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Cloudedmind · 2013-09-20, 10:00

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

It would be pretty funny if Daneel gave his genes to Tamaki.

lmao That's exactly what I thought when I read that comment.

Puu · 2013-09-20, 10:23

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Having absolutely nobody with an actual name die in this end battle was a bit of a let down for me. The battle were good, but even I was looking at this and saying, "How many times are we just going to have these shots keep firing parallel barrages to each other? Guys! Space is a 3D battleground, you can move around more than this!"

I could swear someone from the Legend of the Galactic Heroes fandom explained why ships in space might do that rather than go 3D all over the place... (but trying to find it will be a pain) but I guess I'll just settle with, maybe they were just channeling Legend of the Galactic Heroes classic battles with battleships

Having said that, I wonder if they really sat down and decided to pay a lot of homages to various mech anime while making this....

Anh_Minh · 2013-09-20, 11:46

So what are ships supposed to do, dodge lasers?

It's space, there's no cover, no high ground. What is there to do but point your guns at the enemy and open fire? If you try to get fancy and move around, you just end up presenting a bigger profile and being unable to concentrate your firepower.

The only question is how close to each other you want your ships to be. Close enough to fire on the same target, not so close that near misses on one hit the other, or they collide, or the explosion of one damages the other.

dmaxzero · 2013-09-20, 12:14

Combat wise, last episode was a blast. (It was the last episode right?)
Izuru badass, he pulled through a whole ton of death flags. I enjoyed it a lot.

Puu · 2013-09-20, 12:15

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

So what are ships supposed to do, dodge lasers?

It's space, there's no cover, no high ground. What is there to do but point your guns at the enemy and open fire? If you try to get fancy and move around, you just end up presenting a bigger profile and being unable to concentrate your firepower.

The only question is how close to each other you want your ships to be. Close enough to fire on the same target, not so close that near misses on one hit the other, or they collide, or the explosion of one damages the other.

Randomly, this reminds me that unlike mechs (which are smaller), battleships are huge. I'm not entirely sure moving around is fuel-efficient with the kind of mass they're carrying...

Or maybe the bottomline is: huge battleships in space aren't really a good idea. Unless you've got force fields or something... then it'd be a battle of whose shield goes down faster...

Maybe...

Triple_R · 2013-09-20, 12:26

In real life... Battleships defend Aircraft carriers which launch/refuel/restock Fighter jets. Why not just use Fighter jets alone? Because they'll run out of fuel/armament without having an Aircraft carrier to restock them. Why have Battleships? To defend the Aircraft carriers (and attack large-scale enemy targets).

This finale of Majestic Prince works on a similar, though obviously much more flashy, basis.

Huge battleships defend Mecha carries which launch/refuel/restock Mechas. Those huge battleships also focus on large-scale enemy targets (the Gate, in this case). Why not just use Mechas alone? Because they'll run out of fuel/armament without having a Mecha carrier to restock them. One touch I really liked in this show is just how frequently they had a Team Rabbits mecha get fixed up and/or resupplied with weaponry. That justified the presence of these huge battleships/mecha carriers in a way that not every mecha show manages to do (*cough*Valvrave*cough*

).

Kyruga · 2013-09-20, 13:07

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

In real life... Battleships defend Aircraft carriers which launch/refuel/restock Fighter jets. Why not just use Fighter jets alone? Because they'll run out of fuel/armament without having an Aircraft carrier to restock them. Why have Battleships? To defend the Aircraft carriers (and attack large-scale enemy targets).

This finale of Majestic Prince works on a similar, though obviously much more flashy, basis.

Huge battleships defend Mecha carries which launch/refuel/restock Mechas. Those huge battleships also focus on large-scale enemy targets (the Gate, in this case). Why not just use Mechas alone? Because they'll run out of fuel/armament without having a Mecha carrier to restock them. One touch I really liked in this show is just how frequently they had a Team Rabbits mecha get fixed up and/or resupplied with weaponry. That justified the presence of these huge battleships/mecha carriers in a way that not every mecha show manages to do (*cough*Valvrave*cough* ).

You said everything i was thinking about this anime. Its because that than i stay striking soo much in this series and hope for more

Puu · 2013-09-20, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

In real life... Battleships defend Aircraft carriers which launch/refuel/restock Fighter jets. Why not just use Fighter jets alone? Because they'll run out of fuel/armament without having an Aircraft carrier to restock them. Why have Battleships? To defend the Aircraft carriers (and attack large-scale enemy targets).

This finale of Majestic Prince works on a similar, though obviously much more flashy, basis.

Huge battleships defend Mecha carries which launch/refuel/restock Mechas. Those huge battleships also focus on large-scale enemy targets (the Gate, in this case). Why not just use Mechas alone? Because they'll run out of fuel/armament without having a Mecha carrier to restock them. One touch I really liked in this show is just how frequently they had a Team Rabbits mecha get fixed up and/or resupplied with weaponry. That justified the presence of these huge battleships/mecha carriers in a way that not every mecha show manages to do (*cough*Valvrave*cough*

).

Hey! Valvrave mechs aren't even just mechs! Aren't they like... biological weapons at this point? Not that I'm ever re-watching it or seeing the second season to confirm....

Randomly, that reminds me. I loved seeing the "basic" mech for the finale. It's like almost saying, sometimes super upgrades aren't enough... you gotta do stuff the old fashioned way.

Or something...

(I hope more people look back to this show and watch it...)

whitecloud · 2013-09-20, 13:27

Izuru goes Xenogear......

Puu · 2013-09-20, 16:13

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Izuru goes Xenogear......

