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Duo Maxwell · 2012-01-10, 15:34

Pantheon shouldn't go jungle.

I build him tanky for sustained dmg instead of burst, seeing his cooldown is low so it's kinda a waste not to take advantage of. Gunblade used to work pretty well on him, don't know how did the nerf affect him, though.

Eisdrache · 2012-01-10, 17:51

Wards? I just ult into your lane.

That said Pantheon is one of the more exotic junglers.

DragoonKain3 · 2012-01-11, 02:23

Pantheon can jungle, but he's VERY dependent on successful ganks more than almost any other jungle I know of.

Reason for this is because his AoE has a very bad base damage against non-champs (like 150 or something at level 5), making it a bad choice to level it. And with the new jungle favouring AoE for clearing, and Pantheon not possessing any AD or AS steroid to help him farm the jungle... yeah you can imagine how slow he is.

As such, you take his Spear Shot and with your Aegis, your ganks are very scary (especially at lvl 4 when you get certain death). Gotta make every gank count though, because if it fails or your laners continually push their lanes, you can't fall back on farming jungle.

Kafriel · 2012-01-12, 02:45

Tried Panth jungle, can't say it was as fast as I'd like...thanks for the input guys.

Jax spotlight is out, now half his R became his passive, no more free health, and his R active gives AD/AP. Also counter strike became an active buff of 100% dodge, the joy!

P.S: What's the lunar revel with all the theme skins?

Kotohono · 2012-01-12, 02:58

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Originally Posted by Kafriel

P.S: What's the lunar revel with all the theme skins?

By the timing, names of skins, and being an "Ionian" holiday originally, I'd say it's for Chinese new years, maybe?

DragoonKain3 · 2012-01-12, 03:16

More interested in the new champ. Don't know anything but her name (Sejuani, the Winter's Claw), but her being one of Ashe's sisters, it would be bound to be interesting.

Kafriel · 2012-01-12, 05:23

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

More interested in the new champ. Don't know anything but her name (Sejuani, the Winter's Claw), but her being one of Ashe's sisters, it would be bound to be interesting.

Never heard of her till you mentioned it...

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By the timing, names of skins, and being an "Ionian" holiday originally, I'd say it's for Chinese new years, maybe?

So it would seem...Lee Sin's skin is awesome

DragoonKain3 · 2012-01-12, 11:05

Rumoured abilities for Sejuani from http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...hlight=sejuani

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Passive: Sejuani's basic attacks apply Frost, reducing enemy Movement Speed by 10% for 3 seconds.
> ==============================================
> Arctic Assault (Q)：
> Sejuani charges forward, dealing 60/90/130/170/210 (+0.4) magic damage and applying Frost to enemies. Sejuani stops upon colliding with an enemy champion.
> cost 70/80/90/100/110 Mana
> cooldown 19/17/15/13/11
> range 700.0
> ==============================================
> Northern Winds (W)：
> Sejuani summons an arctic storm around her for 5/5/5/5/5 seconds, dealing 12/18/24/30/36 (+0.1) (+ [1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2% of maximum Health]) magic damage each second to nearby enemies.
> Damage is increased by 50/50/50/50/50% against enemies affected by Frost or Permafrost ( magic damage per second).
> cost 40/40/40/40/40 Mana
> cooldown 10/10/10/10/10
> ==============================================
> Permafrost (E)：
> Sejuani converts Frost on nearby enemies to Permafrost, dealing 60/110/160/210/260 (+0.5) magic damage and increasing the Movement Speed reduction to 30/40/50/60/70% for 3/3/3/3/3 seconds.
> cost 55/55/55/55/55 Mana
> cooldown 11/11/11/11/11
> ==============================================
> Glacial Prison (R)：
> Sejuani throws her weapon, stunning the first enemy champion hit for 2/2/2 seconds and all other nearby enemies for 1/1/1 second. All affected targets take 150/250/350 (+0.8) magic damage and are affected by Frost.
> cost 100/100/100 Mana
> cooldown 150/130/110

Champion Info:

tag：tank
range：125
move speed：315
armor base：17.5 (+3.5 per level)
mana base：220 (+40 per level)
mana regen：1.29 (+0.09 per level) (Appears to be shown as per second instead of per 5)
hp regen：1.45 (+0.17 per level) (Appears to be shown as per second instead of per 5)
magic resist：30 (+1.25 per level)
hp base：450 (+85 per level)
attack：54 (+3.5 per level)

If this is true, then looks to be another tank that's capable of jungling.

