to have Inari give it back as the others suggested, but if she does, she won't be able to see Uka anymore (why? she saw her just fine in ep 1 before she made her wish)
You know they never actually explain that. The best I can come up with is a theory that Uka could, for the purpose of granting Inari a wish (and perhaps because Inari was a favored person of the shrine) temporarily give even an ordinary person a "spiritual experience," thus allowing Inari to see her in the beginning.
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Old 2014-01-29, 18:20   Link #228
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I was also confused by the fact that the issue with Inari giving her power back to Uka-sama seems to be the idea that she won't be able to see her anymore (which is contradictory) rather than the fact that she still looks like Sumizome and the only reason she got the shape shifting ability in the first place was to cover that issue. Moreover, it also confused me when Inari's little fox familiar told her that one way of telling if her power has stabilised is to see how long she can transform for, despite the fact that she should still technically be in a tranformation.

Did I miss something?
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Old 2014-01-29, 18:23   Link #229
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Some of what's missing is the more gradual and detailed reveal of that information.


You know they never actually explain that. The best I can come up with is a theory that Uka could, for the purpose of granting Inari a wish (and perhaps because Inari was a favored person of the shrine) temporarily give even an ordinary person a "spiritual experience," thus allowing Inari to see her in the beginning.
Actually that makes sense. I thought it was due to Uka sharing a portion of her powers to Inari, and as a result of Inari using too much of it, Uka's strength gets zapped.
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Old 2014-01-29, 18:34   Link #230
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I was also confused by the fact that the issue with Inari giving her power back to Uka-sama seems to be the idea that she won't be able to see her anymore (which is contradictory) rather than the fact that she still looks like Sumizome and the only reason she got the shape shifting ability in the first place was to cover that issue. Moreover, it also confused me when Inari's little fox familiar told her that one way of telling if her power has stabilised is to see how long she can transform for, despite the fact that she should still technically be in a tranformation.

Did I miss something?
The wish that transformed her into Sumizome appears to have been counted by the transformation power as a transformation away from her true form. In other words, the divine power considers Inari's true form to be Inari, not Sumizome.

As for the length of the transformation issue, a detail that has been cut out from the adaptation includes Inari attempting to hold a transformation for too long.

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Actually that makes sense. I thought it was due to Uka sharing a portion of her powers to Inari, and as a result of Inari using too much of it, Uka's strength gets zapped.
Well now, sure. The two of them have become linked ever since Uka gave Inari that bit of power to eat, and the more power Inari uses the less Uka has for herself.
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Old 2014-01-29, 18:44   Link #231
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Some of what's missing is the more gradual and detailed reveal of that information.


You know they never actually explain that. The best I can come up with is a theory that Uka could, for the purpose of granting Inari a wish (and perhaps because Inari was a favored person of the shrine) temporarily give even an ordinary person a "spiritual experience," thus allowing Inari to see her in the beginning.
I thought Inari's strong feelings had allowed her to develop the ability to see the fox spirits and Uka. At least that's the explanation Uka gave in the first episode, that's why I was confused. I don't think it was Uka who temporarily granted her the ability to see her since Inari's second visit wasn't planned (she caught her in the middle of playing dating sims ), unless it was a 24 hours deal or something. Furthermore, I don't get why Inari wouldn't be able to see her while her brother can, but I assume this particular point will be explained later since it seems like it's very rare for humans to see deities.
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Old 2014-01-29, 18:46   Link #232
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I thought Inari's strong feelings had allowed her to develop the ability to see the fox spirits and Uka. At least that's the explanation Uka gave in the first episode, that's why I was confused. I don't think it was Uka who temporarily granted her the ability to see her since Inari's second visit wasn't planned (she caught her in the middle of playing dating sims ), unless it was a 24 hours deal or something. Furthermore, I don't get why Inari wouldn't be able to see her while her brother can, but I assume this particular point will be explained later since it seems like it's very rare for humans to see deities.
Let's just chalk it up to his chuunibyou, .
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Old 2014-01-29, 18:48   Link #233
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Let's just chalk it up to his chuunibyou, .
haha

