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Avrorrange · 2012-10-16, 02:48

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Originally Posted by Mars Mode

And later durring the kissing scene the sword descibes itself as ¨[steel] . And passes knowledge to Ena which she passes to Godou about their origins.

Steel doesn't mean he's a heretic god. Susanoo is also a god of steel, but he's a FORMER heretic god. Steel is just an attribute.

Mars Mode · 2012-10-16, 02:51

No no.

Spoiler for Campione Vol 7 ch 5:

Ama no murakumo is a god on his own which also accompanies Susanoo

Phoenix221186 · 2012-10-16, 02:53

ama murakumo its like the brothers of son wokung they are subordinate gods . they are gods but follow a more powerful one and also can be used as weapons by them or like in son wokung's case they become part of him =/

i think that would be a better way to understand it right??

Mars Mode · 2012-10-16, 02:55

But he is also a God on his own. Which is the reason why he can act freely.

Avrorrange · 2012-10-16, 03:02

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Originally Posted by Mars Mode

But he is also a God on his own. Which is the reason why he can act freely.

That definition can be interpreted in a different number of ways. Sun Wukong's bros, by definition, can also be gods on their own. They were genuine gods before they even became his bros. Zhu Bajie for example, was the Field Marshal of Heaven and Commander in Chief of 100,000 gods.The other brother was a general in service of Heaven.

Mars Mode · 2012-10-16, 03:07

If you say they could act freely then it is diferent. They were dependent of the divine power of Sun Wukong. And Ama no Murakumo no Tsurugi (this name is long I will use AnMnT from here on out if you dont mind) started trashing and taking control of Ena without his masters permission.

Avrorrange · 2012-10-16, 03:09

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Originally Posted by Mars Mode

If you say they could act freely then it is diferent. They were dependent of the divine power of Sun Wukong. And Ama no Murakumo no Tsurugi (this name is long I will use AnMnT from here on out if you dont mind) started trashing and taking control of Ena without his masters permission.

Being a subordinate doesn't mean he can't have a certain degree of freedom. Sun Wukong's brothers joke about Sun Wukong in front of him.Another fact you have to notice is that Susanoo didn't order him to NOT to taking control of Ena.

kuroishinigami · 2012-10-16, 03:24

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Originally Posted by darthfanta

That's only because Lao Hao is a genius at martial arts and magic.Also, I can't see how Lao Hao only having 2 authorities is a legitimate excuse to say that god-farming doesn't work. He would get stronger regardless if he kills more gods.And in addition to that Lao Hao had two centuries of experience to perfect his skill. Godou only has a number of years at most before he faces the strongest steel. The quickest way to level up is to kill as many heretic gods as possible.

I'm not saying it doesn't work and I agree that it might be the fastest way, but making Godou like that will make his character overlap with Voban

. I was only giving Luo Cuilian as an example that there is another way to get stronger beside god-farming. Like I said, considering Godou is suppose to be a genius at lady-killing, maybe he should start collecting girls with various useful ability that complement each other instead to get stronger, and maybe learn one or two trick from grandpa to control said harem

Avrorrange · 2012-10-16, 03:36

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Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

I'm not saying it doesn't work and I agree that it might be the fastest way, but making Godou like that will make his character overlap with Voban

. I was only giving Luo Cuilian as an example that there is another way to get stronger beside god-farming. Like I said, considering Godou is suppose to be a genius at lady-killing, maybe he should start collecting girls with various useful ability that complement each other instead to get stronger, and maybe learn one or two trick from grandpa to control said harem

By the way, I forgot to mention, Lao Hao actually has

Spoiler for vol 12:

, but that is irrelevant.

Mars Mode · 2012-10-16, 03:38

Yes my example was bad. What I mean is he does not dependent on the divine power of Susanoo. And he can act freely. So he is a God who choose to follow Susanoo. While a Subordinate God depends on the divine power of his summoner. Examples Sun Wukong. Circe.

Yes we know he has more (or at least i think we know), because someone spoiled this over here. but was kind enough to not spoil us more to taste it better when the time comes.

But she is just that crazy, having already 200 years of experience she can hold her own just with two authorities not that she needs more.

Avrorrange · 2012-10-16, 03:41

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Originally Posted by Mars Mode

Yes my example was bad. What I mean is he does not dependent on the divine power of Susanoo. And he can act freely. So he is a God who choose to follow Susanoo. While a Subordinate God depends on the divine power of his summoner. Examples Sun Wukong. Circe.

He might actually depend on the divine power of Susanoo. No one knows whether Susanoo supplies him magic or not. That role may have been taken over by Godou after he got k.oed.When using techniques from the Kusanagi sword, it drains both the Kusanagis.It is stated that Godou's divine power supply is as abundant as a heretic god's. Yuri was able to block

Spoiler for vol 13:

. Guess how she gets that power

from

Spoiler for vol 13:

?

Mars Mode · 2012-10-16, 03:53

Spoiler for Campione Vol 5 Ch 7:

Spoiler for Campione Vol 5 Epilogue:

He is a partner, he has never been an autorithy. He gained ego when he fought Godou. Before he was of Susanoo now he is free, or who knows the novel has not explained this good enough

Youth maybe? Because there is an ilustration of Godou kissing Yuri in the novel, so my guess is Youth some twisted application of Youth.

Avrorrange · 2012-10-16, 03:55

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Originally Posted by Mars Mode

Spoiler for Campione Vol 5 Ch 7:

Spoiler for Campione Vol 5 Epilogue:

He is a partner, he has never been an autorithy. He gained ego when he fought Godou. Before he was of Susanoo now he is free, or who knows the novel has not explained this good enough

Well, there were doubts from other characters as to whether he is a genuine authority.They weren't quite sure what exactly he is.To be honest though, it would have been awesome as hell if only the Kusanagi sword was a girl--RESTIA!RESTIA !RESTIA! Too bad he's a guy....

