Oda Nobuna no Yabou [Light Novel]

[Von Himmel]

Might I suggest to edit the first post to include the summary link? It seems that many people keep asking about it in almost every new pages...

[ReaperxKingx]

I certainly don't know what is up with the social group, Sleepy did something to his account again and I can't contact him to see what is up.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

I certainly don't know what is up with the social group, Sleepy did something to his account again and I can't contact him to see what is up.

I was able to join it two to three weeks ago. I have no idea why I was able to do so whilst others can't.

[coolextremity]

are you already a member of the group darthfanta?
because still the moderator for this group have not yet accepting my join request, it's been two weeks. are there problems in the group?

[justpassingby]

Originally Posted by Jandalman

As for what someone previously said, I aggree that Nobuna is getting too much love by both author and Saru.

Uhh, what? You are aware of the title of the LN, right?
The problem is that the way she was written does not sit well with me.

Spoiler for Bla Bla Bla:

1. She cries, a lot.
If the author's intention was to show how 'strong' and 'determined' Nobuna is when she recovers from her sadness, then he's doing a bad job. Because he uses this format... a lot.

2. Horny/Lewd
Her brain circuitry when she interpreted "Rabu Hoteru", "Intanettori" etc was supposed to be funny? Well if Nobuna is a likable 妃露淫 = ヒロイン = Heroine (this word play is not mine, as it came from 2ch btw), then may be I could tolerate her wanting to bone Yoshiharu when other people were busy fighting. Well it can't be help that they're the main characters.

3. Incompetence and Gullible
Nobuna can't even argue with Manmi Senchiyo when the latter said Nobuna did order the execution of Kanbei's younger sister when the false rumor of Kanbei defecting to Naoie was spreading. Goddamit. Then again, the author did wrote that Senchiyo could be a person of talents that resembled Juubei if she removes her air of unsociability (v8p281). I wonder if more and more hostile girls will be introduced to "resemble Juubei" in the future, including Juubei.......wait What?

And regarding Juubei. I mentioned this several times, and even if she's my favorite girl, I think she should've been punished when she moved Kazumasu from Ise to Osaka, just in case if Nobuna wanted to fight Honbyouji when the temple was going to go against Nobuna's Tenka Fubu with their own Tenka Fubyou (Spread the Cat Across the Land) . Nobuna wasn't prepared for war, but was willing to go all out when Yoshiharu chose to stay at Honbyouji that she forgot about Juubei's insubordination.
But at least Juubei's decision indirectly made Kazumasu joined the football game .

The cockblocking in vol 7 was probably the most retarded one. Juubei even punched Nobusumi to make him spilled out the information regarding Nobuna's whereabouts. That alone was a punishable crime.
Not to mention Juubei's act of leaving Kyou when she should be leading the reserve force in case if Asai-Asakura come attacking Hanbei at Mt Toragoze.
But thanks to the smart Kazumasu noticing there wasn't any contact from Kyou, she came leading her army to defend the mountain. Kazumasu and Juubei should work together if they want to rebel against Nobuna.

Every Nobuna's retainers, save for Juubei, knew that their lord is in love with Yoshiharu, so I don't see any reason for them to cover for Juubei if Nobuna wanted to punish her. Nobuna's failure to remove her rival eventhough she was willing to siege Honbyouji's girls made me wonder, if all the Oda, except for Mitsuhide, Hisahide, Kazumasu, and Hanbei were actually competent.

4. The Azuchi
Oh wait. This is the most retarded event in the books. To quote from Samurai Archive

Did he really believe himself a deity, as the contemporary observer Luis Frois recorded?

Well Nobuna said she wasn't planning to be one, but her plan of her idols betrayed her own thinking. So, what was she thinking?
Was I supposed to be awed by her, or was it supposed to be funny? Because it didn't work for me.

Whenever I involved myself in LN/anime where leadership is concerned, I couldn't help but to compare it to LOGH

Spoiler:

Before Kaiser Reinhard died, he said that his statue can only be built some years after he went to Valhalla (dead), and it should not be as pompous as the previous Emperors from the older dynasty.

Both Nobuna and Reinhard were aiming to destroy the old society/tradition, so that the people would be free. And then I realized I made a mistake when I tried to compare an ant to an elephant.

If there is one good thing to say about Nobuna, she did say of "getting all the fruits", just like Yoshiharu. Then again, this novel would end up becoming The Adventure of Yoshiharu and Nobuna Saving The Kumquat.

I am thankful for the author for writing Juubei the way she is. She doesn't need to take the pages time, but enough time taken to make me care. If she was this "ideal girlfriend" for the MC that the author had in mind, I may end up hating Juubei as well.
People might be hating Juubei when they read her endeavor of cockblocking her Master, but when you have someone like Nobuna as the female lead, it is a great mystery for me on why the author didn't send more and more girls to do the same as Juubei did....oh wait.

Now. To the main point. There is this one deluded guy from 2ch Juubei's thread that tried to spark the hope of NobunaxYoshiharuxJuubei End based on short stories from the GA Bunko Magazine. But I'm more interested in short stories concerning Kanbei vs Hanbei in Golf and Test of Courage (Kimo Dameshi). Have anyone read it? And will they be printed in book format?, because I don't want to tire my eyes from reading from my PC, and I don't own a smartphone :P.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by coolextremity

are you already a member of the group darthfanta?
because still the moderator for this group have not yet accepting my join request, it's been two weeks. are there problems in the group?