Now that I think about it, his "spiritual awareness" since early childhood might have contributed to some of that.
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Old 2014-01-29, 19:21   Link #234
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I thought Inari's strong feelings had allowed her to develop the ability to see the fox spirits and Uka. At least that's the explanation Uka gave in the first episode, that's why I was confused. I don't think it was Uka who temporarily granted her the ability to see her since Inari's second visit wasn't planned (she caught her in the middle of playing dating sims ), unless it was a 24 hours deal or something. Furthermore, I don't get why Inari wouldn't be able to see her while her brother can, but I assume this particular point will be explained later since it seems like it's very rare for humans to see deities.
You may not have noticed, but Touka actually can't see the fox spirits. Remember, even people with strong spiritual powers can't see them.

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Inari was able to see Kon at the river, apparently because of her love for the shrine, but no one else coud have, and she normally still wouldn't have been able to see Uka.
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Old 2014-01-29, 22:10   Link #235
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Well, as someone who follows the manga as well I hafta say they are doing a fine job in the adaptation in my opinion so far.

Miya shows up in this ep, which is a treat as she is one of my fave "lesser charas".

Overall just well done - yes, and the ED is really appropo for Uka as well as lovely. ^^
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Old 2014-01-29, 22:24   Link #236
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Must say Uka-sama isnt really shy abut crashing somewhere but must say her bother have one hell of a sister complex
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Old 2014-01-30, 01:56   Link #237
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I'm still not sure why they think skipping so many chapters of relevant content is ever a good idea. I guess the only studios you can really expect to animate the source material one for one would be White Fox, KyoAni, Madhouse and a few others. That's a shame.

Enjoyable episode but all in all, this adaptation's a total bust (as a manga reader).
Hmmm, I'm guessing that the fact that it's a new studio and that they are only going for 10 episodes has a lot to do with the cuts and skips. While it irks me that some of my well liked scenes are missing (Uka's eyes didn't turn into "desire mode" in front of the Wii).... but I have to say that at least the anime is coming out better than what I expected it (I can't remember the last time that a "non mainstream manga only work that turned anime" turned out not to be clinge worthy on my end).

Latin lover mode Touka kinda fits with his chuuni theme :Heh: , and since they removed some of his interactions with the cast, him "fighting" with Inari and Uka felt much less powerful. Oh, and of course I missed that scene

Spoiler for Happens first thing, the next day after Inari took a bath:
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Old 2014-01-30, 02:45   Link #238
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Hmmm, I'm guessing that the fact that it's a new studio and that they are only going for 10 episodes has a lot to do with the cuts and skips. While it irks me that some of my well liked scenes are missing (Uka's eyes didn't turn into "desire mode" in front of the Wii).... but I have to say that at least the anime is coming out better than what I expected it (I can't remember the last time that a "non mainstream manga only work that turned anime" turned out not to be clinge worthy on my end).

Latin lover mode Touka kinda fits with his chuuni theme :Heh: , and since they removed some of his interactions with the cast, him "fighting" with Inari and Uka felt much less powerful. Oh, and of course I missed that scene

Spoiler for Happens first thing, the next day after Inari took a bath:
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He does it twice and almost a third time later just before that marriage meeting arc. Thats why I recomend to anime only viewers to read the manga when they get a chance because they are missing a handful of priceless moments.
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Old 2014-01-30, 07:58   Link #239
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I'm fine without the groping
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Old 2014-01-30, 08:22   Link #240
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The groping is not significant. Continued interactions and growth between the characters, which is missing, is. The interactions between Touka and Uka would have been much more powerful had their numerous meetings between him yelling at her in the beginning of the episode and then everything else actualy been shown. Especially the point where he said he hated her, causing her to reel away in shock, and then walk out of the room, sadly. Because of all the time they had spent together up until that point (time this adaptation cut out) she had at least considered him a friend by then. It truly hurt her when he said that.

I'm am concerned that the beginning of a long-running plot that was jumped over will result in one of the major points that shows Inari's growth, and gives us more depth on another character, being skipped. Hopefully they've simply rearranged the order on this point rather than cut it entirely.
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