2012-01-25, 14:26 | Link #1 | ||
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The social group subscribtion and social group discussion subscribtion feature is nearly invisible in your profile; it's basically bellow even Forum subscribtions and you have to be looking really hard to find it or find if it's updated. But lets say you have no problem of updates since you check it every day manually or something absolutely crazy like that.How usable is a social group for discussing things? Problems
At the moment we rely on purely private messages. It's awkward but not nearly as awkward as social groups and at the very least, it works. My issue with what you said though is that in the past when the problems with using social groups was brouth up you've said social groups are NOT for discussion and so on and that's why they are intentionally horrible (and why you've intentionally set them to be horrible and unusable). And yet now you come and say they are the alternative to having a discussion. Really? They most definetly still aren't even remotely usable for even a few people discussing things! The only thing you can do with them is post images and maybe 1-liners; not discussing anything. So which is it?
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2012-01-25, 15:49 | Link #3 | |
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Yes, there are areas where the Social Groups can be seen as inferior to the forum proper, but then again the forum proper is the main attraction, with social groups being the side dish. That is not to say we are out to deliberately cripple or inconvenience people who wish to use them, but neither do we want them to become a full replacement for the main discussion threads, thus it stands to reason they wouldn't garner our prime attention. What we do present them as, is an alternative for some off-the-thread discussion, and evidently there are people who have made it work, but they are not meant as a point-for-point replacement for the main discussion threads themselves.
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2012-01-25, 15:56 | Link #4 | |
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In my own experience (which is albeit a limited one in this area) for Social Groups to really "work" it takes a handful of very dedicated members to keep the ball rolling therein.
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2012-01-25, 17:28 | Link #5 | ||
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So what the moderating staff means when they say "If fans would like to create a safe-haven, they may use the Social Groups feature of this website." is that hosting such a pace isn't the forum's priority and it should be relegated to the "side dish" that are social groups? Quote:
I'm not even interested in such "safe heavens" myself.I just feel like a statement such as the one I quoted is quite a contradiction.
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2012-01-25, 17:28 | Link #6 | ||
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I've changed the options to enable quote, list, and a bunch of other BB code options now. I've also increased the post size to match what we normally use for posts. I don't know that we can do anything easily about the placement of the "next page" links, but we can see how that looks once we migrate to vBulletin 4 and if further changes are needed at that point. I looked through the remaining options and they seem to make sense, but if there's something that is needed to make Social Groups more usable, we're all for it -- with the disclaimer, as Skyfall mentioned, that the forums proper will always be our primary focus. Quote:
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2012-01-25, 17:31 | Link #7 | |
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Thank you very much for this!
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2012-01-25, 22:08 | Link #9 |
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My thanks to Relentlessflame as well.
Much of my issue with Social Groups were the exact same as the one's specified by felix on this thread: I just found that they had a very unfriendly format even for a subsection of an internet community. With good functionality changes to that format, Social Groups will hopefully provide just the sort of thing that I think felix and I would like for them to provide.
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2012-02-11, 14:53 | Link #11 |
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I don't think there's a quote button next to posts, but you can use the quote tag in the text of your comment, like [quote]whatever[/quote]. So you can indicate that you're quoting a previous post/poster without having to come up with some other way of doing it.
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2012-02-18, 12:12 | Link #13 | |
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2012-08-25, 23:46 | Link #14 |
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I hope it's not wrong to necro this thread, but apparently there is a bug with the member listing of social groups.
Case in point: http://forums.animesuki.com/group.ph...rs&groupid=765 Only the first page comes up, without any page navigation. Since it only appears to affect one group, one might suspect the sheer number of members might be the cause.
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