Shakugan no Shana II - Episode 8 Discussion / Poll

[Tokkan]

Yuri is not an anime original character, he and this entire 2-episode arc are from Shakugan no Shana S.

[Kinny Riddle]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

Yuri is not an anime original character, he and this entire 2-episode arc are from Shakugan no Shana S.

Thanks for the correction. I'll have to edit my post accordingly.

[X10A_Freedom]

This is definately 2 episodes overdue, and it's still kind of drag to me because it's a flashback rather than any development of "current" events.

And yes, this comes from a person who likes ARIA.

[minhtam1638]

Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

That Yuri boy (No! I don't mean he's a "yuri" fanboy, I mean "Yuri" as in his Slavic-sounding name. lol ) who became Flame Haze definitely throws my theory that Crimson Lords only make contracts with people with a large PoE amount out of the window. Oh well, maybe Takahashi has created a plothole for himself.

Though it's still consistent with Crimson Lords seeking out humans who have a grudge with Denizens, this leads to undesirable side-effects like the Flame Haze's lingering human emotions, as seen with Yuri's mood. This is the main reason why Alastor and Wilhelmina raised Shana without her having any grudge against anything.

Personally, I don't see how Takahashi created a plot hole for himself. Technically, Crimson Lords can make contracts with anybody. The only reason why Alastor picked Shana is because of his experiences with the deaths of many Flame Hazes before Shana.

Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

Spoiler for Off-topic stuff about Hino Satoshi (Yuji):

Speaking of yaoi and "gayness" (no offense intended to anyone), I find it very amusing after finding out that Hino Satoshi (Yuji) is now the voice of the feminine and "queer" ninja Sai in that ever popular Shounen cash-cow series Naruto, saying stuff like "Does Naruto have a dick?"

Hino's no stranger when it comes to flirtatious characters, as seen in his role as Saito in ZnT, but being flirtatious while keeping a "wimpy" and feminine, almost "Yuji-like" demeanor is another level for Hino.

Spoiler for You know:

I was just watching Naruto today, and I keep imagining Yuji being hated by the likes of Naruto and Sakura. Personally, that doesn't make any sense, really...

Maybe I'm better off imagining Saito being hated.

[Deathkillz]

Spoiler:

this wasnt a bad ep at all

at last a decent action scene and + margery to boot ^^

im kinda annoyed to see that the flashback will span on for another ep but at least this is way better than yiuji's harem

so...why did sydonay let her go? dam happy he did though cause we got to see her purificating ^^

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for Episode 9 preview summary:

Milestone of Sadness

In New York, where the scent of the previous great battle still lingered, Margery was at the Empire State Building.
Her opponent was the "Sentetsu no Hora (Cave of Placed Penetration?) Anna Berg.
But the flame bullets she shoots from the burning blue toga she wears does not seem to hit Anna Berg at all.
At that moment, hooked claws rip apart the blue toga.
It was Sydonay's sneak attack.
In this absolute crisis, the amateur flame haze, Chisei no Hikite (Pulling Hand of Mountain Forces?), Yuri comes running in......

Margery was talking about her past.
But in the middle, she stops and throws a question at Satou and Tanaka.
"If you guys were Flames Hazes instead..."
The intention of this non sensible question is...

- I bet he dies...

- Dai Pinch!!

Are they going to finish the flashback?

...

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for Episode 9 preview summary:

Milestone of Sadness

In New York, where the scent of the previous great battle still lingered, Margery was at the Empire State Building.
Her opponent was the "Sentetsu no Hora (Cave of Placed Penetration?) Anna Berg.
But the flame bullets she shoots from the burning blue toga she wears does not seem to hit Anna Berg at all.
At that moment, hooked claws rip apart the blue toga.
It was Sydonay's sneak attack.
In this absolute crisis, the amateur flame haze, Chisei no Hikite (Pulling Hand of Mountain Forces?), Yuri comes running in......

Margery was talking about her past.
But in the middle, she stops and throws a question at Satou and Tanaka.
"If you guys were Flames Hazes instead..."
The intention of this non sensible question is...

- I bet he dies...

- Dai Pinch!!

Are they going to finish the flashback?

...

yes, they're going to finish the flashback.

think the titles are somewhere along the lines of "The manmade cave" Anna Berg and "driver of the mountain spirits' force" Yuri

[stormy001_M1A2]

For some reason, the boy reminds me of Indiana Jones. But yeah, this is my favourite episode since it talks about Margery, ,my top favourite character of the story.

