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FatPianoBoy · 2006-12-13, 21:09

I do believe AIR has now been ruined for me

Vexx · 2006-12-13, 22:02

Okay people.. .enough AIR spoilers, eh? Tag items from other series properly.

kingdom_elladrel · 2006-12-14, 00:33

I just had rewatch this episode again. Excellent work from Kyoto Animation. Another scene that I liked would be the scene where Makoto meets Amano for the first time and she helps her "remember" her name and Yuuichi's name. Nice music to go along with it as well. That was a very touching moment, along with what I already mentioned which is the wedding scene and also right up to Makoto's disappearance.

FatPianoBoy · 2006-12-14, 00:50

I said I wasn't going to worry about that final scene with Piro and Makoto on the hill, but it won't get out of my head. I don't want spoilers, I just want to know if that means something or nothing for later.
Seriously, it's driving me nuts.

VRMN · 2006-12-14, 01:00

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Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy

I said I wasn't going to worry about that final scene with Piro and Makoto on the hill, but it won't get out of my head. I don't want spoilers, I just want to know if that means something or nothing for later.
Seriously, it's driving me nuts.

Spoiler:

toxic_trance · 2006-12-14, 01:52

Watching this episode once more is fine...but if u watch the last 3 together, then u will fell the brilliance of KyoAni even more. I actually dared to do it, and man is my heart aching badly...

Just watching the last 3 is hurting so bad...I wonder if my heart is powerful to bear all 24 episodes in one go...

Scep · 2006-12-14, 02:20

Maybe i need to watch the whole series again. After I saw the reviews on this episode, I went and watched all 10 episodes at one go but i didnt exactly feel that emotional. Probably 10 episodes at a go is too much :/

orion · 2006-12-14, 11:13

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Originally Posted by Vexx

Okay people.. .enough AIR spoilers, eh? Tag items from other series properly.

But shouldn't Misuzu be treated the same as Spike from Cowboy Bebop? Like people should know by now a version of what happens. I mean even the fighting game has a version of her ending in it. So, if you click on a fight that she wins on YouTube, you'll see it.

Besides, her ending isn't spoiled by saying "poor Misuzu".

Spoiler:

Skane · 2006-12-14, 11:22

[Wry]
Or alternatively, it's because she's a church mouse.
[/Wry]

Narf.

FatPianoBoy · 2006-12-14, 11:26

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Originally Posted by orion

But shouldn't Misuzu be treated the same as Spike from Cowboy Bebop? Like people should know by now a version of what happens.

Except that Cowboy Bebop has been on local television in many places outside Japan and is almost ten years old

. If you haven't seen it by now, you're either very new to anime (and probably not hanging around here) or you just don't care. Still, I'd tag it if I ever felt the need to reference it.
AIR just ran... when? 2005? I just haven't had time to go back and watch it yet.

orion · 2006-12-14, 11:37

But Air the game has been around since September, 2000. The source material is 6 years old now.

However, I do apologize if I've potentially spoiled your future Air experience.

aliensporebomb · 2006-12-14, 14:50

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Originally Posted by Vexx

In the end, Yuuichi is surrounded by a street full of dead girls and lost dreams, he chugs the Jam and dies....

well, not really but the comedy is there to get you attached to the characters so when you learn the various truths or bad things happened .... tis a good evil.

I'm sorry, but that was so awful I had to laugh! Poor Yuuichi!

Ayu: "Uguuuuuu, chug the jam!"

Vexx · 2006-12-14, 16:43

True that at some point you have to reveal that Jesus dies on the cross (omg spoiled) ... but *many* viewers do not play the games and not infrequently are unaware that the anime was based on previous material.

The first I'd *ever* heard of AIR for example was when the series started airing and someone said I had to watch it because of the animation quality. So I was quite literally knocked out of my chair by each climactic moment. I did not find out about the game until partway through the series and it is the first japanese software game I've ever purchased. (I only own four now) At least outside of Japan, its the exception rather than the rule that a viewer has been exposed to or even heard of the source material for some of these shows.