I got accepted.

[rantaid]

Allow me to butting in.

Let us wind the clock back to years when the word tsundere is the equivalent of cute girl with loads of potential.

But, upon reading Oda Nobuna translation and summary also watching the anime.... why do i feel that sooner or later the Monkey will ended up netorared from nobuna? Well... i don't mind with this direction. I love this, I Love it.

and.... reading from justpassingby writing...

allow me to quote it:

And regarding Juubei. I mentioned this several times, and even if she's my favorite girl, I think she should've been punished when she moved Kazumasu from Ise to Osaka, just in case if Nobuna wanted to fight Honbyouji when the temple was going to go against Nobuna's Tenka Fubu with their own Tenka Fubyou (Spread the Cat Across the Land) . Nobuna wasn't prepared for war, but was willing to go all out when Yoshiharu chose to stay at Honbyouji that she forgot about Juubei's insubordination.
But at least Juubei's decision made Kazumasu joined the football game .

i have to disagree. No. A general in the field is allowed to disobey his lord's order. Jubei did this for tactical maneuver. the Mori clan is known for their wealth and military power. Her action, were done for pre-emptive measure, hence does not disobey military law. Also, her act to not report it beforehand is according to rule of secrecy in warfare. I never seen any general did this correct method in Anime.

I just hope it ended with a good ending like School Days. it was the best romance anime i have ever watched. true story.

[justpassingby]

And I wasn't even talking about the Mori.

[rantaid]

Did not Akechi attempt to move Takigawa Kazumasu is motivated by Nobuna's attempt for Japan unification first ?

That is my opinion. seeing Osaka is in West Japan. we can conclude it as the preparation for the plan to subjugate the West area.

I don't think that Akechi decided to force march Takigawa Kazumazu after receiving the Monkey message, but it was done long before the nekomimi tribe event.

To send request for deployment because of misunderstanding the Monkey's Manly message seems implausible. to force march a whole army is not simple task, so Akechi must have done it even before the Monkey send a news of his 'intention' to be a Harem King. The author in his earlier chapter highly emphasizes details about national resource, rations, troops deployment and politics.

If not, why did not Nobuna focused her military campaign in Eastern Japan first, seeing it was closer to Owari and Mikawa (her ally, Ieyasu)? we have to admit the Takeda, the Uesugi and the Houjou are difficult enemies. So it is better to let those three rival clan destroy each other while Nobuna solidify her standing in West Japan to prepare against whoever left in East Japan. Did not Jubei was known for her simplistic yet effective tactics ?

I think that was Akechi Mitsuhide's original intention on sending deployment order to Takigawa Kazumasu. But.... after she received the Monkey Letter from Louise Frois (I am going to be a harem king), and this made her snapped.

[iqamores]

actually expected at least a legendary seminude fistfight between Takeda and saru, but that's impossible, is a brainiac saru, hopefully do some cardio, he need ran very fast. Takeda's sisters are included in the horse stud pack?

[chad001]

Originally Posted by rantaid

Allow me to butting in.

Let us wind the clock back to years when the word tsundere is the equivalent of cute girl with loads of potential.

But, upon reading Oda Nobuna translation and summary also watching the anime.... why do i feel that sooner or later the Monkey will ended up netorared from nobuna? Well... i don't mind with this direction. I love this, I Love it.

and.... reading from justpassingby writing...

allow me to quote it:



i have to disagree. No. A general in the field is allowed to disobey his lord's order. Jubei did this for tactical maneuver. the Mori clan is known for their wealth and military power. Her action, were done for pre-emptive measure, hence does not disobey military law. Also, her act to not report it beforehand is according to rule of secrecy in warfare. I never seen any general did this correct method in Anime.

I just hope it ended with a good ending like School Days. it was the best romance anime i have ever watched. true story.

Are we allow to censor other people's posts? Cause I at least, found the upper portion of that post offensive...

[rantaid]

Originally Posted by chad001

Are we allow to censor other people's posts? Cause I at least, found the upper portion of that post offensive...

because the word butt? sorry, i don't mean it as an obscene word. i just want to join conversation, and don't know the better phrase.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by chad001

Are we allow to censor other people's posts? Cause I at least, found the upper portion of that post offensive...

There's nothing wrong with his post.

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by darthfanta

There's nothing wrong with his post.

Darth, you know Chad is very sensitive to the word NTR.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Darth, you know Chad is very sensitive to the word NTR.

Well he better get used to it. A lot of protagonists are getting netorared recently.

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by darthfanta

Well he better get used to it. A lot of protagonists are getting netorared recently.

I like Japanese culture, but there is a clear line in reading for me so my advice to Chad, don't think about and don't look for it then you'll be fine.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

I like Japanese culture, but there is a clear line in reading for me so my advice to Chad, don't think about and don't look for it then you'll be fine.

Well, there's two other series where you and I both read that has NTR right now.

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by darthfanta

Well, there's two other series where you and I both read that has NTR right now.

True, but I don't read them and I ignore their existence. That is someone's fetish not mine, mine is Lingerie from Victoria Secret so I am focus there.

[chad001]

Originally Posted by darthfanta

Well, there's two other series where you and I both read that has NTR right now.

Do I even want to know? Actually, yes, so I can purge myself of them...

[Undertaker]

NTR, that a nice three little letter......


can't believe that's the first comment I made coming back to this thread after a few weeks...