Weltall is kind of supernatural too in nature, isn't it? 8D

Spoiler for Xenogears spoiler...:

Is drawing better comics evil?

Gundamx · 2013-09-20, 19:08

next season last boss = Izuru

Irenesharda · 2013-09-20, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Benigmatica

Why would Prince Jiart would return... unless someone turned him into a cyborg!

But anyways, good job to Dogakobo for animating Majestic Prince!

It's the law of mecha anime. Unless you are absolutely sure he's dead, there's always a chance for a main character or villain to come back.

We saw from Klein that their alien mechs can take major damage, even being skewered, and still the pilot survives. And if Izuru survived that explosion, it wouldn't be too impossible if Jiart did too.

I don't know if he's alive or not, but if Jiart DOES show up again, I wouldn't be surprised.

Triple_R · 2013-09-20, 22:24

Jiart should totally come back wearing a Char Aznable-esque mask. That would be very cool.

KleenexGhost · 2013-09-20, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

Jiart should totally come back wearing a Char Aznable-esque mask. That would be very cool.

And then we find out that this is just one reincarnation cycle and that in a past life Teoria turned her back on Jiart in favor of her space dog named "Izurun"

n0m@n · 2013-09-20, 22:56

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Originally Posted by Gundamx

next season last boss = Izuru

Lol. That will be epic.

Seriously, that's what GSD should have done

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Irenesharda · 2013-09-20, 23:03

Izuru did look a little sinister there at that last shot. It really would be interesting if he were to become the villian in the next season. Like, what if Red 5, knowing it was going to "die" made a last unexpected push in the last moments of the battle and transferred into Izuru?

MJP seems the least likely too go that deep or dark, but it's interesting to think about.

Key Board · 2013-09-20, 23:05

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Originally Posted by Benigmatica

Why would Prince Jiart would return... unless someone turned him into a cyborg!

But anyways, good job to Dogakobo for animating Majestic Prince!

well.. Jiart was a really good villain

S2 without him would not be the same

VTHokiePride · 2013-09-20, 23:07

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Originally Posted by Irenesharda

Izuru did look a little sinister there at that last shot. It really would be interesting if he were to become the villian in the next season. Like, what if Red 5, knowing it was going to "die" made a last unexpected push in the last moments of the battle and transferred into Izuru?

MJP seems the least likely too go that deep or dark, but it's interesting to think about.

Agreed. MJP didn't bother killing off any major good character's besides Patrick and Randy. Even most of the Wulgaru Commanders survived the final battle except that yellow pilot.

KleenexGhost · 2013-09-20, 23:19

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Originally Posted by Irenesharda

Izuru did look a little sinister there at that last shot. It really would be interesting if he were to become the villian in the next season. Like, what if Red 5, knowing it was going to "die" made a last unexpected push in the last moments of the battle and transferred into Izuru?

MJP seems the least likely too go that deep or dark, but it's interesting to think about.

Do you think MJP would benefit from a Special Edition?

Blaat · 2013-09-21, 03:36

One day, a mecha writer will have the great idea to spend an half episode to tie in all the lose ends to create satisfactory ending and that day cannot come soon enough. I blame the original Gundam for this trend and not surprisingly Majestic Prince ending was a giant homage to that series ending.

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In real life... Battleships defend Aircraft carriers which launch/refuel/restock Fighter jets. Why not just use Fighter jets alone? Because they'll run out of fuel/armament without having an Aircraft carrier to restock them. Why have Battleships? To defend the Aircraft carriers (and attack large-scale enemy targets).

Destroyers and submarines defend aircraft carriers, battleships are no longer in use by modern navies.

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Triple_R Senior Member Author Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Age: 42	In real life... Battleships defend Aircraft carriers which launch/refuel/restock Fighter jets. Why not just use Fighter jets alone? Because they'll run out of fuel/armament without having an Aircraft carrier to restock them. Why have Battleships? To defend the Aircraft carriers (and attack large-scale enemy targets). This finale of Majestic Prince works on a similar, though obviously much more flashy, basis. Huge battleships defend Mecha carries which launch/refuel/restock Mechas. Those huge battleships also focus on large-scale enemy targets (the Gate, in this case). Why not just use Mechas alone? Because they'll run out of fuel/armament without having a Mecha carrier to restock them. One touch I really liked in this show is just how frequently they had a Team Rabbits mecha get fixed up and/or resupplied with weaponry. That justified the presence of these huge battleships/mecha carriers in a way that not every mecha show manages to do (coughValvravecough ). __________________

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Triple_R Senior Member Author Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Age: 42	Jiart should totally come back wearing a Char Aznable-esque mask. That would be very cool. __________________

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Irenesharda Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Chicago	Izuru did look a little sinister there at that last shot. It really would be interesting if he were to become the villian in the next season. Like, what if Red 5, knowing it was going to "die" made a last unexpected push in the last moments of the battle and transferred into Izuru? MJP seems the least likely too go that deep or dark, but it's interesting to think about. __________________ "Someone who cannot forgive lies or secrets, will never trust another." - Major Kyosuke Hyobu

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Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	So what are ships supposed to do, dodge lasers? It's space, there's no cover, no high ground. What is there to do but point your guns at the enemy and open fire? If you try to get fancy and move around, you just end up presenting a bigger profile and being unable to concentrate your firepower. The only question is how close to each other you want your ships to be. Close enough to fire on the same target, not so close that near misses on one hit the other, or they collide, or the explosion of one damages the other.

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dmaxzero Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Combat wise, last episode was a blast. (It was the last episode right?) Izuru badass, he pulled through a whole ton of death flags. I enjoyed it a lot.

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Gundamx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	next season last boss = Izuru