@aliensporebomb: thanks for noticing my lame attempts at humor

Sorrow-K · 2006-12-14, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by orion

But Air the game has been around since September, 2000. The source material is 6 years old now.

However, I do apologize if I've potentially spoiled your future Air experience.

The Air game has never been translated, so, for a lot of people, the only access they have to the Air story is via the anime TV series and/or the anime movie, both of which came out just last year. So, it's unreasonable to expect that the events of Air are no longer spoilers, unlike Cowboy Bebop or Star Wars Ep 5, in that everyone who wants to see those already has by now.

Anacone · 2006-12-14, 17:25

And should we forget next generation? Whom everything is new and exciting. Should we spoil them about our knowledge because there's already something new in that moment. I don't think so instead we should courage them to look back in history.

Guardian Enzo · 2006-12-15, 22:08

Well again, I'm a Kanon virgin - no exposure to the material in any previous form. So for me, this wrapped up Makoto's arc pretty much perfectly - undeinably sad as hell, but a balanced view that didn't exclude the miracle that her very existence represented. It was plenty tragic enough in itself - any more overt tugging at the heartstrings would have been cloying.

Now, on with business - Ayu's finally back in the game...

Scribble · 2006-12-18, 13:29

What was especially bad about Makoto's death is that we're USED to her trying to harass Yuuichi EVERY night and failing. It's a routine that we're used to. Now she's dead, all of that is gone ;_;

qwerty4 · 2006-12-26, 07:25

this episode was nice. is had some touching scenes. especially the Amano bit.
y-y-yu-i-chi......YUICHI
the ending was beautiful and the animation helped....alot.

Icehawk · 2007-03-24, 01:15

As another total virgin to this series and story, I have to chime in now as I just finnished watching this 10th episode and I have to say that these last few episodes have been some of the most tearjerking bits of media I have seen in a long time, I came very close to shedding tears from Air but managed to hold out, but this I just couldnt hold back, the sadness it envoked while watching made me start thinking of my own tragic helpless losses in life (like our old family cat that died 4 years ago whom I shared most of my life with up till then and who also slowly deteriorated during her last few months) As such I could do nothing but submit to the eyeball showers.

Im glad I decided to wait for this series to finnish airing before watching it as I know I wouldnt be able to accept only seeing 1 ep per week of this show.

Rall)eon117X · 2007-04-03, 21:37

Yeah. This episode was great. I just finished the series today and this was the episode I rewatched after. Really was emotional. A couple tears escaped. This is the second time this has happened in an anime series for me! And both times were Key productions >.<". And I've watched quite a few series in the past 8 months or so.

Spoiler:

This episode was great. I loved it. And now after seeing the rest of the series, I'm really happy

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2006-12-13, 22:02	Link #142
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Okay people.. .enough AIR spoilers, eh? Tag items from other series properly. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-12-14, 00:33	Link #143
kingdom_elladrel Ayu-ism Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada	I just had rewatch this episode again. Excellent work from Kyoto Animation. Another scene that I liked would be the scene where Makoto meets Amano for the first time and she helps her "remember" her name and Yuuichi's name. Nice music to go along with it as well. That was a very touching moment, along with what I already mentioned which is the wedding scene and also right up to Makoto's disappearance. Last edited by kingdom_elladrel; 2006-12-14 at 00:34. Reason: Typo fixing

2006-12-14, 11:22	Link #149
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2006-12-14, 11:37	Link #151
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	But Air the game has been around since September, 2000. The source material is 6 years old now. However, I do apologize if I've potentially spoiled your future Air experience. __________________

2006-12-13, 21:09	Link #141
FatPianoBoy Dansa med oss Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky Age: 36	I do believe AIR has now been ruined for me

2006-12-14, 00:50	Link #144
FatPianoBoy Dansa med oss Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky Age: 36	I said I wasn't going to worry about that final scene with Piro and Makoto on the hill, but it won't get out of my head. I don't want spoilers, I just want to know if that means something or nothing for later. Seriously, it's driving me nuts.