Spoiler for Hmmm:

for some reason, they decided to pop in 2 Flame Hazes. I wonder how many of these entities walking around. The Red Indian bartender seems to be an interesting fellow.

But the cycle is complete, now Yuji can face the first Rinne he seen in Season 1. Impressive.

[FlareKnight]

Well a pretty good episode. Anyone hoping for a fight will get some satisfaction. Yuji steps things up in his training with taking on quite the familiar looking Rinne. Guess it was a good way to see how he would handle himself against an opponent he'd really rather be nowhere near.

Do wonder who or what this Pheles character is. Got Wilhelmina on a trip pretty darn quickly. But guess considering the lack of anything going on she can afford to head out and leave things to Shana. Hopefully we get some information on that one.

Nice to get some of Margery's past. This Yuri kid really is a unique one. Instead of being driven by hate it's more of wanting to make up for the people he couldn't help. Caring a lot about humans and helping them rather than simply the balance. A sense of justice that pretty much has everyone seeing him as unqualified. Maybe this is a message for Satou that it isn't hte path for him. Since while he wants to get stronger to help and fight he's not being driven by that hatred of the Tomogara.

At any rate should be a good episode next week. Got a solid feeling our Yuri friend isn't going to make it though.

[ZODDGUTS]

Finally a good episode close to the level of the first season, I wasn't impress with the previous 7 episodes in this season. Hopefully the series will take off now. *crosses fingers*

[zqube]

Self-sacrifice would seem a fitting end to Yuri.

[Anh_Minh]

This episode bored me, except for the part with naked Margery.

When did she start wearing glasses, I wonder?

[beamknight87]

man, they could have skipped the Shakugan Days (5 freaking episodes) to get to this or better yet, start the season with this ep. Awesome in my opinion

[kimchipride]

Yay for subs! They were a little faster this time... Waiting a week for ep 7 was ridiculous but understandable. Thanks subbers!!!

[Mizuno]

Satou(?) was showing all kinds of signs of jealousy towards Yuji's training. Did they not notice he was inside the Fuzetsu?

[alvinkhorfire]

What is blue toga?

Great skills by Wilhelmina. Her ribbons can be used to create an entity. Cool!

Why did Sydonay work as part time as a bodyguard-for-hire? Since he is a Trinity, I feel that working for other tomogara belittles his status.

Satou is not driven by hatred of the Tomogara, but this case applies to Shana as well. I believe that Satou pretty much awares of the danger he may face and yet he still wants to be a Flame Haze. Is there any other reason that Satou should not be a Flame Haze?

And, I think that there is a low possibility that Marjorie will train Satou and Tanaka. Can both of them join in Yuji's training?

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Kenta

Satou(?) was showing all kinds of signs of jealousy towards Yuji's training. Did they not notice he was inside the Fuzetsu?

Can't really blame him for feeling envious. Yuji is making some progress and is getting a lot stronger. Heck he is going to start learning how to make a fuzetsu soon and get working on unrestricted spells.

Don't think they knew he was there. While he had the handy tool for being able to move within one they were probably more focused on themselves than looking for a normal human walking around in there.

True that Shana didn’t have any strong feelings about the Tomogara. But she had a pretty unique background from most people. I don’t think him joining the training of Yuji will make a difference. Right now he is simply a normal human. Either he becomes a flame haze or he can’t really help out all that much.

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by alvinkhorfire

Why did Sydonay work as part time as a bodyguard-for-hire? Since he is a Trinity, I feel that working for other tomogara belittles his status.

Sydonay has probably a double agenda, and we don't know what he gains with this job.
Also, note that he already did that in S1, protecting the Aizen Twins and te cradle garden hougu.

And, I think that there is a low possibility that Marjorie will train Satou and Tanaka. Can both of them join in Yuji's training?

Considering Eita's situation with Matake, it is obvious he won't try to become a flame haze.
As for Keisaku, it will depend how he will react after margery's tale.

[lua thien]

Curious question: Why is it that the Crimson Lords are always referred as Kings of the Guze, regardless of their gender? Isn't there any sort of differentiation such as calling the females Queens of the Guze or something of that sort?

It was something from Season 1 during a flashback in earlier years when Shana was training to be a Flame Haze and Wilhelmina introduced Tiamat, referring to her as a King of the Guze.

Seems like the Flame Hazes are too consumed in their anger that they become more predictable to their enemies.

[Terrestrial Dream]

Good episode, finally we get to see more Margery's past. To be honest I know almost nothing about her, and well finally it seems that we will get to know more about her.