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View Poll Results: Steins;Gate - Episode 23 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 132 | 80.98% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 20 | 12.27% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 4.91% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 1.23% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 0.61% | |
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2011-09-09, 07:33 | Link #144 |
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Hmm, this show is just one giant time paradox.
So Okabe went back in time to prevent Kurisu from dying but was the one who killed her in the first place? And the future Okabe experienced everything the current Okabe did (witnessing Kurisu's corpse, saving Mayuri repeatedly, trying to save Kurisu again) but decided to wait 15 years and build a real time machine. That means time traveling is part of his life in all world lines? |
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That doesn't mean that other Okabes have or haven't done similar things, though. Only that future Okabe in the video isn't evidence of it. And waiting 15 years to create a time machine means that SERN doesn't take over, and instead WWIII happens. And this time the time machine is 'Perfect'. In other words, it can take multiple physical bodies back and forth through time. Even with the experimental knowledge Okabe has at this moment (at the narrative present moment), he wouldn't be able to create a time machine that good. And what paradox do you see? So far, though the concept of multiple timelines, the only odd thing is Okabe's Reading Steiner.
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2011-09-09, 11:55 | Link #146 | |
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Okabe see Kurisu died > send the text msg > Okabe jump to Alpha world and meet her > jump back to Beta world line and want to save Kurisu > killed her (due to Attractor Field) > create a time machine to fake Kurisu's death > Okabe see Kurisu died So what is the original cause in this infinite loops? In another word, the paradoxes in Stein;gates only can be explained if every time they "time travel", they jump to a completely different parallel world/ world line. Because then it's no longer time traveling and won't cause any time paradox
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2011-09-09, 12:10 | Link #147 | |
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The important thing to this world-trunk is not that Kurisu dies, it's that Okabe thinks she's dead, and sends a cell-phone message to that effect while the Phone Microwave is on. Through that, he figures he can jump the world-trunk by making her survive and fulfill the condition above. So, by your definition, there isn't any time traveling in this series at all. They're jumping to different times in different worlds... which I'd call time traveling.
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2011-09-09, 17:01 | Link #148 | |
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So he saves this Kurisu by faking her death... then does that meant when he travels forward in time a month later, Kurisu will be alive? But she won't retain her memories of the other world lines. |
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2011-09-09, 17:11 | Link #149 |
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It's debatable exactly on whether or not Kurisu remembers her world line experiences, since she confessed in episode 22 that she has hazy memories at best that she remembers everything she's been through, and there seemed to be a few small hints in episode 23 that she at least recognized Okabe to some extent.
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2011-09-09, 22:24 | Link #150 |
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Physical Time Travelling doesnt change world line only d-mail do...
this steins gate was destined to true end route since at first ep there is the d-video from the future okabe which mean the whole okabe going to alpha and beta line are destined to happen at the start. future okabe d-video received>Okabe see Kurisu died > send the text msg > Okabe jump to Alpha world and meet her > jump back to Beta world line and want to save Kurisu > killed her (due to Attractor Field) >the future okabe send d-video + create a time machine to fake Kurisu's death > Okabe see Kurisu died basiclly think of the show steins gate as to what happen when future okabe send d-video and when present okabe using that d-video+future suzu to make sure present okabe do it right and change world line to steins gate not really spoiler but... my question is how can they switch out metal opa when the past okabe observed, so shouldnt the attractor field force it to be metal opa no matter what?( even though i know how it ends it just doesnt make sense to me...) or does attractor field only attract human life and not object... |
2011-09-10, 02:20 | Link #151 | |
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Though the problem with this is, if present Okarin successfully moves to a Steins;Gate worldline, that would mean there can be no 33-year-old Okarins that will kickstart all of this again. It's like a gap in the middle of the timeline.
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2011-09-10, 02:29 | Link #152 |
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If all these world line is independent, and when Okarin "time travel", he simply just shift a copy of himself to another world, then this would only means two things:
In another word, among those hundreds worlds, or let's just call it "fragments" (but don't state out where it referenced because it will spoil others), there are just few when Okarin reached the happy ending of "Stein Gates"
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2011-09-10, 02:53 | Link #153 |
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What a stretch of episodes these past 3 have been. I slightly prefer episode 22 out of all of them for it's impossible choice scenario and impeccable romantic drama of the kind I rarely get to see done to my satisfaction, but not by much.
For a penultimate episode this indeed does it's job quite well. Providing answers to long asked questions from the beginning of the series, and providing a possible solution to the dilemma of finding the perfect timeline where all the characters survive and there's no WWIII. Not much else to add, looking forward to the ending and will be sad to say goodbye to such good characters. |
2011-09-10, 05:14 | Link #154 | |
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Attractor field force that 'someone' will get oppa ,but it doesn't mean it has to be a metal one. if Dr. Naka... has normal oppa with him, it won't trigger the security system. |
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2011-09-10, 07:10 | Link #155 |
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Ooo, what an exciting cliff hangar! And well blended into the original game's opening theme! Now we all just wait for the plan to flow into action.
But again, I'd like to see the other drama CD animated too though. Spoiler for Drama CD:
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2011-09-10, 14:59 | Link #160 |
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Lots of answers in this ep !
I wondered why Kurisu didn't say anything about who stabbed her last ep .... that's because she didn't want to burden him. And the reason because Okabe 2015 could not come with Suzuha is because it was needed that Okabe august 2010 kill Kurisu to awaken this pain. I loved how Suzuha look at Okabe at the end of the ep xD But why could he see the video after failing and not before ?? |
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