Mars Mode · 2012-10-16, 04:41

We have the rights to dream.

Spoiler for Vol 13:

Phoenix221186 · 2012-10-16, 04:47

and then both swords fighting over godou?? xD

kusanagi sword : ill help my partner !!
circe authority : no ill help godou sama .. ( all lovey dovey .. )

Avrorrange · 2012-10-16, 04:57

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Originally Posted by Phoenix221186

and then both swords fighting over godou?? xD

kusanagi sword : ill help my partner !!
circe authority : no ill help godou sama .. ( all lovey dovey .. )

Not sure if there really would be a white sword, nor if it is from Circe's authority, BUT, hope it can actually turn into a human form, preferably a loli human form--EST!EST!EST!

kokolores · 2012-10-16, 08:00

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Originally Posted by Phoenix221186

if you wanna put it that way ... then its not the sword .. is the girls ..
without the girls .. he will be dead by now ... they are either retrieving his body when he dies .. or giving him knowledge .. so its not the sword .. its the girls ..

without the girls he will be dead for a long time by now

The girls are Godou's true power. Salvatore is a godly swordsman, Luo Hao a godly martial artist and Godou a godly womanizer. Godou without girls is like Salvatore without weapons.

GundamFan · 2012-10-16, 16:28

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Originally Posted by Phoenix221186

and then both swords fighting over godou?? xD

kusanagi sword : ill help my partner !!
circe authority : no ill help godou sama .. ( all lovey dovey .. )

The kusanagi sword was referred to as being a he. So hopefully if Circe's power turns out to be a talking white sword he'll get a little attention maybe Excalibur might turn out to be female too. That would be funny.

Avrorrange · 2012-10-16, 16:37

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Originally Posted by GundamFan

The kusanagi sword was referred to as being a he. So hopefully if Circe's power turns out to be a talking white sword he'll get a little attention maybe Excalibur might turn out to be female too. That would be funny.

Excalibur can't talk. It doesn't have a life of it's own.

Spoiler for vol 10:

bludvein · 2012-10-16, 16:41

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Originally Posted by darthfanta

Excalibur can't talk. It doesn't have a life of it's own.

Spoiler for vol 10:

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2012-10-16, 02:51	Link #4662
Mars Mode Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	No no. Spoiler for Campione Vol 7 ch 5: "The divine clan of heretical steel originated as outsiders, and Ama no Murakumo no Tsurugi is one of them. Ena will transfer as much as possible all sorts of information known about the Great Sage. Yuri, let us tell His Majesty together, for the sake of our husband, let us offer the spell words to slice gods apart!" Ama no murakumo is a god on his own which also accompanies Susanoo

2012-10-16, 02:53	Link #4663
Phoenix221186 Butt Theory Creator xD Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: california	ama murakumo its like the brothers of son wokung they are subordinate gods . they are gods but follow a more powerful one and also can be used as weapons by them or like in son wokung's case they become part of him =/ i think that would be a better way to understand it right?? __________________ I Hate Loneliness, But It Loves Me

2012-10-16, 03:53	Link #4672
Mars Mode Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	Spoiler for Campione Vol 5 Ch 7: "Godou-san, it has not ended yet! Ama no Murakumo no Tsurugi intends to continue fighting!" Spoiler for Campione Vol 5 Epilogue: "Ena-san seems to think so, but it hasn't been confirmed yet. After that commotion, Ama no Murakumo no Tsurugi still harbors great divine power, but the previous user Ena-san can no longer use it. Neither can she send it back to the original owner—the Old One. So that is the situation now." Ama no Murakumo no Tsurugi. Though this sword contained the deity of the conquering god, it was also a subordinate god to Susanoo. "Due to Ena's divine possession losing control, Ama no Murakumo no Tsurugi gained the status of an independent god, so Kusanagi-san who defeated it has usurped the god's authority... That could be what happened, maybe." He is a partner, he has never been an autorithy. He gained ego when he fought Godou. Before he was of Susanoo now he is free, or who knows the novel has not explained this good enough Youth maybe? Because there is an ilustration of Godou kissing Yuri in the novel, so my guess is Youth some twisted application of Youth.

2012-10-16, 04:41	Link #4674
Mars Mode Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	We have the rights to dream. Spoiler for Vol 13: His second sword could be one though

2012-10-16, 04:47	Link #4675
Phoenix221186 Butt Theory Creator xD Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: california	and then both swords fighting over godou?? xD kusanagi sword : ill help my partner !! circe authority : no ill help godou sama .. ( all lovey dovey .. ) __________________ I Hate Loneliness, But It Loves Me

2012-10-16, 02:55	Link #4664
Mars Mode Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	But he is also a God on his own. Which is the reason why he can act freely.

2012-10-16, 03:07	Link #4666
Mars Mode Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	If you say they could act freely then it is diferent. They were dependent of the divine power of Sun Wukong. And Ama no Murakumo no Tsurugi (this name is long I will use AnMnT from here on out if you dont mind) started trashing and taking control of Ena without his masters permission.

2012-10-16, 03:38	Link #4670
Mars Mode Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	Yes my example was bad. What I mean is he does not dependent on the divine power of Susanoo. And he can act freely. So he is a God who choose to follow Susanoo. While a Subordinate God depends on the divine power of his summoner. Examples Sun Wukong. Circe. Yes we know he has more (or at least i think we know), because someone spoiled this over here. but was kind enough to not spoil us more to taste it better when the time comes. But she is just that crazy, having already 200 years of experience she can hold her own just with two authorities not that she needs more.