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Old 2011-09-25, 12:10   Link #4101
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Even when the manga's tittle has Medaka's name in it, the main character is and has always been Zenkichi. Everything revolves around him, plus he's the narrator as well. Not to mention how many things he has achieved during the course of this long adventure:

-He's a normal, people like Shiranui like him a lot.
-Is the only normal who defeated an abnormal (Last Carpet)
-Calls the interest of both abnormals (Naze) and minus (Mukae)
-He being the only one who can make Medaka regain her sanity when she goes Perses Mode, shocked the likes of Unzen, Kumagawa, etc
-Despite being normal, he can do things like walking on walls
-Ajimu granted him with a power, yet he refuses to use it unless he has no choice
-His actions shocked even the Chairman himself
-He shares relationship with both Kumagawa and Ajimu, the two most enigmatic characters

And a long etc. Zen isn't your type of normal you see everyday.

Yeah exactly. That's why it's my fav character
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:13   Link #4102
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Yeah exactly. That's why it's my fav character
Ajimu, we are ready for whatever you have planned for Zen
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:14   Link #4103
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Us know what they say Zenkichi, Medaka and Kikaijima, but what does it say Ajimu in this chapter?
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:18   Link #4104
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Ajimu, we are ready for whatever you have planned for Zen
I agree totally.
Come on Najim do whatever you want ...you have my totally support about this .. which is odd given that theoretically you're the bad girl

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Us know what they say Zenkichi, Medaka and Kikaijima, but what does it say Ajimu in this chapter?
Good question.
I' am curious about this to.
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:24   Link #4105
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I agree totally.
Come on Najim do whatever you want ...you have my totally support about this .. which is odd given that theoretically you're the bad girl.
Is she really the bad girl or is it Medaka ?
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:26   Link #4106
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^I honestly think medaka. I said Najimi according to the story so far, and how it started this arc.
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:27   Link #4107
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Ajimu healed Zen's sight he lost during the fight with Kumagawa

Medaka hit Zen and abused him verbally

You decide.
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:30   Link #4108
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^I choise number one.
And how come I get the feeling that if Zen said any objection to Najimi she would listen as opposed to Medaka?
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:32   Link #4109
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Ajimu, we are ready for whatever you have planned for Zen
Are you sure?

Medaka has Perses Mode...or I guess I should call it War God Mode.
Kouki was a delinquent in the past
Kikaijima was misguided and greedy....still greedy in fact.
Misogi is the worst Minus in existence

Zen doesn't really have any evil qualities. He's a blank slate....or maybe a walking bottle of pent up frustration and inferiority that's about to burst and overflow.

And Ajimu....with the quadrillion powers, simultaneous feelings of superiority and inferiority, who referenced the manga from inside itself (re-starting the Flask Plan when Medaka graduates and the manga is over)

I'm not doubting anything she can do. She sees herself as "beyond good and evil" and just does what she wants. And it looks like she wants to turn Zenkichi against Medaka.

And even if she doesn't want to, it looks like he might
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:32   Link #4110
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The only thing that we really know that Ajimu is evil for right now is that she wants to carry out the flask plan. We don't really know much beyond that...




and also Perseus mode=War God Mode
Mars=Altered god mode
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:37   Link #4111
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I wonder how fast tvtropes and the wiki will be edited
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:43   Link #4112
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But does Medaka really care for other people ? Does she really care about people feeling ? Is Medaka really better than Ajimu ?
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:47   Link #4113
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But does Medaka really care for other people ? Does she really care about people feeling ? Is Medaka really better than Ajimu ?
Yes.

>:3 She's the hero, what do you expect?
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:50   Link #4114
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But does Medaka really care for other people ? Does she really care about people feeling ? Is Medaka really better than Ajimu ?
To tell you the true I beginning to think tha Najimi really care ,even if she see everyone as trash in reality she concerned about people.
I mean look what the 5 candidates said or Najimi behaves.
But I could be wrong though.
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Old 2011-09-25, 12:57   Link #4115
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Yes.

>:3 She's the hero, what do you expect?
The hero? More like the focal point for why the main character has been struggling this far. Poor Zen doesn't deserve such abuse.
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Old 2011-09-25, 13:01   Link #4116
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Yes.

>:3 She's the hero, what do you expect?
Or maybe she's a godess who think she has an important mission which is to save people. But it doesn't mean she care about their feeling. It's her duty. That's all. She doesn't care about the rest.

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To tell you the true I beginning to think tha Najimi really care ,even if she see everyone as trash in reality she concerned about people.
I mean look what the 5 candidates said or Najimi behaves.
But I could be wrong though.
Yes, maybe she really care about them. She see herself as a godess and think Medaka is wrong. And it doesn't mean she's really the bad girl here.
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Old 2011-09-25, 13:04   Link #4117
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The hero? More like the focal point for why the main character has been struggling this far. Poor Zen doesn't deserve such abuse.
Abuse? THey've been childhood friends since they were two! So it's only natural to snap your friend out of it if they're acting childish! Medaka care's deeply for Zen, and it's not completely unnatural for friends to have a quarrel every once in a while. And I never once thought of Zen as the 'main' character, if anything, Medaka and Zen are equally important. But to say that Medaka is 'abusing' Zenkichi and has traumatized his life is complete nonsense.
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Old 2011-09-25, 13:15   Link #4118
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can someone translate what Medaka said after she hit Zenkichi.....or what Ajimu was saying to the 5 of them?
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Old 2011-09-25, 13:19   Link #4119
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^Here.
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Spoiler for Medaka Mini ramble:
I know I already said but ...
I'm curious to what Najimi said O_O

Beacuse it seems pretty damn important.
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Old 2011-09-25, 13:26   Link #4120
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Abuse? THey've been childhood friends since they were two! So it's only natural to snap your friend out of it if they're acting childish! Medaka care's deeply for Zen, and it's not completely unnatural for friends to have a quarrel every once in a while. And I never once thought of Zen as the 'main' character, if anything, Medaka and Zen are equally important. But to say that Medaka is 'abusing' Zenkichi and has traumatized his life is complete nonsense.
It's not only about hiting him but what she said to him and the glance she gave him. But as you said, maybe it's because Zen is the person she cares the most or the only person she really cares. That would explain why she's overreacting. It's not something she's used too.

On the other hand, maybe it's too much for Zen and Ajimu is using that to use him against Medaka. In the end, maybe it will strengthen their bond and maybe they will realize that they love each other.

Honestly, it will be probably that but I would like for Ajimu to not being the bad girl with evil attentoin but someone who want th best for everyone and is not agreed with Medaka.

Futhermore, if the next arc is as important as that it means that Zen is really important for Medaka and Medaka is really important for him. They just don't know it, they don't really know how the other feel anymore.

And I agree, Medaka is as important as Zen in this manga. It's Medaka Box not Zen Box
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