2006-12-14, 01:52	Link #146
toxic_trance ~Anpan~ Artist Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Yuri Land Age: 37	Watching this episode once more is fine...but if u watch the last 3 together, then u will fell the brilliance of KyoAni even more. I actually dared to do it, and man is my heart aching badly... Just watching the last 3 is hurting so bad...I wonder if my heart is powerful to bear all 24 episodes in one go...

2006-12-14, 02:20	Link #147
Scep commands you to...! Artist Join Date: Apr 2006	Maybe i need to watch the whole series again. After I saw the reviews on this episode, I went and watched all 10 episodes at one go but i didnt exactly feel that emotional. Probably 10 episodes at a go is too much :/

2006-12-14, 16:43	Link #153
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	True that at some point you have to reveal that Jesus dies on the cross (omg spoiled) ... but many viewers do not play the games and not infrequently are unaware that the anime was based on previous material. The first I'd ever heard of AIR for example was when the series started airing and someone said I had to watch it because of the animation quality. So I was quite literally knocked out of my chair by each climactic moment. I did not find out about the game until partway through the series and it is the first japanese software game I've ever purchased. (I only own four now) At least outside of Japan, its the exception rather than the rule that a viewer has been exposed to or even heard of the source material for some of these shows. @aliensporebomb: thanks for noticing my lame attempts at humor __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-12-14, 17:25	Link #155
Anacone Lazy Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Finland Age: 44	And should we forget next generation? Whom everything is new and exciting. Should we spoil them about our knowledge because there's already something new in that moment. I don't think so instead we should courage them to look back in history.

2006-12-15, 22:08	Link #156
Guardian Enzo Seishu's Ace Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kobe, Japan	Well again, I'm a Kanon virgin - no exposure to the material in any previous form. So for me, this wrapped up Makoto's arc pretty much perfectly - undeinably sad as hell, but a balanced view that didn't exclude the miracle that her very existence represented. It was plenty tragic enough in itself - any more overt tugging at the heartstrings would have been cloying. Now, on with business - Ayu's finally back in the game...

2006-12-18, 13:29	Link #157
Scribble Sloth Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: London Age: 35	What was especially bad about Makoto's death is that we're USED to her trying to harass Yuuichi EVERY night and failing. It's a routine that we're used to. Now she's dead, all of that is gone ;_; __________________ lol

2006-12-26, 07:25	Link #158
qwerty4 Member Join Date: Oct 2006	this episode was nice. is had some touching scenes. especially the Amano bit. y-y-yu-i-chi......YUICHI the ending was beautiful and the animation helped....alot.

2007-03-24, 01:15	Link #159
Icehawk Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Age: 42	As another total virgin to this series and story, I have to chime in now as I just finnished watching this 10th episode and I have to say that these last few episodes have been some of the most tearjerking bits of media I have seen in a long time, I came very close to shedding tears from Air but managed to hold out, but this I just couldnt hold back, the sadness it envoked while watching made me start thinking of my own tragic helpless losses in life (like our old family cat that died 4 years ago whom I shared most of my life with up till then and who also slowly deteriorated during her last few months) As such I could do nothing but submit to the eyeball showers. Im glad I decided to wait for this series to finnish airing before watching it as I know I wouldnt be able to accept only seeing 1 ep per week of this show.

2007-04-03, 21:37	Link #160
Rall)eon117X Lightning Alchemist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada	Yeah. This episode was great. I just finished the series today and this was the episode I rewatched after. Really was emotional. A couple tears escaped. This is the second time this has happened in an anime series for me! And both times were Key productions >.<". And I've watched quite a few series in the past 8 months or so. Spoiler: First was Air with Misuzu crying out for her mom in ep 11 and now this! This episode was great. I loved it. And now after seeing the rest of the series, I'm really happy .