Skane · 2012-01-12, 11:27

So Leona finally has a fellow tank buddy to gossip with.

Hot and cold dualities too.

Heh.

Kafriel · 2012-01-12, 11:30

Got a range on that ultimate? Doesn't look good overall, she's got dash and slow but no shield, regen or buff to be considered tank or even support...

Speaking of Leona, I've come to like her more and more. Performs very well in dominion and can really stack damage when paired with champs who can get in a certain hit. Leona&Panth is rocking this week

KBTKaiser · 2012-01-12, 12:08

Anivia suddenly got alot scarier...that's alot more chances to use her icicle.

DragoonKain3 · 2012-01-12, 12:39

Actually, AFAIK, double damage frostbite only works on chill effects done by Anivia herself. It's kinda sad she doesn't combo off Ashe or Nunu now, and highly unlikely she'd combo with Sejuani either.

Eisdrache · 2012-01-12, 23:00

DragoonKain is correct.

Anyway Sejuani has a fairly boring skillset but it looks godly for ganking.

Duo Maxwell · 2012-01-12, 23:25

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

Actually, AFAIK, double damage frostbite only works on chill effects done by Anivia herself. It's kinda sad she doesn't combo off Ashe or Nunu now, and highly unlikely she'd combo with Sejuani either.

I thought it worked on Ashe's frozen arrow? Did they change it or something?

DragoonKain3 · 2012-01-17, 00:47

Patch notes out.

Skarner got kicked in the nuts. True he was borderline OP, but mana cost on Q almost to release Skarner? Even a 15/17/19/21/23 would've been acceptable, but at almost double mana, he might go to be a blue hog. Either that or he'd have to max W first.

Rammus is a slap in the wrist. Rank dbc to 2 if you really miss the damage.

Warwick got slightly buffed, but single target spells not proccing red anymore hurts his pre-6 ganks. So not net change?

Might probably need to relearn Jarvan. Mana cost is part of the reason why I didn't jungle him. Jax looks to be a decent jungler as well, with built-in AS and minion immunity for 1.5s. Might also need to buy Volibear.

Otherwise, looks like NMST was busy over the holidays lol.

No Shen buffs though. Phooey, even though it's already up in PBE. >_>

Kafriel · 2012-01-17, 02:52

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Skarner got kicked in the nuts

You can say that again...I believe this is an intricate nerf plot for the Sejuani patch, since both are slow-to-win champions, Riot should cut down on that mana cost in the next patch again.
I like the Jarvan buff, always thought he was a bit short on mana.

Kotohono · 2012-01-17, 04:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kafriel

You can say that again...I believe this is an intricate nerf plot for the Sejuani patch, since both are slow-to-win champions, Riot should cut down on that mana cost in the next patch again.
I like the Jarvan buff, always thought he was a bit short on mana.

yea now the mana is is back a mere -2 at all ranks compared to release costs which is probably too much...(I can live with Ult CD changes and slightly less slowing).

-Sho- · 2012-01-18, 08:34

Dissapoint for the new jax. His R suck compared to before. Well he makes more damage but he is weaker too. Now it's better to play him offtank like the others....

Kafriel · 2012-01-18, 08:57

He is better now. Pre-patch Jax had everything ready for him, HP from passive, AS and MR from R and armor from the only boots he ever got. Now, people will have to actually bother thinking before building him, and his new E is very jungle-friendly...new R helps with ganks too.

-Sho- · 2012-01-18, 14:48

Imo , i prefer the old jax who stunned like every 3-5s.

2012-01-10, 15:34	Link #1721
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	Pantheon shouldn't go jungle. I build him tanky for sustained dmg instead of burst, seeing his cooldown is low so it's kinda a waste not to take advantage of. Gunblade used to work pretty well on him, don't know how did the nerf affect him, though. __________________

2012-01-11, 02:23	Link #1723
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	Pantheon can jungle, but he's VERY dependent on successful ganks more than almost any other jungle I know of. Reason for this is because his AoE has a very bad base damage against non-champs (like 150 or something at level 5), making it a bad choice to level it. And with the new jungle favouring AoE for clearing, and Pantheon not possessing any AD or AS steroid to help him farm the jungle... yeah you can imagine how slow he is. As such, you take his Spear Shot and with your Aegis, your ganks are very scary (especially at lvl 4 when you get certain death). Gotta make every gank count though, because if it fails or your laners continually push their lanes, you can't fall back on farming jungle. __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2012-01-12, 02:45	Link #1724
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	Tried Panth jungle, can't say it was as fast as I'd like...thanks for the input guys. Jax spotlight is out, now half his R became his passive, no more free health, and his R active gives AD/AP. Also counter strike became an active buff of 100% dodge, the joy! <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/B18qApcVCRg">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> P.S: What's the lunar revel with all the theme skins?

2012-01-12, 03:16	Link #1726
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	More interested in the new champ. Don't know anything but her name (Sejuani, the Winter's Claw), but her being one of Ashe's sisters, it would be bound to be interesting. __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2012-01-12, 11:27	Link #1729
Skane Anime Snark Join Date: May 2006 Location: Singapore Age: 41	So Leona finally has a fellow tank buddy to gossip with. Hot and cold dualities too. Heh. __________________ Hearthstone Battletag: Skane#1425 [Can't GIF This], [Jail's House of Rock], [Kanon In The Snow], [She Ain't Dead Yet... She's In Quantum], [She Stabs] Founder of "The Cult of Psycho-Moe", Member of "ARIA the Social Group" & the "Belkan Saint Church".

2012-01-10, 17:51	Link #1722
Eisdrache Part-time misanthrope Join Date: Mar 2007	Wards? I just ult into your lane. That said Pantheon is one of the more exotic junglers.

2012-01-12, 11:30	Link #1730
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	Got a range on that ultimate? Doesn't look good overall, she's got dash and slow but no shield, regen or buff to be considered tank or even support... Speaking of Leona, I've come to like her more and more. Performs very well in dominion and can really stack damage when paired with champs who can get in a certain hit. Leona&Panth is rocking this week

2012-01-12, 12:08	Link #1731
KBTKaiser Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 38	Anivia suddenly got alot scarier...that's alot more chances to use her icicle.

2012-01-12, 12:39	Link #1732
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	Actually, AFAIK, double damage frostbite only works on chill effects done by Anivia herself. It's kinda sad she doesn't combo off Ashe or Nunu now, and highly unlikely she'd combo with Sejuani either. __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2012-01-12, 23:00	Link #1733
Eisdrache Part-time misanthrope Join Date: Mar 2007	DragoonKain is correct. Anyway Sejuani has a fairly boring skillset but it looks godly for ganking.

2012-01-17, 00:47	Link #1735
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	Patch notes out. Skarner got kicked in the nuts. True he was borderline OP, but mana cost on Q almost to release Skarner? Even a 15/17/19/21/23 would've been acceptable, but at almost double mana, he might go to be a blue hog. Either that or he'd have to max W first. Rammus is a slap in the wrist. Rank dbc to 2 if you really miss the damage. Warwick got slightly buffed, but single target spells not proccing red anymore hurts his pre-6 ganks. So not net change? Might probably need to relearn Jarvan. Mana cost is part of the reason why I didn't jungle him. Jax looks to be a decent jungler as well, with built-in AS and minion immunity for 1.5s. Might also need to buy Volibear. Otherwise, looks like NMST was busy over the holidays lol. No Shen buffs though. Phooey, even though it's already up in PBE. >_> __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2012-01-18, 08:34	Link #1738
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	Dissapoint for the new jax. His R suck compared to before. Well he makes more damage but he is weaker too. Now it's better to play him offtank like the others....

2012-01-18, 08:57	Link #1739
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	He is better now. Pre-patch Jax had everything ready for him, HP from passive, AS and MR from R and armor from the only boots he ever got. Now, people will have to actually bother thinking before building him, and his new E is very jungle-friendly...new R helps with ganks too.

2012-01-18, 14:48	Link #1740
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	Imo , i prefer the old jax who stunned like every 3-5s.